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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 04-20-1971 Speciall O NInT"FS OF A SPECIAL 4YRNC1L MM., I NTr PLY 'f a KIW* ESOTA APRIL 240 197 A. special meeting of the Plymouth Village Council wan called to order by Mayor Hilda at 7:40 P.W: ` PWM: Mayor Hilde, Councilmen Spaeth. andilints Acting `tanager Barnes, E:nginaer Rudrud, Consultant E;hglneer soneatroo and Attorney Imus. ABSENT: Councilman Hunt, due to illness: Councilman ]ohreon, out of town. PL"RE.IC FIE/IRI;ZI S vayor tilde advised 00 citisenn that no action would be taken on the projects being heare' tonight due to the lack of a quorum to attandarem Project i69-9,8 Holly Lane Improvement was taken up and reviewed by E:nytinser Rudrud usiii Protected elides. The four *Iternate Improvement propoWn and costs for same were explained. r Acting Manager Barnes de *,cribed the assessment polictea which will. he said, 44 0 it4r1 *r be determined by the Council and a public hearing he;d. Publie hearing opened at 7:5S P.!V.. tr. William Dental. 4540 *tally Lane, quoxttoned Alternate 02. (RttuRdnourt Overlay) and aske % base is included, hew it will he paid for and if there will be an ditch ..cainage, it ren, t,)w ®ugh and will there h, 2" grovel or nntbing. Eastneoir Rudrud said it utll hasically he put over the h3av ituw there. here'sacouple; W areas caused by the underneath soil not having flood drainage and the drainage of those "ad avitAv will only he dune. Fir, Doxiel asked We: mAnv Years does he feel this %:III hold up. l wars horup, somehow we coup ln- valve the village and possiPly have Rose gravel put an so it will stay in place for as number of vears. aver llildo maid the villape hoe no funds that it can spend for that type of hrostrae+a. The road does not Qualify for state aid and we a re not spending state aid money at present even for those that do eusltfr. It is a rmtter of deprre . %tr. (lArle:l asked why thov don't get any benefit from their tax money. where daes it s 3 Mayor 11t1de explained where tits tAx dollars go and vhy. Mar. rvittel ar!alited If Alternate A waA accepted will the vt1laRe sealcoat. Fngtneer Wrud aaid they nrniart-+sgessr"ent does not Include gWcoatinp, t -at softer utilities are put in, we gealcoat. r. ;:ail Wteliterimnn. 4011 Poll• Gene, asked if Alternate 01 (Jural Section) w*auld he a ""tot road. Vviptnear blonest• ao said it is a S -ton ultinntot %lrb 11[chtermann at044 if Alternate. $ wac, E) ba t nnsturhle in the iipr.ing. t:np,inear RmOrutl aatd his thinks it rwWA too, hwit the more the Improvement to, the htRho r the bond will b+e. 'Ir. Vichterman maid he rhes not aeo how the angtnser could come up with Alternsto #2 without a base underneath. It will only tai a out A few mud sluito and really t>e washing monov. Me arse mnrfo intorested tri Jugt i,ontro; and ho wondiered if thero was any chance of tho htmc top ening up to 0e emlk course to lwhwt the prtve. '!:Aver 11t1do a.iiJ thtg to a protF%Y gralt ytrfitch AR it t, w a I Rxiahn A ASSESS. iEVS A;: Rini EM S Tua, haarinra are hold, arse for the project 3taolf then smother ants if the pxe.Jiact i5 orer-nett which is the a%so%rkmt he•arin; . Tht• fir I cr+st In dlvivtod up at thot tir+e. Tonifikt: sse are rlla volts cant rottt~_ttr.a. Tito figal day of teckontar tstl: corse ;m,tttzw later follwitir. the majar portion of the cm-tructIm. After contr rPtt Pro. ral-en and 'bit's astartte•d And costm Ptt'ctl ghi%tl and tyt, P.nmr that tNO '04C will hc*, the twarinp tit Relteett led to he 'te+ld atIO you O1, 7 be not.Vieu to cwia..ane! vi ter your etpitaton:r ttitaut Ol .11 -IF! Eti;rrOver.mr. A puhlication 16111 be rtnde in thv off'.t 40 p.