HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 04-27-1971 SpecialMINUTES OF A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
PL GNOUTH, MINNESOTA
APRIL 27, 1911
A speccLal meeting to hold public, hearings was called to order by Mayor Hilda at
7:3. eO.M. on April 27, 1971 in the Beacon Heights Elementary School.
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PREMir: Mayor Hilda, Councilmen Spaeth and Hunt, Acting Manager Barnei, Engineer
Wdrud, consultant Engineer Bonestroo and Attorney Drawz.
ABSZN,T: Councilmen Hintz and Johnson
Pastor J. Harley Thompson of the Messiah United Methodist Church gave the
invocation. 0
j M-tyor Hilde introduced members of the Council and staff. He told the citizens
no project decisions will be made tonight. The projects will be tauten up on
May Sth for discussion and decision.
PROJECT 068-2,E - Storm Sewer in South Parkers LAI Area was the first public
hearing scheduled. Mayor Hilda explained the age, a and purpose of the public
hearing. Engineer Rudrud gave a complete descript on of the project, its'
cost and projected slides of the area !a question' ith a map designating the
iniAtallatibn routes of the A-1 and A-2 districts. Acting Manager Barnes ex- XmC.,, 4,411,
6`r r a. ) plal.nad the villcge assessment policy. ,
Mayor Hilde stated that lie no longer have a policy whereby 602 of the project
is assessed and 10% paid for by the village. It is now totallF, assessed.
The: --e is no available subsidy money available for the project. He also des-
cribed the difficulties of storm sewer proposals. Public hearing opened at
8:00 P.M.
Mrs. Robert (Tarleton, 550 Renchview Lane, asked if they would be re -assessed.
Mpyor Hilda told her it is possible to be re-asse66ed a number of times over
A period of ,years for storm sewer benefits and he explained what the circum-
stances are. She wondered if it is needed.
Mr. Floyd Olson, 710 Niagara, asked if the group cbjects, will the project still
go through and if you develop this project will the storm sewer in front of our
house now be enlarged? We have r%:ceptacles in our house that take care of the
runoff from our house and several houses around us - will we have oa be included
in this project? I can see nu benefit. Councilman Hunt and Havoc Hilda ex-
plained the circumstances of the previous storm sewer and that the village no
longer pays part of the assessment. A-1 and A-2 areas were described.
Mr. Myron Christopherson, 350 Quantico Lane, said the two areas outlined in red
on the map mere voted out before and the arta in black wns voted in. He also
pointed out the areas that paid. So - he said they are being assessed for the
pipe that was voted out and it is not fair.
Mayor Hilde told him if something alas wrong it will be corrected. We wish to
start with s, good plan and get Sour comments. Councilman Hunt explained the
previo%ia installation and said the assessment, cost is now reversed.
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Two heat;ings are held, one for the project itself then anothenr one if
the project is ordered which is the atssessnent hearing. The final cost
is divided up at that time. Tonight t -ye arc. dealing with coat estimz:^_st
The final day oC repkotttttg will coria omptima ll.ater following the major
partirn of the construction. After contracts .ire take -n and hids awarded
And costs astnt lisped anti tic knot,, chat the cast will. be, the lioaring i
schodul.ed to he held anti you will he notified to cone and voice your
optni.ons about the atsse smont -And inprovetnont. A publication 1:111 he
N,ria,de in the official paper anti an official notice will he sent to you at
y0ttir rer:idoiice in .accordance vlth. State law, which is your address on
your tax bill rrcnMetl on Lite County Auclitor's tax rolls. Yott still. have
31 days to pay the assessment without interest. Thernalter interest trill
lie Oiarred from the date of the hearing, at the rate of interest prescribed
by the Couttc•tl at: the heaa:ing. All prepayments sh,-%uld hn mado ort or
before 1Znvcw!ier first of every year if you wtsh to avoid paying intur.est
fnt- Lite year• following. Aovamlaer first of every year, that's raquirce by
State laal'i and wo lis va nn 1•ipt.al phimr to adjust this process. If you
would Like to nccunnttnte your atssessmrr-t yott can let thom Fa for iivc
yonris and pay than to the villaite in full nt that time. Also, esrnhlished
by State Laic, is tit: matingaging hold this evening by offic:iaa.l noti a ±n L!te
pts.per .and noti.r.on sent to proocro owners, sn you will. havet. net oppo:. t,untty
to voice+ your op.ini.nn: Tha se have been met -ind the h aticas of hearlllps
are . it filth.
