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CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
June 3, 1988
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UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS.....
I. COUNCIL/STAFF STUDY MEETING -- Monday, June 61 5:30 p.m.
Council staff study dinner meeting in City Council conference room.
2. COUNCIL MEETING -- Monday, June 6, 7:30 p.m. Regular City Council
meeting in City �-ouncil chambers.
3. PLANNING COMMISSION -- Wednesday, June 8. The Planning Commission
Forum will begin at 7:15 p.m., with the regular Commission following
at 7:30 p.m. Agenda attached.(M-3)
4. PARK & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION -- Thursday, June 9. The Park
and Recreation Advisory Commission will meet in the City Council
Chambers. Agenda attached. Agenda attached. (M-4)
5. TOWN MEETING -- Monday, June 13, 7:00 p.m. Town Meeting in City
Council Chambers. A copy of the letter and agenda mailed to Area 2
residents is attached. (M-5)
6. CALENDARS -- Meeting calendars for June and July are attached.
M-6
FOR YOUR INFORMATION....
1. AMBER WOODS DRAINAGE PROBLEM -- Councilmember Vasiliou had an
inquiry from an Amber Woods resident regarding drainage problems at
a home located at 18400 - 31st Avenue North. Chet Harrison viewed
this problem with the homeowner, Mr. Thursten Zettel, on May 17.
Attached is a copy Chet's memo from that meeting. This home was
just one of the many in the Amber Woods Addition which will be
reviewed this summer in hopes of developing an overall solution to
the drainage problem within this plat. (I-1)
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447. TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION MEMORANDUM
June 3, 1988
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2. "MEET YOUR COUNCIL" BROCHURE -- Attached is the "Meet Your Council"
brochure. It has been revised to reflect suggestions from City
Councilmembers. Because the brochure will not be reprinted until
1990, Mayor Schneider suggested that Councilmembers confirm at the
June 6 meeting that their seating will remain the same until then.
Councilmember Zitur also brought up two items that the Council may
want to consider:
1) Including the telephone number for the after hours citizen
comment line.
2) Inclusion of Town Meeting information.
The Council should recognize that there may be budgetary implica-
tions associated with publicizing the customer comment line if it
"catches on."
Councilmember Zitur is concerned that the Council may elect to
consolidate or eliminate town meetings and that the desired option
should be reflected in the brochure. (I-2)
3. SHINGLE CREEK WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PLAN - We have received the
Shingle Creek Watershed Management Plan prepared by the Commission
and its consultants, Eugene A. Hickcock & Associates. This
Watershed Management Plan has been prepared as required by state
law. The City has 60 days to review this document and to make
comments upon it. I have asked Fred Moore to review the document
and prepare a written report to the City Council on its impact on
the City. Because Fred is a City representative on the Shingle
Creek Watershed Management Commission, I am confident there is no
significant conflict between the plan and any objectives of the
City.
4. CONSTRUCTION OF DETENTION POND FOR ARMSTRONG RIDGE -- Attached is a
memorandum from the City Engineer concerning the construction of a
detention pond at the south boundary of the Armstrong Ridge plat.
Mr. Kevin Behrends, 10715 - 35th Place No., has been in contact with
the City to state his concerns with the pond construction as it
Impacts the rear portion of his property. Mr. Behrends has
indicated he will be attending the June 20 Plymouth Forum to discuss
this matter with the Council. The pond, currently under construc-
tion, is expected to be completed within the next two weeks. (I-4)
5. CITY MANAGER'S PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES - 5/23/88 COUNCIL RATINGS --
Laurie Rauenhorst has prepared the attached results of the Council's
review of the performance objectives for the City Manager. (I-5)
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION MEMORANDUM
June 3, 1988
Page 3
6. MINUTES:
a. Plymouth Advisory Committee on Transit, May 25, 1988 (I -6a)
b. Planning Commission, May 25, 1988 (I -6b)
7. MEETING WITH BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES CONCERNING SARA TITLE III --
The Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act SARA was signed
into law October 17, 1986. Title III of this Act, the Emergency
Planning and Community Right -to -Know Act of 1986, has far-reaching
impacts on State and local governments, as well as numerous
facilities in Minnesota that store, manufacture, or process
extremely hazardous chemicals.
As a example, one of the requirements placed on local governments is
to submit by October 17, 1988, the plans which incorporate the Title
III requirements to Local Emergency Planning Committees.
Thereafter, these plans must be updated and exercised at least
annually.
Title III also requires those facilities to provide forms to Fire
Departments, indicating the chemicals manufactured, stored,
processed, and inventory reports. Management of this data can
become a major problem for fire departments with many facilities in
their jurisdiction.
Because of the impact of this legislation and the liability issues
accompanying the act, we believe that it is important for the City
to reach out to those businesses in our community that have already
reported and/or have established emergency plans for their
organization. For this reason, the Public Safety Department (Fire
In particular) will host a meeting on Wednesday, June 15 at 9:30
a.m. at the City Center for Plymouth businesses affected by SARA
Title III requirements. Attached is a copy of the letter inviting
business representatives to the meeting. (I-7)
8. MTC ARTICLE -- Frank Boyles received the attached article from
Hennepin ounty Commissioner Bud Robb. The article, "Some suburbs
think MTC takes them for a ride," appeared in the St. Paul Pioneer
Press on June 1. (I-8)
9. CORRESPONDENCE:
a. Letter from Kenyon D. Sandstad, Cimarron East HOA, concerning
the quality of landscaping undertaken at 14305 - 21st Avenue
North. A letter from Frank Boyles responding to Mr. Sandstad is
also attached. (I -9a)
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June 3, 1988
Page 4
b. Letter from Joseph Lund, 2705 Holly Lane responding to City
Manager's letter of May 18 on the City's 2 a.m. - 5 a.m. parking
ban ordinance. (I -9b)
c. Letter from State Senator Ramstad commenting on the Omnibus Tax
Bill. (I -9c)
d. Letter from William Haberman, 12030 - 28th Avenue North, to
Mayor Schneider, on various concerns with an adjacent property.
(I -9d)
e. Letter from Clinton Strehle, 1025 Evergreen Lane, to Eric Blank,
urging the development of public tennis courts in the Plymouth
City Center area. (I -9e)
f. Letter to Mark McCullough, from City Manager, acknowledging Mr.
McCullough's May 19 letter on the extension of Xenium Lane.
(I -9f)
g. Memorandum from Councilmember Zitur to City Manager regarding
his statement on community service officer position. (I -9g)
h. Letter of appreciation to Dick Carlquist, from Dave Drugg, Loss
Control Manager, North Star Risk Services, Inc., for his
participation in loss control workshops. (I -9h)
i. Letter from Dennis Zylla to Mayor Council providing follow-up
comments on the City's requirement to fire sprinkler the Pat
Goff townhouse project. (I -9i)
j. Letter to Mayor Schneider from Evelyn Woulfe, Bloomington City
Clerk, on the transfer of jury trials to the Government Center.
(I -9j)
James G. Willis
City Manager
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PLANNING, COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, Dune 8, 1985
WHERE: Plymouth City Center
3400 Plymouth Boule).ard
Plymouth, M!1 55447
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CONSENT AGENDA
All items listed with an asterisk (*) are considered to be routine by the Planninc `
Commission and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion o`
these items unless a Commissioner, citizen or petitioner so requests, in which event
the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in normal sequence on
the agenda.
nPFN FnR1IM 7:15. P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER 7:30 P.M.