•tiwer atulb an, o(fIcUiI ttotico rill tea scent to '•ou .at yatir renid i nto in arvo r0anre r •i ;,h State l at?, Oti eh is y0ttr-,3,,h1rV n as your tax bill rt cnrtted an they Ummtm t.x rolls.. You rill 1mve 31) days to poo thr v,l thout int%e r :t. Thr rraf ter interest v911 be cte tt't•e:E Eros t",e et.+tc at tlw hc;irtor, nt tht rate eat intereRt preRcrlt ed vy the t:ounctl At t1w, boarlug' . All rhould t O rade on or he.'ore ;+oren:ser first of every year it you ttlmh to s vold r.t;•inf luterott for the year fek"Im inp. ftr t of every ytlar, tbat'g roqutred t+y Etw lite• And tv hare.. no% lt`gnl teeroikr to 4101wit this provenn, 7( ynit VoOkI l.tt:e to cte•eu,,:.ttl,ate yrur you Van lest there Pr for five vearn And pay ttwn to ttL% vtll)rr In full At tKit Alf.n, rlttrMinhad ty Stats•. lnve JA the tthnettnp held thlr: evollint; hu Of ficival "ot tre to tete paper stud not lr.a ee+nt to Are;wtv w% yom totl t have an opportunity to vaiee• Your opinion. Thom% Itaw two tvt c-Und tltt% ntLttCc`ti twt• Ite arinpq rte on f.110. 0 r I Rxiahn A ASSESS. iEVS A;: Rini EM S Tua, haarinra are hold, arse for the project 3taolf then smother ants if the pxe.Jiact i5 orer-nett which is the a%so%rkmt he•arin; . Tht• fir I cr+st In dlvivtod up at thot tir+e. Tonifikt: sse are rlla volts cant rottt~_ttr.a. Tito figal day of teckontar tstl: corse ;m,tttzw later follwitir. the majar portion of the cm-tructIm. After contr rPtt Pro. ral-en and 'bit's astartte•d And costm Ptt'ctl ghi%tl and tyt, P.nmr that tNO '04C will hc*, the twarinp tit Relteett led to he 'te+ld atIO you O1, 7 be not.Vieu to cwia..ane! vi ter your etpitaton:r ttitaut Ol .11 -IF! Eti;rrOver.mr. A puhlication 16111 be rtnde in thv off'.t 40 p.•tiwer atulb an, o(fIcUiI ttotico rill tea scent to '•ou .at yatir renid i nto in arvo r0anre r •i ;,h State l at?, Oti eh is y0ttr-,3,,h1rV n as your tax bill rt cnrtted an they Ummtm t.x rolls.. You rill 1mve 31) days to poo thr v,l thout int%e r :t. Thr rraf ter interest v911 be cte tt't•e:E Eros t",e et.+tc at tlw hc;irtor, nt tht rate eat intereRt preRcrlt ed vy the t:ounctl At t1w, boarlug' . All rhould t O rade on or he.'ore ;+oren:ser first of every year it you ttlmh to s vold r.t;•inf luterott for the year fek"Im inp. ftr t of every ytlar, tbat'g roqutred t+y Etw lite• And tv hare.. no% lt`gnl teeroikr to 4101wit this provenn, 7( ynit VoOkI l.tt:e to cte•eu,,:.ttl,ate yrur you Van lest there Pr for five vearn And pay ttwn to ttL% vtll)rr In full At tKit Alf.n, rlttrMinhad ty Stats•. lnve JA the tthnettnp held thlr: evollint; hu Of ficival "ot tre to tete paper stud not lr.a ee+nt to Are;wtv w% yom totl t have an opportunity to vaiee• Your opinion. Thom% Itaw two tvt c-Und tltt% ntLttCc`ti twt• Ite arinpq rte on f.110. 0 7 a P434 '. 011/?l Special 'v**tInjt r. l:erorgea 0421a14 466"t 111411Y Longo said ta.`4'e:ir concom t,ac Port for the dust. 116 rou hor the root, the alo ,*r t4* cars oust goo r. Bob Slodell of the Soo Line. reprcetentinit Irt 4tste land Co*. said tt eo feel .kltesrnate *1 gill resat benefit thetr property. Alternate 01 vauld ivatt taar It up. its go Alone with hl iernatc l l . r. Poter Schmidt, 4415 Holly Lanev saltk ve ra:slfre3 there tit a pro'.146A std if a dust control Is pus' an will it work* Irngtneetr "udrtW ,aid d seAlcast to awrely a duut cost. pra9dtna it and shontinp to vttit ail and. drpenMtiV on the service, quite often it :sots .for a wmath with a reasona!