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Two heat;ings are held, one for the project itself then anothenr one if
the project is ordered which is the atssessnent hearing. The final cost
is divided up at that time. Tonight t -ye arc. dealing with coat estimz:^_st
The final day oC repkotttttg will coria omptima ll.ater following the major
partirn of the construction. After contracts .ire take -n and hids awarded
And costs astnt lisped anti tic knot,, chat the cast will. be, the lioaring i
schodul.ed to he held anti you will he notified to cone and voice your
optni.ons about the atsse smont -And inprovetnont. A publication 1:111 he
N,ria,de in the official paper anti an official notice will he sent to you at
y0ttir rer:idoiice in .accordance vlth. State law, which is your address on
your tax bill rrcnMetl on Lite County Auclitor's tax rolls. Yott still. have
31 days to pay the assessment without interest. Thernalter interest trill
lie Oiarred from the date of the hearing, at the rate of interest prescribed
by the Couttc•tl at: the heaa:ing. All prepayments sh,-%uld hn mado ort or
before 1Znvcw!ier first of every year if you wtsh to avoid paying intur.est
fnt- Lite year• following. Aovamlaer first of every year, that's raquirce by
State laal'i and wo lis va nn 1•ipt.al phimr to adjust this process. If you
would Like to nccunnttnte your atssessmrr-t yott can let thom Fa for iivc
yonris and pay than to the villaite in full nt that time. Also, esrnhlished
by State Laic, is tit: matingaging hold this evening by offic:iaa.l noti a ±n L!te
pts.per .and noti.r.on sent to proocro owners, sn you will. havet. net oppo:. t,untty
to voice+ your op.ini.nn: Tha se have been met -ind the h aticas of hearlllps
are . it filth.
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Mr. Willard Budnick. 5205 3rdlAve. N.., wondered if thif- includes a low i:po
south of Ird and Quant+ ^,w ' aa4 )Orchid Lane, where: there is a problem, Engineer
Bonestroo said it does net. '
Mr. Ra, Johnson., 325Iiiagara, asked where the it ad line on the -'map goes.: It ,
was pointed out.'to Kim by Mayor Hilde.
Hr. Kenneth Strom, 330 Quantico, asked if there were homes in there then.
Would, they recognize the need or reject it? Councilman Hunt said it was not
part cf the original improvement, He asked if they will pay the same aasess-
ment that people on Quantico paid? Councilman Hunt said year $265.
Mr. Roger Tausch, 715 Ranchvi:ew, asked to have the western boundary traced
which Engineer Rudrud did. ,
Mr. Toss Bred ford, 815 Ti rrace View, asked if they are in the ilrea and 45720•'
27th Ave. Engineer Rudrud said,they would not have received a-lattsr•if they
we re n' t .
Air. Riehard Cox, representing Premium Service Vorp., 12715 Highway A5.5, said
he s1.as curious abou.- boundary policy. The people I represent are or the out-
sl:.r:s and the at% -.a mai- change. Does this represent the changes that., may
o cur ,cater on? Engineer Rudrud said it may change. If we find some area
should be dropped off, it may not be included. .
Mrs. Miles F. Bakken, 504 Circle Drive, asked if Circle Drive is the same as
Lanewonll She was told it is. She asked if it is right that 6 years ago it
was voted down? Are Quantico and Ranchview the only ones considered ntst?
How will you. aecidel Mayor Hilde said .yes, they are constdered And a decision
will. be made next week.
Mr. Wilbur, 15225 County Road 015, said he owns two houses in the SW corner.
1 ask already raying atom sewer assessments or which I derived do benefits
fron,that 5 vr,irs ago. Now there are more assessments proposed. Drainage is
dammed. The it. Tinter said rhe drainege dtsr rlct is arrived at by the natural
drainage flow r: the ar•%a and boundary is based on the report contour. Mat.
Wilbur ;eked If he dcn+.ad that County Rnad 1115 is dammed and there is no
culvert, ;just the raosessment. Engineer "11drud said the natural drainage goes
that way.
Mayor llilde said as cenuneiurs aro made we will look at them thoroughly.
Glenn Swanson, 820 Lanewnod, Wanted to know what the nature -of th. problem is.
I thought the other project served up. Engineer Rudrud said T can :,how this
by slides. Mayor Hilde sold he was out in some back wards and the %•Iter was
deep and there was sa had problom. Tteople 'indicated they want to set it dried up.