2. ROLL CALL
3.* CONSENT .AGENDA
4.* APPROVAL OF MINUTES May 25, 1988
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Edward Johnston. Planned Unit Development Concept Plan, Preliminary Plan/
Plat, Conditional Use Permit and Variance for Deerwood Trail east of Balsam
Lane and 48th Avenue North (88016)
B. Northwood Gas Company /Koepps-Service Center. Conditional Use Permit for
installation of propane gas dispenser at 36th Avenue North and County Road
18. (88024)
C. Thomas Graham, Graham Development Company. Rezoning and Preliminary Plat for
Zachary Heights east of Zachary Lane and south of the Soo Line Railroad
(88042)
D. John DeVries. Rezoning and Preliminary Plat for Wild Wings 2nd Addition east
of Zachary Lane and south of the Soo Line Railroad (88046)
E. City of Plymouth. Rezoning of Schmidt's Gardens Subdivision to represent
property with municipal sewer service south of Highway 55 and Urbandale Court
(88061)
6. NEW BUSINESS
A. James O'Brien, Erin Properties. Site Plans for office/warehouse facilities at
at 12935 and 13005 16th Avenue North (88052/88053)
7. OLD BUSINESS
A. John Lavender, Caliber Development Corporation. Site Plan and Variances for
office/warehouse structures at 21st Ave. North, between Fernbrook and Niagara
Lanes (88038/88039)
8. OTHER BUSINESS
None
9. ADJOURNMENT 10:30 P.M.
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Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
June 9, 1988, 7:30 p.m.
AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Visitor Presentations
a. Athletic Associations.
b. Staff.
c. Others.
4. Report on Past Council Action
a. Accepted $5,000 Donation for Parkers Lake Peace Garden
b.
5. Unfinished Business
a. Request for Matching Funds - Greenwood/Oakwood PTA
b. 1989-93 CIP
c. Plymouth Creek Site Planning
d. Park Usage/Cost Study Report Discussion
e. Parkers Lake Update
f. St. Mary's Neighborhood Park Update
g. Community Center - General Discussion
h.
6. New Business
a.
b.
C.
7. Commission Presentation
8. Staff Communication
9. Adjournment
Next Community Center Meeting June 29
Next Regular PRAC Meeting July 14
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CITY O
PLYMOUTH+
Dear Plymouth Resident:
SUBJECT: TOWN MEETING, JUNE 13
Because Plvmouth is a developing community, there are many actions underway
or in the planning stage which could impact upon you. In order to maintain
open communication channels with residents of the community, I have sche-
duled a Town Meeting for Monday, June 13 for residents of your area. In
order to keep the meetings on an informal basis while dealing with specific
topics of interest to you, the Town Meeting will be for the area shown on
the map below including residents living north of Highway 55 around the
southerly portion of Medicine Lake north to 17th Avenue on the east and 26th
Avenue on the west.
The Town Meeting is scheduled to becin at 7:00 p.m. in the Plymouth City
Center. On the reverse side of this letter is a list of possible topics for
discussion at the Town Meetina. If vo..i have other matters of interest we
will seek to address these also.
I encourage you to join Councilmembers Sisk, Zitur, basiliou, Ricker and
myself at 7:00 p.m., Monday, June 13 at the Plvmouth City Center. We are
anxious to meet you and look forward to this opportunity to meeting
Informally to discuss matters of mutual interest. If you have any questions
about the Town Meeting, please feel free to call your City Clerk at
559-2800, ext. 204.
Sincerely, -
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TOWN MEETING AGENDA
AREA TWO
June 13, 1988
7:00 p.m.
I. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
A. 10th Avenue/frontage road improvements.
B. Xenium Lane connection to Northwest Boulevard
C. 1990 sewer C.I.P.
II. PARKS
A. Heritage Neighborhood Park
B. West Medicine Lake Park
C. Trails
III. DEVELOPMENT
A. Waterford Office Park and Plaza
B. Marcus Development - Plymouth Point
C. Northwest Business Campus
D. Prime West
IV. PUBLIC SAFETY
A. Police/Fire Report
B. Neighborhood Watch Program
C. Animal Control
V. OTHER ITEMS
A. Public Transportation Feedback - Plymouth Metrolink
B. Local Government Cable Access Channel 7
C. Recycling Program
D. Sprinkling Restrictions
E. The Property Tax Pie
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MEMO
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
DATE: May 18, 1988
TO: Fred G. Moore, Director of Public Works
FROM: Chester J. Harrison, Jr., City Engineer ____-
SUBJECT: MEETING WITH THURSTEN ZETTEL
18400 31ST AVENUE NORTH
RAINWATER DRAINAGE INTO THE INDIVIDUAL'S BASEMENT
We viewed the situation as based on where proper tiling around the
foundation needed correction which he has already done by placing small
diameter hose from the foundation wall to his draintile under his floor.
We then toured the outside of his building and looked at some of the
problems he has with his downspouts and drainage water getting away from
his home during heavy rains. His sump -pump only runs about 24 hours after
a heavy rain. There is poor drainage in his backyard and it appears that
either a small storm sewer can be installed, or a drainage swale
constructed. I stated to the resident that we will be having some people
come out this summer that we have hired to investigate the drainage
problem in this area and see if we can come up with a recommended
solution, either by designing a storm sewer to drain the area which would
be assessed to him or possibly digging a drainage channel that may be very
inexpensive to do and will not be much cost to the residents, if any.
CJH:kh
cc: Dan Campbell, Senior Engineering Technician
SOME DEFINITIONS
Issues at City Council
meetings are often discussed
in technical terms. The
following are some of the most
common:
Ordinance: The most formal
and binding type of council
legislation. It has the force
of law within Plymouth.
Resolution: A written
declaration of Council
position or action. It fa
less formai than an ordinance
and does not have the force of
low.
Motion: An informal verbal
resolution.
Rezoning: Change in zoning
Classification of a parcel of
land. Rezoning requires a
Public hearing before the
Planning Commission prior to
Council consideration.
Variance: A deviation from
the zoning or subdivision
standards. Variances are
usually granted only if unique
physical situations or unusual
hardships hamper compliance
with code standards.
Legal Non -Conforming Use: Any
Structure or use of land which
lawfully existed before the
tnaetMent of an ordinance
Prohibiting such use. This is
tften referred to on
'grandfathered."._
Conditional Use Permit: Land
use allowed in a specific
zoning classification but
requiring a permit. The
permit will only be issued
after a public hearing before
the Planning Commission and
after the City Council
approves it.
CITIZEN COMMISSIONS
Citizen
advisory commissions
are an integral pert 0!
Plymouth local government.
All commissions meet at the
City Center, 3400 Plymouth
Blvd. Meetings areopen to
the public. Please call to
confirm meeting dates and
times.
Park and Recreation Commission
(PRAC): Meets the second
Thursday of the month at 7:30
p.m.
Planning Commission: Meets
the second and fourth
Wednesday of the month at 7:30
P.M. Planning Commission
agendas ere shown on channel
37 prior to the meeting.
Board of Zoning Adjustments
and Appeals (BOZA): Meets the
second Tuesday of the month at
7:30 p.m.
Housing and Redevelopment
Authority (HRA): Meets the
third Thursday of each month
at 6:30 P.M.
If you are intetested in
jjterving on a commission, call
i&'19-2800 ext . soa
THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
The Plymouth City Council has
four Councilmembers elected
at -large and the Mayor.
Councilmembers serve
alternating four-year terms.
The Mayor is elected to a two-
year term. Elections are held
in November of odd -numbered
years.
Mayor Virgil Schneider
559-1111
Councilmember Lloyd Ricker
473-6416
Councilmember Jerry Sisk
473-0573
Councllmember Maria Vasiliou
473-2316
Councilmember Bob Zitur
559-3728
CITY STAFF —
You may reach city staff
members at 559-2600. Business
hours are 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.,
Monday through Friday.
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CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS
he City Council meets on the
Irst and third Mondays of
.ch month at 7:30 p.m. in the
Ity Council Chamber of the
lymouth City Center, 3400
lymouth Blvd. It also meets
or special meetings as
squired. All meetings are
ublic.
AGENDAS
gendas for meetings are on
he table in the beck of the
'ouncil Chamber. The agenda
fists items that will be
considered at the meeting.
CONSENT AGENDA
ill items marked with an
isterisk (al) will be
considered as part of the
"consent agenda." The consent
agenda is a time -saving device
used to act on routine,
administrative business. All
consent items and are approved
as a single item.
A Councilmember or member of
the audience may ask that an
item be removed from the
consent agenda and be reviewed
as part of the regular agenda.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
The City Council encourages
residents to voice their
opinions about items on the
agenda. To keep the meeting
running smoothly, please
follow these guidelines
whenever you speak before the
City Council:
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- Fill out a blue card and
give it to a Council or staff
member. This confirms your
desire to speak.