*le: anoun.t of tr-fltc on it.. W:th truck r-efftc it gill not got through th,et `trst spring, Per 'v possibly with truck traffic and pole!` course traffic Must will shoo WithinVrIXsix week*,. "•r, Scheidt said we vent through this in 1167 and it deftnlrulk did nat ladst. S©. - if it is upgraded to a norm! road, gest rid of t1* rl.ud titles. ditch for dratna?v. which cause* the probl.or+, and with ia '" "t. Vill It lasC A to S ve-..OrT? ropiraeaer Rudrud saint it would r asonahiv %e, i to S gars,, 4 pendlnp or ver trattfic. °Iayor 111de+ said you can only r, iless hav tanit A M t will last `-',err w -au do not i.eetxw tht lase anti 04t to underne4th, r, WilltaP 'Nxtol Ankerd tvhen there Is it wnnd on tho road, hav der vett deteervine tampe or whose paoh'4em it It.. do you v,%rch eevorvone" nr - do yov, autamat ical tv sa .v the man who pomted a bond is re sponsPolea t+e cAuse h# has a bondl 1nriinoowr NOW said Ne:t4 t'iehte+rseantt asked the same thinr-, .slso vhv n0etra do no jt have ttr harder a %4 0nd too. tire wq%we thnsea with he.tvv loads etro r*,np.tjW%1G. `,ttornov t•S"3Ra! :tt *s `\.+-Fri.t v+:w t++1 e-nrr !enti l+atd [+s+a v tMAt the vi k1- Are Wuld a xprct thaat there +otic p•,-cr, bonds, etre respont 1ble. V- Itchard 1'Clte l of Vv °Evt-/.- 'ale, Vol f Course. 04ff Holly Lane, Aatu he thte ki 1UkOurF tame to brt.kan ".1, a% hart at Folly Lane 4 -id we nddra t:ho this lrocld he assciisea1 atttatfnat. Atl thar throuph traffic te. -,CvA"VJnp to tt.tnk ttivulr, %Iavor E1t1de said k'ickshurp Lane i;A "InP to he+ a oft, 4tj,jor nc tro"t f1e. anki we May use Mate aid (Ir It Aoi)nleta 5/3/71 h om-tloac% 5p.)c.th toad p'r, VI c te rr ann if vnu a:%nt tk% poit a -.. - t! re+t 'pet vicke d up b4' t n ; c t ir,? t`:At a vrur poral active, on the- other hi -It , co aru', a I P runntn n cllinee of gottUm rtckeJ up - evev"'Pae !4h. nuld er vWv ?-v ?.t v;nr Ride sett ;,nilthtkr Noartnpr vi ll e NOW ken the 4114-rsAmelt. erg. 4'Cove 1'nurvte vi -W 411 vi-; t:ant 'tc 1vt Is 4itist Cram, l onci fir-%va tt dlna iovsery wo 'louse it tt art:Nib alit f tno laiit vear, t'.w R"wO d vo 1,o.lt'. tN C111. l p", C4t t i E'ttojlwfpr "wArtod ;it1 tel ;MI ti'r1 w,,t Ail anti 'A? viould %4 v.1weis, I''wn oolol ti% ian tr+ rt ut rtflnr INNN , luiiv Ote stroot t etll not "o gr--k%pd to a f to 1; p4ilklo, tt will 1.1;C P to 1 e Ct1E -)%tt. r. vll k% t V%A%I spolA nitrtl, 10,144ttnc, I;kly n a' i \oe.trq t vii t't'I to V', a.• kir liblwt o of t Irto Lt P:3v Ko.como A 4'i`alttN-°, 'ill Pty vctr-il out tv t aat ttr p, W -ion %silt t`w ratlro.W, a.v§ von-4 oit ,'ti; , r 1ti t+ ft i11 ii,` SiNrVC4 'fit;' t " s- '6 (AltNCa arP d r F'.tillf.6F`lii 't+1Nr t "11 1 t(d':l;i ; , tt tt I'1 -t nmt kf I !,v1 tvitIv. llo%110 novel. k avo t10 bye r.v ill Y t - V i 1 i Page 3, 4/20/71, Special Meeting It will cost about $42QA to jack underneath for existin sewer. It will, not 1havetobetornoutandyoucansayinSyearsitwill,cost a little more to, . to a permanent road. Mr. hez,iel said we have large pio-ces of property and it will be difficult to pay fc it at this time, we should wait until -there Is a higher concentration of;bucinesses wholneed ,a. ro%d. Public hearing closed at 8:2; PX. "favor Pilde said, we will do Baur !gest to make the best decision to benefit the total area wtf:hin 4) or 3 weeks or sooner and infcrm- you of, it., 1 . Project 163-10-r 34th #%4enae and Nenium Lane Water, Sewer and Street Improve- ment Pro;ject including concrete curb and gutter fas taken .N ne ct.'