Mrs Run Webber, 505 Lataomtood, snid the only peuale t know of are the rata who
are talking about it. Who decided this? Is it the Council? Mryer O Lde pato
tLe Councill fipurtks out a wsy to eolve Oie. problem. Do you matt, qtr. Welber
us,tt, w as not wont it And you will pub. it 10 Mayer 11ilde ianid he di.l not
say t1hn:. aria! 4,cipreated his explanntich.
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Anet.her cit ;den sat,d it wris done several ;dears ago. I think with a load or
two of itiAvel put in and the riystQm cleaned it will be taken care of.
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Mr. Willard Budnick. 5205 3rdlAve. N.., wondered if thif- includes a low i:po
south of Ird and Quant+ ^,w ' aa4 )Orchid Lane, where: there is a problem, Engineer
Bonestroo said it does net. '
Mr. Ra, Johnson., 325Iiiagara, asked where the it ad line on the -'map goes.: It ,
was pointed out.'to Kim by Mayor Hilde.
Hr. Kenneth Strom, 330 Quantico, asked if there were homes in there then.
Would, they recognize the need or reject it? Councilman Hunt said it was not
part cf the original improvement, He asked if they will pay the same aasess-
ment that people on Quantico paid? Councilman Hunt said year $265.
Mr. Roger Tausch, 715 Ranchvi:ew, asked to have the western boundary traced
which Engineer Rudrud did. ,
Mr. Toss Bred ford, 815 Ti rrace View, asked if they are in the ilrea and 45720•'
27th Ave. Engineer Rudrud said,they would not have received a-lattsr•if they
we re n' t .
Air. Riehard Cox, representing Premium Service Vorp., 12715 Highway A5.5, said
he s1.as curious abou.- boundary policy. The people I represent are or the out-
sl:.r:s and the at% -.a mai- change. Does this represent the changes that., may
o cur ,cater on? Engineer Rudrud said it may change. If we find some area
should be dropped off, it may not be included. .
Mrs. Miles F. Bakken, 504 Circle Drive, asked if Circle Drive is the same as
Lanewonll She was told it is. She asked if it is right that 6 years ago it
was voted down? Are Quantico and Ranchview the only ones considered ntst?
How will you. aecidel Mayor Hilde said .yes, they are constdered And a decision
will. be made next week.
Mr. Wilbur, 15225 County Road 015, said he owns two houses in the SW corner.
1 ask already raying atom sewer assessments or which I derived do benefits
fron,that 5 vr,irs ago. Now there are more assessments proposed. Drainage is
dammed. The it. Tinter said rhe drainege dtsr rlct is arrived at by the natural
drainage flow r: the ar•%a and boundary is based on the report contour. Mat.
Wilbur ;eked If he dcn+.ad that County Rnad 1115 is dammed and there is no
culvert, ;just the raosessment. Engineer "11drud said the natural drainage goes
that way.
Mayor llilde said as cenuneiurs aro made we will look at them thoroughly.
Glenn Swanson, 820 Lanewnod, Wanted to know what the nature -of th. problem is.
I thought the other project served up. Engineer Rudrud said T can :,how this
by slides. Mayor Hilde sold he was out in some back wards and the %•Iter was
deep and there was sa had problom. Tteople 'indicated they want to set it dried up.
Mrs Run Webber, 505 Lataomtood, snid the only peuale t know of are the rata who
are talking about it. Who decided this? Is it the Council? Mryer O Lde pato
tLe Councill fipurtks out a wsy to eolve Oie. problem. Do you matt, qtr. Welber
us,tt, w as not wont it And you will pub. it 10 Mayer 11ilde ianid he di.l not
say t1hn:. aria! 4,cipreated his explanntich.
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Anet.her cit ;den sat,d it wris done several ;dears ago. I think with a load or
two of itiAvel put in and the riystQm cleaned it will be taken care of.
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Another citizen F.aid it was only a few years ago you put in a storm sewer. I
paid $120 for it on Niagara and 9th - only one, would take wator.
Roger Matte, 925 Minnesota Lane, said all this water draining to the storm sewer
is going througis -y back yard. Nov will it be buried and I be assessed again?
Engineer Rudrud va;d it is not proposed for your area. That is in Area 3.