Public Hearings - The Mayor
Will ask for public comment
after city staff makes
presentations.
- After everyone who wants to
has spoken once, the Mayor
will ask if anyone has
additional comments. if no
one choses to speak, the Mayor
will close the hearing. After
this point, no more public
comment will be heard.
Items
On Items other than public
hearings, both proponents end
opponents are normally asked
to observe a time limit. Each
side is asked to make their
collective presentation in no
more than ten minutes.
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INFORMAL OPPORTUNITIES TO MEL.
WITH THE COUNCIL
Plymouth Forum: The City
Council holds an informal 30
minute meeting, the Plymouth
Forum, prior to the Council
meeting on the third Monday
each month. The Forum begin:
et 7 P.M. Residents need on:
show up to discuss any matter
with the Mayor and Council.
Town Meetings: Because
Plymouth is a developing
community, the Council holds
pollodic meetings with each
arae of the City. At the the
Town Meetings the City Counc:
and staff update residents
about developments in their
area. Residents also may
discuss concerns with the
Mayor and Council.
Invitations and agendas are
mailed to residents in the
Town Meeting area.
CABLE CHANNEL 37
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All City Council and Town
Meetings are cablecast live
channel 37. Meetings are
replayed on channel 37 at 7:-
Pin.on the following
Wednesday and at 5 P.M. on
the following Friday.
Meeting agendas are shown on
channel 37 the Friday,
Saturday and Sunday prior to
meeting.
DATE:
TO:
FROM:
SUBJECT:
MEMO
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
May 25, 1988
Fred G. Moore, Director of Public Works
Chester J. Harrison, Jr., City Engin
DETENTION BASIS FOR ARMSTRONG RIDGE ADJACENT TO ARMSTRONG SCHOOL
The City is presently constructing the required detention pond at the south
boundary of this plat as required. Last fall and this spring the residents
were notified of the fact that this drainage basin was going to be constructed
as required by the plat. A Mr. Kevin Behrends has called and stated he is
concerned about the way the drainage basin was constructed and is unhappy with
the fact that he lost a portion of his rear yard.
Mr: Dan Campbell has handled this project and has talked to the resident in
questions, has talked to all the residents including this one, concerning the
construction. He has made every effort to reduce the amount of impact on the
rear yards of all the properties by putting the slopes in at three to one
which is a mowable slope. The original plan called for sloping more of the
backyards.
I believe that every effort has been made to construct this channel to
minimize the impact on the abutting property owners, but it was required to be
constructed and is presently under construction. We expect to have this
project completed in the next two weeks.
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cc: Dan Campbell, Senior Engineering Technician
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE:
May 26, 1988
Vasiliou
Sisk
Zitur
Ricker
TO:
dames G. Willis, City Manager
16/20
10/20
23.75/25
20/20
FROM:
Laurie Rauenhorst, City Clerk,j—
II.
14/14
14/14
25/25
SUBJECT
CITY MANAGER'S PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES
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5/23/88
REVIEW
7/14
15/15
The following tables contain
the results
of the
City Manager
Performance
25/25
review conducted by the City
Council on
May 23,
1988.
The first table
7/7
indicates the weighted ratings
originally
assigned to each
of the six
9.8/9.8
performance areas by each of
the councilmembers.
15/20
The
second table
10/10
contains the number of points
awarded, followed
94/100
by the
number of
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possible points.
94/100
Maximum
Performance
Schneider Vasiliou
Sisk Zitur
Ricker
Average
Award
I. 20 20
25 20
15
20
$1,000
II. 14 10
25 15
20
16.8
840
III. 14 14
15 15
30
17.6
880
IV. 25 25
10 25
10
19
950
V. 7 7
15 5
15
9.4
470
VI. 20 20
10 20
10
17.2
860
$5,000
Schneider
Vasiliou
Sisk
Zitur
Ricker
Average
I.
16/20
10/20
23.75/25
20/20
14.25/15
16.8/20
II.
14/14
14/14
25/25
15/15
20/20
17.6/17.6
III.
14/14
7/14
15/15
15/15
30/30
16.2/17.6
IV.
25/25
25/25
10/10
25/25
10/10
19/19
V.
7/7
7/7
15/15
5/5
15/15
9.8/9.8
VI.
18/20
15/20
10/10
20/20
10/10
14.6/16
94/100
7FTM
98.75/1
TUUTM2.5/
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94/100
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MINUTES
PLYMOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON TRANSIT
MAY 25, 1985
PRESENT: Dennis Jacobson, Dale Knutson, Nancy Holter, Barbara Roberts,
Paul Buharin, Frank Boyles
I. APPROVAL OF APRIL 27, 1988 MINUTES
II.
The Committee approved the April 27, 1988 meeting minutes as submitted.
REVIEW OF APRIL RIDERSHIP STATISTICS
April ridership for the commuter/reverse commuter was 408 passengers per
day, continuing the downward trend in average daily commuter/reverse
commuter ridership. Despite the reduction, the year-to-date average
ridership for commuter/reverse commuter continues at 421, exceeding the
393 passenger target by 7%. The internal circulator continues weak at
34 passengers per day. The year-to-date internal circulator average is
16% below the target. On at total system basis, the average daily
ridership is 459 passengers which is 4.8% above the target of 438 riders
per day.
FOLLOW UP ITEMS FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS
A. Internal Circulator Route Revision Experime.it
Paul Buharin stated that it appears that the 90 day experiment
connecting the internal circulator to the Golden Valley Center would
run approximately $20 to $150. The connection would be once each
way in the evening and morning. These figures will be incorporated
in the 1988 budget figures to the Regional Transit Board.
B. West Medicine Lake Drive Route
PACT members indicated that the timing has been better on this
route since the last meeting and that no scheduling change is
needed.
IV. IDENTIFICATION OF NEW AREAS OF CONCERN OR RECOMMENDATION
PACT members advised that for the last two to three months the roller
signs on the minicoaches have not functioned properly. Consequently,
the word charter or other route names have been used in lieu of the
accurate route name. This has caused confusion both to existing and new
riders. Frank Boyles stated that one of the reasons for purchasing
these new vehicles was the roller sign. Frank will contact Medicine
Lake Lines to ask that this problem be given immediate attention.
PLYMOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON TRANSIT
MAY 25, 1988
Page two
V. PROMOTIONAL PLANS
A. Paul Buharin stated that the Pioneer Press will be available at the
Park and Ride lot for one day in August. He will check to see
whether or not the press would agree to provide this service one day
per week for a number of weeks, and whether or not delivery could be
arranged at the Park and Ride lot.
B. Frank Boyles stated that an article is scheduled promoting the
internal circulator in the upcoming Plymouth on Parade newsletter.
There was also discussion of having a free "student's day." The
possibility of a promotion through Independent School Districts 284,
281 and 279 was also discussed.
C. The continental breakfast/travel mug promotion conducted on May 23
was a success. Riders appreciated the thought and continue to use
the travel mugs.
The meeting adjourned at 7:52 p.m.
FB:kec
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MAY 25, 1988
The Regular Meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was
called to order at 7:D0 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: acting Chairman Plufka, Commissioners
Stulberg, Zylla, Marofsky and Tierney.
Commissioner Wire arrived at 7:30 p.m.
MEMBERS ABSENT Chairman Pauba
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Coordinator
Chuck Dillerud
Community Development Director
Blair Tremere
City Engineer Chet Harrison
Planning Secretary Tammy Ward
*MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner
Tierney to approve Lhe Minutes for May 11, 1988 as
submitted.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. Motion Carried.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Plufka introduced the request. Coordinator
Dillerud provided an overview of the May 17, 1988 staff
report. Coordinator Dillerud noted a response by the
petitioner regarding the inclusion of the Devac building as
an office.
Chairman Pauba opened the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired as to what area would be
rezoned to B-3 and questioned if this would include the
outlot. Coordinator Dillerud explained that it would show
as an extension of the MPUD zoning of the property located
next door and would not have distinct lines on the map.