.ayor Nilde advised the citizens that this it ohs of a n%mber\of proj'ects that the Council has taken into consideration fotir this year. Yany others al,e not,being con- sideree. 'Engineer Fudrud reviewed the project, it's' past history, action taken end ylides of the area idete projected. Acting Manager Barnes explaii ed that' there e; ll be a public hearing on the assessments and he explained what the assepsmpant police is. Public hearing opened at 8:55 t+.. Ray D. Johnson, 13120 34th Ave. N., questi.onFd the possibility of having. another alternare to merely upgrade 34th Avenue. "ost of the res+dents feel that wny,. , it is adeQuate now, no dust problem, practically no broken up areas and t,c ifi deadend, street. He vould personally be satisfied to have it tip - graded to its present condition. Engineer Rudrud said he knew of nothing that would mAke it impossible, the street will take ai few years to firm up after putting in ttA improvemenose, Ir. Jim Ines, 13125 34th Ave. N. said he ip not in favor of the sewer, as fie does not need, it, but I would like to see a hlncktopped road there, also a blacktop curb rather than concrete Aich would he shearer. N+ivor Hilde said it would be less money but the village ordinance says it should he concrete and we have found that bMcktopped o-:as had to have asphalt put ha::k, but we could decide to do that. Mr. William Pehrson, 3'h45 Neniaun Lane, naked if the ocreage charge is made on buildable property, part of his !end is swamp. favor, Tilde said !t is mads, on buildable property. `tr. Pehrson asked if enough pent4le want sewer and water. AIayov !tilde Pnid ave feel we have hnd considerable urgl tg from people who said they wanted it, but we do not really know until we talk about it. Mfr. Pehrson salthe only place \enium is bred is south of my house(where they nevelt did restore it after they put in the N:crthweaot Interceptor. Lt was brought up and talked about, but no one raid nnythihp about it. Fngin4ter nonestreo disputed that convent and said we extended 12' of material from \enium ,and replaced it with jyanular material which was the only prose that could hal driven on this spring. So - we have done a better job of bringing \enium Une back,. Tho only place Is where we put the newer In avid put material in. iUre it is had we would have to remove poet and muck nod give a report on WhAt it .rill cost Aud v.ry to Ret is done with municipal fun+ls. The remnit,der shoAd he d anci s Mr. Pel'.reon said he is opposed to the wat,tr and nawer, N! Anteregt on A114116 r 0 lot of Roney, at least for a poormak,, people should tnink flout that. I uo4a1d have to nave. Page 4, 4/20171 Soocial Meeting 1, fir. Jia ArWter. 1313D 34th' Avenue, said he called ?fa"r Hilde al'i discuss td the badiparts of Xenium for getting In aad, out of there. Aside £von this cc n- ' sideration it does not include Xenium, Lia a to the ,outh, we have' aske+i for reports ;with a variety r- 'of ways to imp,it. tt is it matteo_ 11 which segment do we d4i what to and`- wrhen. i Mr. Lou,Christianson, 1331n 340 .Wgnuri, said I ami . fair sewar'und water, but aa,,opposed to hevil3 the street upgtadrtd to the level steted )on the proposal. I have question abo,ivt charging $jd.50 for Xentum to resrere it to its' origina conditlool. If sower ani, eater goes = in ma --e traffic will be Rener: It 'ed on Xeniom"Lane anti it mighit be bad lit the spring. lr, bav 5arych, 3350- Xenttmk, Lane, said I ars nel thekfor or against, b,v./t as far as% upgr:ding en$um Lane there will bee problem withp peo+le by the freeway during r1 sh hours, frou `1IP. "favor ttilde said we sho-Ad not dwell o this nosy. It is a' cttligctor' street: ice. Sarych said that's whir T like It as i; is, grooked, muddy- ..