Mr. Strom, 330 Quan tco Lane, said you mentioned safety, some of them are so
large that children lay in them - bars should be ptlt over them. Engineer.
Rudrud said Ire will te.:k this out.
Another citizLn saf.i 1 would like to ,live with that tiame atom sewer. After
putting it in al', it d A wap to put the water east - 1 have had a good deal of
my property under water the last few years.
Mayor Hilda asked where the people are who asked for thwe
Mrs. Williams, 14510 County Road 015, said I wound be in th,, -%ast area and have
an acre lot. Will I have a $700 or $800 assessment? My 3 rat apse goes along #15.
Since sewer came in the water goes across the road. !-layot llilde said iL appears
you may not even be in the area. She said she was told eho was included at the
village hall when site went there. Engineer Rudrud said it is hard to say if ycu
are or not. Mayor llilde said it is nossibl.e you are right on thm line. We hdve
not figured out what the assessment per acre will be.
mr. Clyde Best, 810 Shenandoah, said I have been interested in the comments. I
would be interested as to how many are in favor and how .eany are opposed. Mayor
llilde explained why this kind of decision ;.hould not be lamed tin a show of hands.
Mr. G. T. Barnard, 630 Lonewood, asked if there 'it drainat-e through to Circle
Park. Mayor Hilda said it is not t.. storm sewer, just an oienlog in the ground.
Engineer Rudrud said when we showed the slidem there may have lieen a misulider-
utanding of the area, next spring wp will take glides when thet;4 to water
backing up. qtr. Barnard mentioned the village owning Circle Pork .end the assess-
ment was discussed. Mr. Barnard said we do not need the imp ouemenz at all.
Mr. Fieri Midge, 314 Itarbor Lane, t live on the corner and wouAd say ,huut 1,482
of the low arqa slopes to the south and goes over to the reserve. Mayor llilde
said this was not in the project. Public hearing closed. May,tr Ulde said •are
will evaluate and decide in a week.
The following projects were tales up next: Project Com-n,r - Watair Main on
Cottonwood Lane; Project #71-1,11 -- Sewer Water & Stroat Restarat,on for Magnolia
and Kidgemount Avenue; Project 071-0,A Wnter Main in the 5outheatt Area,
Mayor Hilde aM d it was decided to combine all three pv,ajecta. ht.gineer Rudrud
told the citizens theme projector were selected out ae o nutrher of projects to
he considered becaline they appearett to he of most caatcctii. Ile projected slides
and a map of the AMA than the projo:tr raver and rt+vio-ood the peeliminary re-
ports anti coat estimates. Acting Hanagoar Barnan told t? -a citiadns that another
public hearing will be held later ou this projects to he inotalled for the neseaa•-
Ment roll, He expinined the villagt, policy on and payment of same.
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A woman said that no one has requsstbd the'Southeast water. project. \Wti would
like to know if it was from potential builders, like the hospital. Wri do not
think it it right to be assessed for them. 4ngineer, Rudrud said there ha4t been
several breakdowns and most requests have been made, verbally. She w'ss not f r
t1ie improvement.
Another citizen said hv'wanted water and hopds it is considered fur Ranehview Lane.
Mr. Olson;i on Ridgemovnt Avenue, said I just hooked up to a new, well last Thursday. \\
There is no problem with vater and do not need it or, sewer. i,em past retirement
age and will have to sell if `' t is put in.
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qtr. Donald Orr, 420 Orchid Lane,'said we brought in a petition with 100 nam is:
My well is out now and'it looks like we reed sewer.
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A citizen said the ct st for my 10 acre property and the total acreage owned by
4 residents on the SW corner total 22 acres will amount to about $60,000, mine
will be $260800. Mayor Hi1A4 acid this Ila one of the difficulties of these
situations. The Treasurer indicates wee have a policy wherein the first 330'
are assessed and the balance deferredfor years or upon sale of the property
whichever occurrs first. The zitisen satLE seems thnt anyone who wants to
maintaitt,a green field pasture can't do i, anymore.
Mr. Roger Richrars, 55 N. Magnolia, com
cost which appears to be out of line.
u the very high assessment
Another citizen said, tay problem is that pay house is new. The Engineer told
me this type of project will not come for15 years, most likely 10 years or pro -
bah ly never because Magnolia Lane is low. Ne did mention hooking up to Minnetonka
though. So on lite leeommendation we put In a sever system that will last for Many
years beyond the time I will be 4,n thnre +end an oxpenpive well. I suggest the
Council vote "no" for this project.