Director Tremere stated that if the IP is changed to CL upon
Council approval, the ultimate underlying zoning for
purposes of the record will be B-3 where it indicates CS and
B-1 where it indicates CL. By virtue of the Planned Unit
Development plan, then the location of the uses would be
what the Council approves. He added that this would be
similar to the NW Business Campus.
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MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
RYAN CONSTRUCTION
CO. REZONING,
M.P.U.D. PRELIMINARY
PLAT, SITE PLAN AND
CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO AMEND
PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT
CONCEPT PLAN AND
UNDERTAKE WORK IN
FLOODWAY. (88033)
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May 25, 1988
Commissioner Marofsky noted that the Engineer's Report
indicated that the access road should be moved further to
the east (Phase I access be moved to the east to match the
proposed access to the Phase II). He inquired what this
would do with respect to the outlot. Engineer Harrison
indicated that this item has been addressed between staff
and the developer and is willing to accept the interim
design (access road) out onto the frontage road. The owner
will provide financial guarantees that the road can be
relocated to where the City selects, at the time the City
selects, based on the capacity of the intersection and
improvements needed to meet capacity needs.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired if there was an assurance as
to when the Devac outlot would be developed. Coordinator
Dillerud confirmed that there were no assurances, however,
the acquisition is proposed for late 1989. Commissioner
Marofsky inquired about ownership of the property.
Coordinator Dillerud advised that the petitioner did not
currently own the property, however, they did have a
purchase agreement with a time line for the possession.
Director Tremere added that the property owner has
authorized the approval of Ryan's plz.ns and this will hold,
from the City's prospective, unless the plans are amended.
Commissioner Zylla was concerned with the Devac site and
wanted to have some type of assurance that the approved
concept plan would be develope,.. Director Tremere advised
that the City has no control over the timing regarding the
non -conforming use, however, another party could not
redevelop the site without the City's prior scrutiny.
Chairman Plufka advised that the Commission's responsibility
was to make recommendations to the City Council with
stipulations, and the questions should be directed to the
petitioner.
Chairman Plufka introduced the petitioner, Alan Schackman,
of Ryan Construction. Mr. Schackman stated that the staff
had done an excellent Job summarizing the proposal, and
discussed the access issue and the Devac site issue. Mr.
Schackman responded to Commissioner Zylla's questions
regarding "high-tech" and advised that there would be
compliance with the guiding for office use at a future
time. He indicated that what Ryan proposes is an upgrade
from the existing conditions and that is what the City
Council was looking for. Mr. Schackman advised that Ryan
does not currently own the property, however, they intend to
have ownership by October 1989. Regarding access concerns,
he said Ryan can post the necessary financial guarantees.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired if there was a binding
agreement with the owners of the Devac site, or if there
were any contingencies regarding the sale of the property,
where either of the parties could back out. Mr. Schackman
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indicated that Ryan could not default on the agreement. He
added that the seller could deliver possession prior to
October 1989. This would be unlikely.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one
present to speak on this proposal. Chairman PlufKa closed
the Public Hearing.
Chairman Plufka confirmed with Mr. Schackman that the future
bank site would be platted as an outlot since the proposed
site has not been fully acquired.
Commissioner Zylla indicated that he was not opposed to the
concept; however, he did want to make sure that the City
gets what it is supposed to get and did not want to be left
with only part of a plan. He expressed his concern that
some type of assurance be set by the City Attorney that the
Devac site would indeed be changed to conform to the guiding
Director Tremere indicated that there are no absolute
guarantees and that this was a unique situation. He stated
that it was better to have the land included in a Planned
Unit Development Plan, with the existing building, than to
not have the land included. The site would still have a
building on it, with a non -conforming use. This proposal has
the best options with good intentions.
Mr. Schackman advised the Commission that Ryio takes pride
in what they develop, and they have never done any less than
what they were committed to do.
Commissioner Tierney inquired if the Devac site is used for
office, will there need to be a change in the parking
requirements. Mr. Schackman stated that any plan for the
outlot must stand on its own. Commissioner Tierney inquired
if the Conditional Use Permit was due to the encroachment on
the the floodplain and questioned if this would be an
encroachment regardless of the parking requirements. Mr.
Schackman advised that the Engineer's Study indicates that
the encroachment is minute and does not affect the flowage
of water.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired about the foot bridge having
no connection with the SO Groves site. He also mentioned the
soil in the back area was the worst available soil.
Mr. Schackman stated that the trail was designed to be a
foot trail, used by pedestrian traffic. He added that the
intent is to connect the system with the SJ Groves site
during Phase III of the development. Mr. Schackman also
Indicated that the impact on the Bassett Creek Flood plain
Is minimal. With regard to the soil, Mr. Schackman indicat-
ed that Ryan does not build on bad soil and measures would
be taken to improve the soil.
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May 25, 1988
Coordinator Dillerud noted that Item
Report needed to be modified to reflect
to modify the curb cuts and be
explanations.
24 of the Engineer's
the agreement status
consistent with the
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Motion by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner Zylla
to recommend approval of the preliminary plat/plan,
rezoning, Conditional Use Permit and Planned Unit MOTION TO APPRO!
Development subject to the 1st Condition being revised to be
in compliance with the City Engineer's Memo as amended and
Conditions 2-7 as stated.
Commissioner Wire moved to amend the main motion by adding a MOTION TO AMEND MAIC
Condition 8 to allow a parking variance if they have B-2 MOTION
uses, rather than the B-3 uses in the center.
No second, the motion fails. VOTE - MOTION FAILS
Motion by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Wire that a new Condition 8 shall show the Lot 1, Block 2
(.4 acres) as an outlot. Director Tremere inquired if the
reason was to assure packaging of the land to create a
buildable site. Commissioner Marofsky indicated the reason
was it is a non -buildable site at .4.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. Motion Carried.
Commissioner Zylla moved, seconded by Commissioner Marofsky
to amend the main motion by adding a Condition 9 that the
City Council gain assurance from the developer, now, that
the non -conforming use on the Devac property be eliminated
by a specific date so the proposed Planned Unit Development
Plan can be fully implemented.
Commissioner Marofsky clarified the motion for Commissioner
Tierney: this developer should be responsible for any
economic considerations regarding displacement of the Devac
plant and jobs.
Roll Call Vote. 3 Ayes. Commissioners Stulberg, Tierney and
Chairman Plufka Nays. Motion fails on the tie.
Discussion ensued; Commissioner said he disagreed with the
condition, but he understood the intent - to realize the
proposed use.
Commissioner Marofsky said the key issue is that Ryan is
creating the non -conforming use with their proposed zoning,
and they should be held accountable for implementing the
plans that were deemed a basis for changing the guiding and
zoning.
VOTE - MOTION CARRIE[
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION FAILS
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May 25, 1988
Motion by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Marofsky
for an amendment to restore Condition 8 as a new Condition
9.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request. The reading of the
May 16, 1988 Staff Report was waived. Chairman Plufka
introduced the petitioner's representative, Harold Voth,
Metropolitan Waste Control Commission, 350 Metro Square,
St. Paul, MN. Mr. Voth gave an overview of the project
along with a history of the site. Mr. Voth stated that the
lift station is currently at or near capacity. Mr. Voth
indicated two items on the staff report which did not
receive recommendations by staff. The first being the
setback between the roadway and the buildings, and the
second item was the variance for two principal buildings on
accomplished, however, they would be restricted on the west
side by the existing station. The new station would have to
be moved further to the east which would be further in the
floodway of Bassett Creek. The current proposal compresses
the facility and minimizes impact on Bassett Creek. Mr.
Voth indicated that the reason for the two structures is an
effort to coordinate the aesthetics with the adjacent
property owners.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that items 6,5 and 3 of the
variance findings were adequately addressed by the
petitioner. However, regarding item 4, he felt that no
physical hardships were indicated by the petitioner. Mr.
Voth concurred that there were no physical constraints or
ordinance standards they could show caused the need for a
variance.
Commissioner Wire asked if the redesign to one structure,
would be, from an engineering standpoint, a better design.
Mr. Voth indicated that both options were comparable, yet
there were some advantages. Commissioner Wire asked what
the cost would be to redesign the project. Mr. Voth stated
that he would estimate the cost to be approximately $30,000
and there would be a significant time delay if the project
was to be redesigned because they have proceeded to schedule
the work an to solicit bids based upon their plans.