^. a j ough r. Lartfiy Cox`, Haid you mentictneO dry Apws foi 'water. Mien will this be? Mayor H jlde saif4 veu alnost" got t t,l las ; A -ear. but we could not see spendlog the money. It could hi ppen next y -ear. !tr-. Cox asked how much of the road will they dig upjor watq:r. pi'pes'? Engineer Rudrud eatd about 15' to 16' Wide, depending on the Oateriall. in there. Mr. ('.ox 931C he is against the sewer. Ir. Loan Schtabe, 13425 34th Me, : J O a n j Page 5, 4/20/71 Special ljeeting' i Mr. Richard Svienton asked about the" houses north of/nth Avenue on !Censure Lane. Engtnetx Bonestroo said they were included, taut not the one on top of the hill. if `hey want it real bad they can be included by Change Order, said 3+ayor 1!i lde . Mrs,, C,et,'-4d Da 1, 3420'Xentam Lane, said they did not, think they were included and Engineer H 'nestroo said they were. t A neighbor to Unen Schiebe said he oris definitely for everything. The dust In... -terrible and he gets it from both ¢ides. , Mr. Schiebe ,said they do Aot get the traffic ;dpam the street (34th Ave.) like they do end,if tttiey do not put water in now, in two years it will double in price. Mr. and AMrs. *iatt ;Freund, 13300 34th Ave. Kh., said they were in favor of water and sever. Ue can always gar together about the blacktop. J lr Marlyn Ervasti, 131,,10 34th Ave. N. said if they rut In sewer, )let them put in,water too. Vhen I lived in Crystal it Ras assessed,& year later, do jou do that tool "U4yor 411de said wit are verb ibustness-1ike ,end ge': the money as soon as we can. Acting Managr)r Barnes told him if thit proje, c.t is done this year the, assesnnint will be made this year and, he ea:platn+:d the Village policy regardl.np payment of sane. Mr. Charles Hutchinson, 23215 31,th Ave; N,, t aid•we Just bought and am in favor of water and siewr, but 1 -hate to see the straet assessment, wish it could wait for a couple yeas but do not k)iew enough abq,u4. At. Payor Hilde said a decistoo cagmot he %Lade to>1,iht, h,,it you should consider that it is not absolutely necessary that the road be put it%. However, generally speaking, municipal sovernrnAsts tend tci want to see tt!e streets get paved as soon as the people can afforc it. The lopteal poirt is 0hen the pipes are put in, then you can put it the rkAad. lie )udget tightly aid do not budget much money for upkeep of roods and , *-not hnve. a fancy roaddepartment, ago we cannot do much work on roads and spend money equally for all the people. A gravRa, Aasnded 5/3/71 road requires more money to kelt peop)e happy than a bincktopped road, 90 wo, frequently wish to see thki roads- paved. I would like to asl; if we eaj put 3nja Ras line asked a citizen. Do you have any contract with thein, at le at a .dr}1,,line at this time,, Friginear &uctrod said It may be a possibility. "ayot; 41,1(le said they have their scheduler and we 'harle ours, Public hearing clokned at 9:3n P.!!. I, -i favcar numbereO', 11 and against emre a. Mottan was made by Councilman 111ntz, 'Socond by CqunfilTnn srnetj) to Adjourn, unan. noets vote. N J L'.. , " ltyor