Mr. Fritz Otten, 11915 County Road 015, said I rut in a now well for $1,000,
That is cheaper than the t ervive you put in.
Mr. Dave Zimmer, 15610 3rd Ave. N., said estimates for we11N run from $900 to
1250.
Mr. Bartram, Ridgemount Avenue, said by the time you take my 314 acre lot it
will be roughly, $1450 and at today's interest, rate it will be 'doubled and added
to the hook-up charge it looks like it will he $2800. Most walls are consider-
ably leas than that. There ate mostly n*W hisses along Ridgewunt. I have been
in there 15 years with no problem. Unless there is a health hazard or i1 peti-
tion from more titan 502 of the people for it, - it should not be put in. I have
had enough of assessments. I doubt there in that much need for wader. It is
high priced.
Mr. Frank Chapman, 11207 Ridgemount, asked are you planning to go on Ridgemount
from County Road 073 to halsam 1.6no? I wonder what I will do with water when I
Am rtill wafting for newer.
Mr. Dave Ames, 12311 County Road 015$ said my concern is the addition of sewer
coming down Magnolia. I An hooked up to sever on Cty. Rd. 1715, Lat-2, UlocL 40
I am eharaed for that now." Why eon I char; -ed for Pdgrolia? The answer t got was
thn't I m6y, in the future, divide my land, that's presumptioust
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Mrs. Bi0iii said all of our homes were built the last .1% years, we have n4 need.
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Mr. Cuyle Wille, 25,Teakvood, epid there are several of us and I am probl'bly not
too typical., butt we have quite. al hit c: clay and have lived there for 5 y+ears.
Water is poor and we cannot_ dr n;: it. P10 majority of us hers need it avid now,
is the time to, do it.
Mr. Norm Trudeeu, 314 peerwood, rsked if this water comes from the Jordan vein.
Engtneei Bonestroo ssi& it does. %Mr. Trudeau asked if ,there is goiaA to tie a
road restoration so we can ask for a change on Deer+ood and Ridgemount/on'width
2 cars canngt drive there. Mayor Hilde suggested he get to sther with the
others and ,laequest this of the Village Manager. /
Mr. Tom Bradford, 813 Terrace View, said we are in the SW pati O tfis district
and tha tk that village for their concern. have 4" wells, good wAtor. 14 hood
owners reque4t to be deleted from the project and he handed th Kat yor a petition.
Mr. Lloyd Olson, 710 Niagara, asked how soon do we have') to hook `tip? Ha' was told
it is 2h yeat's on sewer and 2 years oc ester finless a satisfactory test In sub -
witted each y'lear on the condition of their well., Mr; Olson said soar people want
it even if they hsve good wells and,vill not hook up,.just want it to sell their,
property. Yo showed us a few dirt -'roads, most of ua'bought because it was on a
hard top road,; are are going to be assessed for road improvements in areas where
It is now a dirt road? He was told it will be handled separately.
Mr. Bruce Plowman, 440 orchid Lane, seid he has no trouble, but others have had
some. The conotruction industry increases will increase the astimAtes.
Mayor Hilde said the benefit of the water, otehr than the people who need it, is
due to the fire h4drants. The Firs Underwriters t4cogniee this as a benefit in
terms of fire flehting. The village receivnd deer`pased fire rates uherever water
has rams in. VAe water goes in it must be paid fi?r even though you do not hook
up to i%. Thos+1 ;he do get that cost plus the hookup cost. In th•,Southwest
project many petiole ca4e in from small pockets and `,indicated they did noo want it
aad ha explained) what happened when they asked to bi in shortly after.
Mr. Virgil Marpie, 35 Teakwood, said I have no trouble with my well, bot r,,try
couple years my neighbors do and I would like it to go in.
Mr. Ole Loing, 810 N. Ithaca, said last time o4a put sewer in I had ? lots. The
and was on a gta'vel rola and one was on a dirt road. The gravel one got bltiekm
top, I will go thong wit%% gravel if it IS improved. I would like to sea a
4ommitment oto the compactio._of the back fill and gave his reasons vhy. He had
no ob, action to the improvemew-,,
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tlfta. Brinkman, 15200 9th Ave., askod if she will Pet water on 9th Avenue i' she
needs it vary muc'i. Couneilm:n Spaeth said she would be included.
mr. Roger Rausch, 715 Itanehview, said out walls are new and the taxes are high
enough. Now much will the water service Bost? These Ctgures wore Riven to him
by Acting ;tanoNer Barnes,
Mfr. William Snyder, 405 Pineview, seld I can see the advantage if Water for f!• -e
drotection, my bell may go out sometime. But, I ve9te (bout a year ago asking
what can be done about it and was told there wera no plans for this area. I; have
been thane for b Wnthe and am +igainst it.