Commissioner Wire inquired if the added cost would be
charged to the Citizens of Plymouth. Mr. Voth indicated
that the revenues from the seven county Metro area would be
assessed for the additional amount.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired if the proposed site would be
adequate to handle sewer use projections through the year
2030. Mr. Voth indicated that it would and the only change
that would need to be made is the pumps, which are internal,
and this would not change the building design.
TO AML t,
VOTE - MOTION CARRIF
METROPOLITAN WAST
CONTROL COMMISSIO
PRELIMINARY PLAT,
SITE PLAN,
CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT AND
VARIANCE TO CONSTRUC-1
A SANITARY LIFT
STATION AND TO ALLO%
CONSTUCTION WITHIN
THE FLOODWAY
(88033)
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May 25, 1988
Commissioner Tierney asked the petitioner if they were
content with the aesthetics. The petitioner indicated their
preference was for the single building, however, they were
content with the two building proposal.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There were no
speakers on behalf of this proposal and the Public Hearing
was closed.
Commissioner Wire asked why the adjoining property owners
were interested in the two building design. Mr. Voth
reiterated that the single building site would be two feet
above the roadway and the two building site plan would be
less visible.
Motion by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner Zylla
to approve the preliminary plan/plat, site plan, Conditional
Use Permit and variances subject to the six conditions
listed in the staff report.
Coordinator Dillerud noted that condition six had some
typing that should have been deleted and this would be
removed from condition six.
Roll Call Vote on approval. 4 Ayes. Commissioners Stulberg
and Marofsky, Nays. MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request. Coordinator
Dillerud provided an overview of the May 17, 1988 staff
report and pointed out the two basic issues addressed in the
staff report: Item 8 in the primary issues and analysis,
regarding the Thoroughfare Guide Plan and item 2 of the
staff comments,with regard to the conservation and
preservation of the natural environment. A Planned Unit
Development approach would seem appropriate except the size
of the parcel did not qualify.
Chairman Plufka introduced the petitioner, dim Orr, Schoell
& Madson, Inc., 10550 Wayzata Boulevard, Minnetonka, MN
55343. Mr. Orr indicated that the items in the staff
report had previously been addressed in concept, and there
now appeared to be a communication gap, possibly due to the
change in staff.
Chairman Plufka asked Mr. Orr to respond to the following
three items: 1) City's Code Standards on conservation and
preservation of natural environment, 2) street grade and, 3)
private driveway access to Sunset Trail. Mr. Orr indicated
that engineering staff had originally indicated a positive
recommendation for the 8% grade. He stated that the reason
for the grade was for the preservation of the trees. Mr.
Orr added that the reason they were interested in the site
was due to its topography and trees and they were oing to
preserve that land the best that they could. Mr. �rr also
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VOTE - MOTION CARRIE[
WOOD POINTI
DEVELOPMENT GROUP,
PRELIMINARY PLAT ANk'
FINAL PLAT (88O44 ;'
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May 25, 1988
indicated that he did not feel that the area was being over
developed. Mr. Orr disagreed with staff comments regarding
poor sight distance on lots 1,3 an 14.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing.
Dianne Camp, 11403 Sunset Trail, expressed concern for the
preservation of the natural ammenities. Ms. Camp was also
concerned about Sunset Trail, indicating that it was already
a very busy and dangerous street. Ms. Camp indicated that
it would be much safer if the road would access on 6th
Avenue, or perhaps on Sunset Trail, if it were lined up with
the existing intersection at Balsam Lane. Ms. Camp
indicated that it was a shame to put a house directly in
front of the existing house. She also added that the
configuration of Lot 2 was "absolutely ridiculous."
Phyllis Ransom, 11415 Sunset Trail, stated that Sunset Trail
is indeed a very busy and dangerous road. She stated it is
very hard to back out onto Sunset Trail. Ms. Ransom was
also concerned with the loss of trees due to the
development.
Regina Sjoquist, 11317 Sunset Trail, stated that she lives
directly across from the proposed Cottonwood Lane. Ms
Sjoquist indicated that with the proposed street access,
headlights would hit her windows, exhaust fumes would blow
towards her house, making it virtually impossible to live in
her home. She indicated that she has lived at this location
for 32 years. Ms. Sjoquist also expressed concern regarding
how busy and dangerous Sunset Trail is. She felt that
access from 6th Avenue would be a much better proposal. Ms
Sjoquist inquired as to when the construction would begin.
Mr. Orr indicated that 6th Avenue was in the 5 Year Capital
Improvement plan. He added that the timing was uncertain and
made 6th Avenue unfeasible, besides which, there would be
grading problems. Mr. Orr noted that the existing house
will not have a house built in front of it.
Mr. Robinson, 11203 Sunset Trail, expressed concern for the
grading. Mr. Robinson was also concerned with Lots 1 & 2.
He indicated that there is a nasty curve at Balsam Lane and
the proposed driveways would make the road even more
dangerous. Mr. Robinson stated that there were water pro-
blems in the area and inquired if this development would
only add to their current water problems. Mr. Orr explained
the design of Lots 1 & 2, indicating that Lot 1 would be a
walkout lot and would take a minimum amount of fill.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
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May 25, 1988
Marofsky inquired about the Thoroughfare Guide Plan and
where the connector street would come ii-. Engineer Harrison
explained the alternative contemplated for a north/south
road between 6th Avenue and Sunset Trail. He added that
access to 6th Avenue was not more feasible than the proposed
Sunset Trail.
Commissioner Wire inquired as to the City's standards
regarding curves. Engineer Harrison explained that the City
did not have any set standards, but in the past they have
used a minimum curve at a 300 foot radius. Engineer
Harrison indicated that they may look at moving Sunset
Trail to the north.
Director Tremere explained that, whereas 6th Avenue North
was in the 5 -year Capital Improvement Plan, the road could
be built as developed warranted. The Capital Improvement
Plan is the City's statement that, notwithstanding
development, the road will be done via public works project
means.
Commissioner Wire inquired about the possibility of reducing
the curve to make the access safer. He agreed with the
residents' concern about the intersection in the middle of
the block. Mr. Orr stated that they have considered Balsam
Lane, but this road would have grading problems. Other
alternatives were examined and were found to be
inappropriate.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired if lots 11 and 12 could have
a driveway that Lot 14 could use, possibly solving part of
the problem with the private driveways. Mr. Orr indicated
that they had proposed that idea, however, staff had pointed
out the ordinance standards for frontage and the potential
for public safety problems.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that there may be a public
safety issue. Director Tremere indicated that an emergency
could create a problem with the long private drives, in lieu
of actual access to the abutting public street.
Commissioner Zylla indicated that he does not see the 7%/8%
street grade as an issue. However, he is concerned with the
possible public safety issue. He added that the proposal
should be redesigned to a single access point or wait until
6th Avenue is completed. Commission Zylla stated that he
was sympathetic to the developer, however, supported the
denial because of the public safety issues.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired about exiting on 6th Avenue.
Engineer Harrison indicated that there was no preference,
but access to future 6th Avenue would be viewed as less
desireable than access onto Sunset Trail since it would
carry more through traffic. Commissioner Tierney inquired
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if the bend could be straightened for access onto Balsam
Lane. Chairman Plufka indicate that the redesign was not up
to the Commission or Staff.
Motion by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner
Tierney to recommend for denial of the preliminary plat,
deleting findings 1 and 2 from the staff recommended action
and renumbering finding 3 to be finding 1.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioners Stulberg and Plufka
Nay. MOTION carried.
Mr. Orr asked for clarification of the reasons for the
recommendation. Commissioner Wire indicated his reason was
the access problem. Commissioner Marofsky indicated that he
would like to see the private drives onto Sunset Trail
eliminated. Commissioner Tierney indicated she did not like
the number of driveways onto Sunset Trail and felt the
street in the middle of the development was discourteous to
the resident across the way. Commissioner Zylla cited his
previous concerns; access was the main one.
Chairman 11lufka introduced the request. The reading of the
May 17, 1988 Staff Report was waived. Chairman Plufka
introduced the petitioner Mr. Greg DeWeese.
