HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 10-16-1969JOINT COUNCII. & PLANNING COZ01ISSION ML•ETINC
PLVtOUTH, ' 1N4ESOTA
OCTOBER 16, 1969
A joint meeting of the Plymouth Village Council and Planning Commission was
called to order at 7:45 P.M, in the villagehall on October 16, 1969.
PRESENT: :layor Hilde, Councilmen Hintz, Kinds^th, Planning Commission members
Ed Egan, Dale Pollock, Ron Prekker and Uarren Chapmaa. Also present:
Attorney Lefler, Planner Dahlgren, Acting Clerk Barnes, Park Commission
Chairman Tony Norris and Village Engineer Hagen.
MOTION was made by Councilman hintz, second by Councilman Kindseth to approve
the minutes of the September 29th Joint Council and Planning Commission meeting.
Motion carried 7 aye vote.
A continued discussion from Lhe meeting of September 29th took place concerning
Report #4 Plan Effecniation prepared by `tr. Howard Dahlgren of Kidwest Planners,
Mr. Dahlgren reported that the Ordinance on Page 1.0 covers a greater degree
of flexibility and discussed the recommended ordinance changes. Most
communities have adopted a modern ordinance giving more flexibility. Ile said
that inasmuch as the village staff now has profecsional help there is no reason
why this direction cannot be taken,
Page 13, Section 6, paragraph (13: Should includa, that the residential portion
has to be developed and commercial uses must get a Conditional Uae Permit to
be granted by Council. Councilman llintz questioned low the land set aside will
be controlled before the renie.ential area is developed,
Councilman Hintz inquired abrtit X13 on page 14 and said it might bring a conflict
of opinion. .Attorney Lefler said any building in excess of 30 feet is controlled
by how it fits in with the neighborhood,
Page 14, U4: To be eliminated. We do have architectural control.
A poll asking how many favored leaving paragraph #5 on page 14 essentially as
is resulted in a "no" vote.. Six were in favor of changing the last line of
this paragraph #5 to read 75% instead of. 50%. There was a discussion con-
cerning the third line specifying "burden shall be on the staff". It was
agreed that the burden should be on the developer to show where such o
community facility is to be located, Six favored splitting this paragraph
in two, with the second paragraph starting with the nein sentence at the and
of line 6. Attorney Lefler and Planner Dalilgren were directed to revise this
accordingly,
Pages 14 and 15, paragraph #0: Leave as is.
Palle 15, paragraph 07: Councilman Mintz asked that remcdtnl steps would be
taken is mentioned in next to thr. Inst line. Attorney Lefler stated it
could lie said that the village m, -Ay e\erciae remedial steps to perform such
maintenance that .is necessary and assess the landowner, Ruch ns weed cutting,
etc,
Commissioner Pollock read a rortion of Hinneapolis Suhdtvisinn Regulutidns
which lie suggested he included in paragraplis #7 and #8 on nage 1.5. A unantriauq
vote was received favor this sugp;estion .
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Paragraph /9, Pages 15 b 16: Councilman Hintz asked the Attorney to define
how to set the amount of the bond for a developer and suggested these Items
be spelled out so they do not get overlooked by the Commis,aions and ,staff.
Also, that a guide: line be established in the ordinance so they are taken
care of, like a check list. Attorney Lefler did not agree an having this
in the ordinance, but agreeA it was a good suggestion admin1vtratively and
could be established elsewhere. It was polled unanimously in favor of
paragraph 09.
10 on page 16: Mr. Dahlgren said the purpose of this section is to require
a higher standard of requirements. Mr. Lefler concurred with 1r. Dahlgre•t0s
statements. Six voted in favor of this section. Playor Htlde rem-',nded
Council and Planning Commission that the village is not obligate 'o place
anything on the agenda unless all required data has been furnishe...
Pages 16 h 17, Section 8: Approved as basic procedure.
Page 18, Section 9: Paragraph #1 should have the word "completed" before
word application in first line. Paragraph #3 should end on the 4th line
after the word representative.
First paragraph -)n page 7 is to be eliminated. Planner Dahlgren said
were should be same chance to allow stores to come to without having to
go to spot zoning. Attorney Lefler asked how a developer with,sereval
apartment complexes would get a parmit for a store when this paragraph
is deleted. Mr. Uah!_gren said it could be done under PUD.
Section 7, Pages 13, 1A 5 15 Reoidential Development: To be reworded by
Attorney Lefler and Ptavner UahlZren.
Page 20, Section 12, q2: To be eliminated.
Page 22, Paragraph 07: "Reasonable period of time" was questioned by
Mr. Egan. He feels this; scwld be spelled out in a development contract.
Council should specify what the completion date shall be.
Page 23, first paragraph: Planner Uahlgren said a map sho?ring the reserved
places for right-of-way and park dedication areas could be made and registered,
Then if anyone builds on this right-of-way it is protected.
Attorney Lefler was directed to prepare a revised ordinance for dedication
of park lands and eliminate the $75 per acre wording. Thi ordinance should
be changed to the lanRuage of the statute regarding park land dedication
and the equivalent amount in cash. S were in favor of the above. There
followed a discussion of the clause "equivalent amount in cash", of tet• which
it was decided unanimously that the attorney be directed to research this
subject and come back with a report and rescind the previous poll.
Page 24: The Transportation Plan is being resolved with a study. The
Planning Commission sent a report to Engineer Honestroo. Engineer 11agean
has yet to make 1wis review of the thoroughfare road plan.
Page 11, Mayor llilde said a special map and tickle file showing where, dedication
is required should be made up. Could be en overlay map, Planner Dahlgren said
these ars` Mown on the guide plan and the other areas mutit be obtained by
dedication. mayor llilde asked Tony Norris to discuss chis at their next Park
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Commission meeting and come back to council with thei:c recommendations. It
was also asked how can we put someone in charge of the lands we want dedicated.
Ed Egan said this should be put on the check list mentioned previously. Engineer
Hagen said this list could be used when receiving applications.
It was unanimously voted that Councilman Blatz check with Mr. Cavanaugh
regarding his property for sale on highway #51 west of the Cavauaugh Addition.
Council discussed at length the Harris Co. development proposed on their
property to the west of Interstate 0494 and north of State lighway 055. They
propose to build an office building with a cartain amount of wareliousing and
a service station. Service station use is not c:cvered in the addendum. This
would be covered by a Conditional Use Permit. It was mentioned that the
percentage of land use for office building and percentage for warehousing
In a development be stipulated.
A poll was taken for Conditional Uses asking how many favored adding Service
C2,- Stations. Only three were in favor. Ed Egar,1 said he has not looked at
this in accordance with our present zoning ordinance. Planner Dahlgren feels
hat vie first 8 items on the Addendum should prasrnt no problem, Mayor Ililde
asked Boni many favored classifying the A items under a 8-lA District. Only
two favored this. Ed Egan feels they should be lift as is but wants to checu
into it more thoroughly. 'Mayor 1111de said the Harris Company's concerti is
very crucial and when Mr. Egan could make a decision on this subject,. Mr.
Egan said this will be taken up at their October 2!'itb meeting. PIr. Dahlgren
said he will send out a new memorandum before October 29th.
Meeting adjourned at 11:35 P -Mo
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