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Mr. Donald Kolb,, 15420 Codnty Rocd,f15. said he purchrd_ed his home 14 years agb.'
My water was ,tested and is okay.
A \aroman eaid even with city, water you, need a water softener, so you do not save '
money.
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Mr. Curtis `Carlson, 331 Xi ni e,t said I moved in 6 months ago imd had my well
checked for.. is GI loan -,It a;td I was told there were, no plans in ttia'
future for this. What is the water quality? What do you promise us for'city
water? You %entioge'd construction costs going up - in my >usinese I delay what
should be done if construction will add to the costs of what they are bid ht.
Ip there anything being done to.avoid this? You said it will cost $25 perj
quaff r - what dill it be in a couple Years. reduced or,, increased? i
Engineer Bonestroo said the water is from the Jordan vein, the bast in the `rorldo
15 grains hardness, iron is a little over,6/10ths, many are over 201. The ard-
ness is below standard. Mayor Hilda said iron content is the biggest probli!
with wells, it is minimal in the city water. In terms of the contract we 94,i bids
and take the lowbid and he explained that we usually and up with total coot!
being lass unless something unegntte4 happenev like digging,aeeper. Our ra ads
are a, little lower but not Minneapolis "o' are having a rat.i study, inf lei tin
and Growth have a bearing on it.
Mr. Jack Ye, 85 Kingsview, asked if full use 365 days a year 10 expected. En 1,
inaer Bonestroo said we Are contemplating another well. Mayor Hilda said we ,Uet
authorized a water study. We foal there will be no pteablem for a year or two.
Engineer Bonestroo said we supply chlorination andflouridation. We do permit
people to continue the use of their wells for sprinkling but city water for
drinking.
Mr. Loing asked. do the people who develop apartments Fay the dams as we do?
Acting Manager Barnes explained that itam to him.
A citizen on Kingsview Lane said if the improvement adds vi, the value I would bi
in favor of the Water. Councilman Hunt said there are more available buyers if/
it is in and in many cases it will sell faster.
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Mr. Roger Richters, 558 Magnolia Lane, asked what they will do to our taxes?
He felt if the houses are increased in value the taxes will too. A discussion
ensued on this between him and Mayor Hilda.
Mr. Christopherson said my well to :ine and I still like the water.
Mrs. Don Norris said, I want the water.
Mr. T. R. Blakeborough, 425 zinnia, asked what does R-0 mean and how will this
land be assessed? This Was explained to him.
Ar. Clyde Best, 810 Shenandoah, wondered what it would cost to have crater hooked
up. This was explained by Fred ferry.
Mr. Goodwin Youngquist, 405C Orchid Lana, was in favor of the improvement, ka
complained that lie has heard nothing further about someone shooting into hie
kitchen six months ergo. this will be checked out he was told.
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Mr. Plowman asked if it isn't true that c*war and water oust be separated? 1h!',
normal installation depends on pipes and elevations said 8ngineer Rudrud.
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Mr, Les R4.9kob, 14816 County Road 06. u4nts the ifater - needs it.
Mt. Louis Kail. 305 Deerwood, asketti`, if th'i blac `top will be torn up and how
we will know it is to be 'run on }hu pailti side. Mayor Hilde said normally it '
is put' on the east' side and the 'alack c+-p, will be torn up. r
Mr. Richard Cox asked if the project is rrdared.,can we consider the -timing and
planning and what the grading plane ar«,bf the County Road /15 area. There will
be quite a bit of construction on tie Cty. Rd. i15 intersection. Engineer
Bonestroo said we could ask the County to,givs us their prltminary plan and on
the ramps planned for construction.
Mr. Plowman asked if it isn't true that c*war and water oust be separated? 1h!',
normal installation depends on pipes and elevations said 8ngineer Rudrud.