Mr. Greg DeWeese, Little Caesars Pizza of MN, Inc., stated
tha. he had no comments and agreed with the staff report.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one
present to speak on the proposal and the Public Hearing was
closed.
Motion by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner
Stulberg to recommend approval subject to the 9 conditions
listed in the staff report.
Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka called for a five minute recess at 10:25.
The meeting resumed at 10:32 p.m.
NEW BUSINESS
Chairman Plufka introduced the request. The reading of the
May 16, 1988 Staff Report was waived. The petitioner was
not present; however, comments were heard from those
present.
Mr. Tom Lanenberg,15040 20th Avenue North, President of
Cimarron East, stated that there is a "large mess" from the
previous building that was constructed. He stated that the
grass is uncut, and the sod is dead. Mr. Lanenberg stated
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MOTION FOR DENIA
VOTE - MOTION T!
RECOMMEND DENIA
CARRIED
GREG
DEWEESE,
LITTLE CAESARS PIZZA
OF MN
INC.
CONDITIONAL
uSE-
PERMIT
(8804'
JOHN LAVENDER,
CALIBER DEVELOPMENT
CORP. SITE PLANS
AND VARIANCES
(88038/39)
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May 25, 1988
that the residents of Cimarron East take pride in their area
and would like to see something done to have this area
cleaned up.
Mr. Sanford, 1870 Black Oaks Lane, stated that he is on the
Board for Cimarron East and confirmed that there is "a mess"
from the construction of the previous building at the site.
He added that the the berm does not belong to Cimarron East
and they were to maintain it until the completion of the
building. No one else is maintaining it at this time.
Chairman Plufka asked if the petitioner owned Phase I.
Coordinator Dillerud indicated that he did not know.
Chairman Plufka suggested that this item be deferred until
the next meeting. He asked that staff determine who owns
the existing building, and perhaps this would be a City
enforcement problem. Director Tremere indicated that those
present at this meeting could be sent notices for the future
meeting.
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Motion by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner
Stulberg to defer this item and to direct staff to determine MOTION TO DEFEi
ownership of the site anu any special conditions of approval
for the original plat that would apply here regarding
maintenance of the open area..
Vote to Defer. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Chairman Plufka introduced the request. The reading of the
May 17, 1988 Staff report was waived. Chairman Plufka
introduced the petitioner, Mr. Ihor Panchenko. Mr.
Panchenko advised that the proposal was redesigned to
accommodate the changes. He stated that regarding the
Engineer's Report, the calculations were on their way. Mr.
Panchenko indicated that they were willing to do whatever
was necessary for approval. Sherm Goldberg indicated that
the resolution should reflect compliance with the City
Engineer's May 18, 1988 Memorandum, not the April 16, 1988
as stated.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired if Prudential Properties had
been notified of this meeting. Coordinator Dillerud
indicated that they had not.
Commissioner Zylla inquired if any other materials than
those depicted were ever used for construction. Mr.
Panchenko indicated that they were not. Commissioner Zylla
stated that he had been to the Eden Prairie location which
had brick and stucco exterior and said he was not impressed
with the physical appearance of the proposed bulding.
VOTE - MOTION CARRIEL:
IHOR PANCHEWO, SUPER
8 MOTEL. SITE PLAN,
CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AND VARIANCE
(88017)
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Motion by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Marofsky,to recommend approval subject to the conditions
listed in the staff report, by striking item 8 and
renumbering. The approval is of the revised plans submitted
after the initial hearing.
Commissioner Wire inquired about keeping the variances
despite the Planning Commission's direction. Mr. Panchenko
indicated that without the variances, they could only put a
35-40 unit building on the site, however, this would not be
economically feasible. The site has shape constraints and
they did make some plan changes to improve circulation.
Roll Call Vote. 4 ayes. Commissioners Wire and Zylla Nay. VOTE - MOTION CARRIE'
Vote. Motion Carried.
Commissioner Wire stated that he did not feel that the
petitioner presented adequate reasons for the setback
variances.
OTHER BUSINESS
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 10:58.
May 31, 1988
Mr. Bob Marquette
Aacron, Inc.
2705 Cheshire Lane
Plymouth, MN 55441
SUBJECT: MEETING CONCERNING THE REQUIREMENTS AND PROVISIONS OF
SARA TITLE III
Dear Mr. Marquette:
The Plymouth Department of Public Safety, and in particular the
Fire Department, is hosting a coffee and roll meeting for
Wednesday, June 15 at 9:30 A.M. in the Plymouth City Center.
The purpose of this meeting is two fold. First, we want to reach
out and get to know the persons in our community who are
responsible for notifications and reporting requirements of SARA.
It just makes good sense to me that we be on a first name basis
and be able to identify each other if an emergency should arise
in the future. Secondly, I believe that there is some confusion
caused by these government regulations. It is our hope to cut
through some of the red tape and discuss what this law really
means to us in the protection of your employees, residents living
in the vicinity of your company, and the environment in general.
The fire chief and two of his Fire Prevention Inspectors will be
at this meeting. We look forward to your participation.
Sincerely,
Richard J. Carlqui
Public Safety Director
cc: James G. Willis, City Manager
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them 90 percent of the property taxes they pay MTC.
The only other criterion for leaving is that the city
must be at the end of the MTC lines. Eagan, for exam-
ple, couldn't leave before Apple Valley because Eagan
is closer to the Twin Cities on the MTC route.
Sia of the cities thinking about leaving are in Dakota
Count} four of those are involved in a joint study with
two Scott County cities. And two Hennepin County sub-
urbs are mulling it over as well.
Whether any of those cities will actually ever leave
MTC remains to be seen, although some are clearly
leaning toward it.
But some of the five cities that have taken the big
step are convinced that suburban cities can provide a
lot better transit service by leaving the huge MTC sys-
tem. It would be almost impossible to provide less
service for the money, they said.
In Plymouth, assistant city manager Frank Boyles
said the city never received any MTC service even
though it was forced to pay a little more than $1 mil-
lion annually. Plymouth did get a small amount of
service from the tiny Medicine Lake Lines.
In 1983, Plymouth became the first city to leave
MTC, and Boyles said he couldn't be happier with the
results. The property tax money that once went to
MTC now pays for commuter service to downtown
Minneapolis and circulator service inside the Ply-
mouth city limits.
For suburbs, the expense of starting a separate bus
system is not as great as it might appear. Both Ply-
mouth and Shakopee lease vehicles from private com-
panies, which are responsible for maintenance and re-
pairs. The municipalities don't have to buy anything.
Shakopee's Stock said most suburban cities still
don't realize the potential of crafting a bus system spe-
cifically for their residents, rather than playing a
small role in the huge MTC.
"Whv not do it?" Stock asks. "You've got nothing to
lose and everything to gain."
Ed Kouneski, a program manager for the Regional
Transit Board, the planning body that oversees the
MTC and other transit services, said the RTB neither
encourages nor discourages cities from getting awa\
from MTC. The RTB is only interested in improvini'
transit programs in the suburbs.
"Opt -out does have a benefit," Kouneski said. "You,
idea wouldn't be competing for funds with other com-
munities. And your tag dollars are earmarked for your
community."
Kouneski said one of the RTB's main concerns L
coordination between the bus systems that develop.
The region needs to consider developing ways to trans-
fer between systems, he added, and possibly should
look at some sort of regional bus pass.
Apple Valley; Burnsville, Eagan, Prior Lake
Rosemount and Savage are conducting a joint study of
their transit options. Dean Johnson, the Rosemount
community development director who is heading that
study group, said a consultant will begin the work in
July. I
Johnson said the study will help determine whether`
the cities should leave the MTC. It's possible that they
will come up with a small regional system that serves
all six cities.
But some of the cities simply haven't given transit a '
lot of thought. Eagan city administrator Tom Hedger
said he doesn't hear many complaints about bus serv-
ice, and since city officials are generally busy with
other things, the topic has been left on the back burner.
"Nobody here is jumping up and down saying that
we've got to opt out," Hedges said.
A legislative audit of the RTB early this year
showed that Eagan's interest in transit isn't unsual.
Most cities the auditor consulted gave transit a "low"
or "very low" priority.
The same audit criticized the RTB for not gathering
more input from suburban cities or increasing service
in the suburbs. The auditor recommended that the
RTB establish better communication lines with the-
outlying
heoutlying cities.
Johnson said the RTB seems to be heeding that ad- "
vice. The six Dakota and Scott County communities
doing the joint study have secured a ;50,000 grant
from the RTB for their opt -out study, and the RTB's
staff is also going to provide technical assistance.
Cimarron East Homeowners Association, Inc.
1489819th Ave. No.
Plymc ath, MN 55441
149y 19, 1988
Yr. Janes G. Willis, City Niarnger
City of Pymouth
3400 Plymnvt�` Soule„lard
Pl ymo»th , Mirn. 1-1,447
Tear Mr. '`'illi s,
C,,
T'e: Possi'^le EnvirnnTMertal Problem, 21st Avenue North, west
of Fernbr�nk Lane.
There is qr old rYojr?rb wvich goes s-Tnethin^ pike this. "Sugar
P-ets nore rPsults than v*'re�,a,”.
CAse in mint. Last fal-', =;s r, responsible reTrber ^f the Cimarron
East Board of 1'irectors, I received a Tna_lirr-, from one of your
Erviror-ertal -people -elatir, - to a --;-oblem which had been detected
at the s,-r.thwest corner of our development. It called for tree
removal as called for by your ^rdinarce. 1.e complied immediately
ar.d I advised your stn --"f by phone.
Another case in point. For two da;fi now, I have been trying to get
s^me help from City staff relatinp- to the possibility of noxious
weeds ani a general cleanup of prop-rty on w�-;ich you currently
have a sivn which reads Proposed Development. The phone number
su-Qests (F12) 559-2800, Extensi_or 218 and t�-N call foY details.
I refer to a rarcel (or parcels) on the south side of 21st Avenue
exterdirp frnTn a point about 200 feet west of a new building up
to or..e o` your water installati^rs to the west near the berm area
beiorging to -,i)r Associati nn.
I am a volunteer. I do not have the time to go to the City offices
cerci to be directed to one or more of the City Departments. What
we have been nskir-- for is ir.format'_or as to the ownership of the
narcel (or parcels) which obviously you *rust know if your staff
are c^rsiderinr-r a proposal for development. So far I have talked
with the Enviror_mPntal Department, the Assessing Department and
the Plarnincr De-partment.
We are wnnderinm if you could please help us proceed in getting
s^me in4'orngtinn about the conditions of the debris, dead trees
and so or.. we have 184 taxpayers in our Association and about 20
units for sale. We fight a constant battle with overcoming bad
vi seal impress; -ors of our area. It is quite likely that other
Real Estate agents may have other reasons for not liking wheat they
see in these adjoining areas.
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Cimarron East Homeowners Association, Inc.
14898 19th Ave. No.
Plymouth, MN 55441
Yes, I am P Realtor, however I am ccn�erned fcr our owners whether
nr not I -IQ-ht ultimately represent them. From time tc time I aet
feedraolr frn+n ether acents to the effect that "Cimarron Fast is
not as ricely cared f -r ap Cimarror. Ponds" and so or.. Part of
this is our aeo7raphical distribution, of course.
A solution mlaht be a r^tice to the owrers of the prrcels to get
bulldo7Prs or bobcats in there for 3 to 4 hours ani to dramatically
charge the ar,neararce or the area. Assess them if they don't
cn-+plp vIthlr a few. dags. ,e did, w1,y not that ot,.ner.
p?av we hRlre your re.snonse.
Respectfull yours
CTNA ,'P' ? EAST HOMEO'.,Nr'"' 4 ASS(,C!A'1I01%
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D. Ssrdsta�lSecr,y
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May 27, 1988
Mr. Kenyon D. Sandstad
Secretary
Cimarron East HOA, Inc.
14898 - 19th Avenue North
Plymouth, MN 55441
SUBJECT: LANDSCAPING AT 14305 - 21ST AVENUE NORTH
Dear Mr. Sandstad:
Your May 19, 1988 letter expresses concern with the quality of the lands-
caping at 14305 - 21st Avenue North. As I understand, you raised a similar
concern during the Planning Commission review of a petition by this
developer to construct additional buildings west of this building.
As a result of your letter and Planning Commission discussions, I have
inspected the site, as has Al Cottingham, Associate Planner.
I am attaching a copy of Al's memorandum, identifying his findings.
Briefly, he states that a portion of the berm has not been restored to the
original state, and some dumping of miscellaneous materials has occurred to
the west of the site which should be cleaned up. The City currently holds a
landscaping bond which will be held until these problems are remedied.
I hope that this memorandum is responsive to your concerns about the
adequacy of the ljandscaping at this address.
S Gere ,
Frank yles
Assistant City Manager
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3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH. MINNESOTA 55441. TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEV7RD, PLYNT=, MIRv=A 55447
DATE: May 26, 1988
TO:
Chuck Dillerud,
Community
Development Coordinator
FROM:
Al Cottingham,
Associate
Planner e5? L
SUBJECT: LANDSCAPING AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 21ST AVENUE AND FERNBROOK LANE
(86004)
On Thursday, May 26, 1988 I inspected the above site and noted that with the
reconstruction of the retaining wall on the south side of the property, a portion of
the property berm had been effected during construction and had not been restored to
its original state. Also, an area to the west of the retaining wall had been
disturbed during construction and th-s area had been seeded rather than sodding.
During construction of this building, they had dumped some miscellaneous materials
on the site to the west which has not been cleaned up to date.
The City has a letter of credit in the amount of $25,000 covering the landscaping
for this site.
The developer will be notified of the problems that are noted today and prior to any
reduction of the financial guarantee, these items will need to be taken care of.
As a secondary issue the current developer of the land to the west of this building
is not related to the developer of this site and the City has had a good
relationship with this developer and the project he put up at the northeast corner
of 23rd Avenue and Niagara Lane.
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FARMHAND, INC.
Joe Lund
President
May 24, 1988
Mr. James G. Willis
City Manager
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, Minnesota 55447
Dear Mr. Willis:
Shorewood Village Center
P. 0. Box 1500
Excelsior, Minnesota 55331
(612) 474-1941
Thank you for your letter of May 18 in response to mine of May 9 concerning
Plymouth's 2 A.M.-5 A.M. parking ban.
Without becoming an argumentative "pain in the neck", I feel compelled to
respond to your letter. Your five "answers" are very "reasonable" and are,
in themselves, "reasons why" the solution (parking ban from 2 A.M. - 5 A.M.)
can be presented as a "good idea". My argument will address two aspects of
how I believe the reasoning to be misleading:
I. The law does not directly relate to any of the reasons
set forth.
2. The restrictions on the citizenry does not directly relate
to any of the reasons set forth.
In fact, the streets are "parking lots". They are designed and used to
permit cars to be parked on the streets and not impede the movement of
traffic. Of course, the term "parking lot" denigrates the argument into
something it is not. The streets are meant to accommodate parked cars for
the use of the citizenry. If your reasons (til, X13 or #5) were true, the
"parking ban" would not be limited to 3 hours in the middle of the night.
They would be enforced 24 hours a day. This is also true of A.
I appreciate the difficult role of a police officer. I can understand how,
particularly in the 2 A.M. - 5 A.M. time period, they can be apprehensive
and even frightened because of the potential dangers that exist in the
execution of their duties. I am also appreciative of the way the Plymouth
police carry out their duties. However, if we start to believe that we can
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Mr. James G. Willis
City of Plymouth
May 24, 1988
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pass a plethora of laws that will assist them in catching criminals by
restricting the activities of the citizenry, we are on our way toward
martial law. Again, if this is the purpose of the law, we could be much
more effective if we had a curfew and did not allow anyone on the streets
between 2 A.M. - 5 A.M. Conversely, for you to state that "The vehicles
on the street during these early morning hours can be immediately identi-
fied as 'suspicious'..." is very scary. We had some friends visit our home
and they left at 3 A.M. Forgetting about the 2 A.M. - 5 A.M. law, they
received a ticket. I think they would have been more careful if they had
known they would be "under suspicion" by the police as they left my house.