Jim Connor. 625 Harbor Lane. said I am opposed', none of my neighbora,have'bad wells.-
Mr. Bannister said you talk about insurantt rates going down but they have gone up
40X. You said Plymouth is 4th from the bottom as far as taxes are-'and'I'do not
care about t at. When do you think it may start and be completed?, Eigineer
Rudrud said it will be finished in 1971 for, construction if decidedlo.
Mr. Chris Gustafson, 435 Orchid, baid we had a storm sewer come in S.-yeare ago
I hope it' is not the same one again. Mayor llilde said, not unless' we- order it._,
Mr. Lyle Worley, 720 Lanewood. said you h&44 a slide of 2 pine trees-'Ple\ase
watch those trees if you conn on the north side.
A citizen asked what happens to the trees you do take? Mayor Hilda explatneJ
this'to him.
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Mr. Schons, 515 Kingsview asked if the water goes in on the East side how doe's
It get to the West? Engineer Bonestroo told him it is jacked under.
Mr. Mike Watkins, 315 Magnblia Lane, said we have water lines in with our sewsr.,i
Do we have to have another hole or can it be used? Fred irry said the limes
will have to be inspected.
A citizen on Magnolia Lane said he is in favor of the aever, but against the
water - so are his neighbors. Mayor Hilda said if an area is going to have
mower it is a shams not to put water pipes in too.
Mr. Gerald Schulz, 12720 Cty. Rd. 015, said we were told 3 years ago we put in
sewer, why couldn't we have water - I Ate in favor.
Mr. Carlson said how deep does the pipe have tc be put in? Can we dig our own
trench? Yes, said Fred perry, but it muet be inspected.
Mr. Boettcher, 11616 Ridgemount, said if this in divided into 2 projects will
the cost be increased? Engineer Bonottroo said it depends on what you leave off,
continuity is better for more competitive bidding.
A man said it will be the thitJ, time they put the road in and I Abject. It was
a poor job. curb was put iti too. qty driveway was never replaced and is lower than
the road, water stands there, Mayor Hilda said another person remarked about the
finish work. That was the lowest cost project in history ft no exttiit money was
spent for restoration. This will be a high ctass finishing job.
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Jim Connor. 625 Harbor Lane. said I am opposed', none of my neighbora,have'bad wells.-
Mr. Bannister said you talk about insurantt rates going down but they have gone up
40X. You said Plymouth is 4th from the bottom as far as taxes are-'and'I'do not
care about t at. When do you think it may start and be completed?, Eigineer
Rudrud said it will be finished in 1971 for, construction if decidedlo.
Mr. Chris Gustafson, 435 Orchid, baid we had a storm sewer come in S.-yeare ago
I hope it' is not the same one again. Mayor llilde said, not unless' we- order it._,
Mr. Lyle Worley, 720 Lanewood. said you h&44 a slide of 2 pine trees-'Ple\ase
watch those trees if you conn on the north side.
A citizen asked what happens to the trees you do take? Mayor Hilda explatneJ
this'to him.
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Mr. Schons, 515 Kingsview asked if the water goes in on the East side how doe's
It get to the West? Engineer Bonestroo told him it is jacked under.
Mr. Mike Watkins, 315 Magnblia Lane, said we have water lines in with our sewsr.,i
Do we have to have another hole or can it be used? Fred irry said the limes
will have to be inspected.
A citizen on Magnolia Lane said he is in favor of the aever, but against the
water - so are his neighbors. Mayor Hilda said if an area is going to have
mower it is a shams not to put water pipes in too.
Mr. Gerald Schulz, 12720 Cty. Rd. 015, said we were told 3 years ago we put in
sewer, why couldn't we have water - I Ate in favor.
Mr. Carlson said how deep does the pipe have tc be put in? Can we dig our own
trench? Yes, said Fred perry, but it muet be inspected.
Mr. Boettcher, 11616 Ridgemount, said if this in divided into 2 projects will
the cost be increased? Engineer Bonottroo said it depends on what you leave off,
continuity is better for more competitive bidding.
A man said it will be the thitJ, time they put the road in and I Abject. It was
a poor job. curb was put iti too. qty driveway was never replaced and is lower than
the road, water stands there, Mayor Hilda said another person remarked about the
finish work. That was the lowest cost project in history ft no exttiit money was
spent for restoration. This will be a high ctass finishing job.
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Mr. Jim,,Wake aaked if it is possible to put Mie to a vote. Maior Hilda ea-,
z plained why they'are against that type of representation. The public hearing.;
closed at 11:00'P.M. Meeting adjourned.
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