Your reason X14 is the best argument, in my view, but still doesn't respond
to the question. 1) There are already laws about parking during snowplow-
ing. 2) Sealcoating is rare and the public works advises us, in advance,
of the need to clear the street. That leaves 3) street sweeping. First,
it is not only between 2 A.M. - 5 A.M. that the street sweeping occurs, but
that is the only time the law applies. Second, if you (the law) were to
specify a day and a time that a specific street was to be cleaned, the
citizenry would not only be responsive, but, enthusiastic. With a reason
like this that makes practical sense, you will receive enthusiastic response
because we want our streets clean.
As to my second argument: The restrictions on the citizenry does not
directly relate to any of the reasons for the law.
1. The fact that I have a driveway and a garage is not responsive as
to why no one can park in front of my house (on the street). It
assumes conditions that are not true. Besides that, it is
argumentative. Where you live (I live on a cul-de-sac, for example)
is significant in whether the argument is applicable. The other
main argument is that the hours of 2-5 A.M. are not at all responsive
to your point. If what you say is true, it should be a 24 hour law.
The fact that the law is so narrow (2-5 A.M.) only enforces the
argument that any expansion of the law would be strongly resisted.
2. I doubt that the residents of Plymouth realize that the officials
(police) would consider them "suspicious" under the circumstances
that you relate. I would be very surprised if the average citizens
would consider themselves the bad guys. Yet, this law makes us
lawbreakers when we merely forget that the law changes at 2 A.M.
3. A citizen doing this action does not and cannot cause any of the
reasons you stated. The act, in itself, doesn't do anything but
cause "suspicion". The time frame is even arbitrary and spurious,
as you admit -- (the results you show in the evening and after
5 A.M. are not covered by the law).
Mr. James G. Willis
City of Plvmouth
May 24, 1988
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The importance of this disagreement is there are "reasons" to do it. When
individuals are restricted, by law, in their behavior, it must be a
compelling reason that their unrestricted actions will cause a danger to
people and/or property. It must be a "clear and present danger" and not
just a "good idea." We can come up with hundreds of "good ideas" about
the way other people ought to live.
We must first keep in mind freedom. Restriction and "suspicion" must be
pulled out reluctantly. We must worry about becoming "elitist" and telling
others how they must live.
My real worry about this law is that it is an "elitist" law (that cars
parked on the street are "unsightly and may reduce real estate values").
This, of course, is an argument also put forth by those who want to restrict
the'kind of people' that live next door to us.
I trust that the enclosed plans for my house will fall within both the
letter and spirit of the law.
I intend to offer "free night parking" to my neighbors. I will, in fact,
turn my lot into the "parking lot" that you suggest. We will answer four
of your "reasons." Of course, they still may be "suspicious," but, we'll
never know. Please advise me if this plan violates any other "good idea"
laws of which I may not be aware. I don't want to break the law.
You did not respond to my "results" question. Please let me know the number
of "snowbirds" "abandoned" cars from year to year. Also, please let me
know the "reduction in vandalism and trespassing at night" that you state
is a result. Also, please let me know the number of tickets imposed on the
innocent citizens where no other charge was forthcoming against them. This
is the cost of freedom paid for the results. I insist on knowing whether
it is "worth it."
My car (or my family's car or friend's car) is not an impediment nor a
danger to any of the citizens of Plymouth. It is not "abandoned," it is
not "suspicious," it does not stop safety vehicles. Yet, it is unlawful
for no reason.
I will continue my opposition to this arbitrary law; but, I will also obey
it (except by mistake).
Would you please indicate approval of my "parking lot" plan.
Mr. James G. Willis
City of Plymouth
May 24, 1988
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Sincere y,
Joseph J. Lund
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Enclosure
CC: Jerry Sisk
Mayor and City Council
Richard Carlquist, Public Safety Director
May 18, 1988
Mr. Joseph J. Lund
2705 Holly Lane
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mr. Lund:
Thank you for your letter of May 9 addressed to Councilmember Jerry Sisk.
Jerry has asked that I try and respond to your concerns with respect to the
City's 2 a.m. to 5 a.m. parking ban.
I appreciate your belief that the 2 a.m. to 5 a.m. parking ban is "a bad
law." I respectfully disagree.
The City Council initiated the current policy four or five years ago. Some
of the reasons for this are as follows:
1. Public streets are not "parking lots." All homes, as well as
businesses, in the community are expected to have sufficient
off-street parking to accommodate their particular uses. In
residential areas, most single family detached homes have garages,
as well as sufficient driveways for the parking of the vehicles
owned by the occupants or guests. Similarly, attached residential
dwellings, including apartments, are required to have sufficient
off-street .parking so as to accommodate the occupants and
occasional guests. Finally, of course, commercial/industrial
structures are required to have adequate off-street parking to
accommodate all employees.
2. The 2 a.m. to 5 a.m. ban has been instrumental in reducing
vandalism and trespassing at night. The vehicles on the street
during these early morning hours can be immediately identified as
"suspicious" by our patrolling police vehicles.
3. Plymouth streets are safer to pedestrians and motor vehicle
operators alike, particularly before and after normal working hours
and on weekends because fewer people now park their vehicles on the
streets. This provides both pedestrian, bike and motor vehicles
with less encumbered vision than would otherwise be the case if the
streets were used as parking lots as was previously the case.
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
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Mr. Joseph J. Lund
May 18, 1988
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4. Street maintenance functions, such as street sweeping, sealcoating
and snowplowing are accomplished more quickly than would otherwise
occur because people are used to using off-street, rather than
on -street parking.
5. Parking on some streets constitutes an impediment to getting public
safety vehicles to emergency response destinations. The parking
ban has almost eliminated this problem during the evening and early
morning hours, the time when most fire calls are received.
I believe the foregoing are purposes for having established the 2 a.m. to 5
a.m. parking ban. I can assure you it is not to "punish" you or any citizen
of our fine community.
We do recognize that there may be times when situations arise which would
make strict adherense to the ordinance difficult. For example, following
the sealcoating or paving of a driveway it is not prudent to have cars drive
across the new surface for a period of time. In such instances our Public
Safety Department, when informed in advance, is prepared to cooperate with
the homeowner.
Thank you for your interest and concern with respect to this matter.
Sincerely,
mes G. Willis
C ty Manager
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cc: Mayor and City Council
Richard Carlquist, Public Safety Director
FARMHAND, INE.
Shorewood Village Center
P. 0. Box 1500
Excelsic , Minnesota 55331
Joe Lund
President
May 9, 1988
Mr. Jerry Sisk
17015 - 24th Avenue North
Plymouth, Minnesota 55447
Dear Jerry:
16121 474-1941
Concerning our discussion on Sunday about the parking restrictions on
Plymouth streets between 2-5 A.M.
I believe this law to be a bad law. It penalizes and restricts the
residents of Plymouth for no valid reason.
As I understand your explanation, the concern that the law addresses
is the abandonment of vehicles. Obviously, a car on the street at
2:00 A.M. on any day is a long way from considering it "abandoned."
Surely, there is a more reasonable definition that should be used --
perhaps 72 hours when a car has been "unmoved."
But, as clearly as I see the unreasonableness behind this rationale,
I see the unreasonableness behind the real problem: It is not the
fact of the cars; it's the difficulty of enforcement.
It's easy to say, "Any car on the street get's a ticket." No discretion,
no difficulty for the police. A similar law could be passed to limit
burglaries (taking place under cover of darkness); after sundown, anyone
on the street will be arrested. Or, drunken driving (also more prolific
after dark), any driver on our roads will be arrested.
I think you (the council) are punishing the citizenry with little
justification. We should be trying to make it easier for the citizens,
not tougher.
Would you let me know the statistics that precipitated the law; how
many abandoned, snowbird, vehicles were dealt with the year before the
law? How many this past year? The difference will show the effective-
ness of the law. Now, how many tickets were issued in order to get
these results? Is it worth it? I'd bet not. Limiting people's
freedoms shouldn't be so cheap.
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`1r. Jerry Sisk:
May 9, 1988
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It seems to me that the laws are meant for protection. I cannot
speed or go through stop signs because I endanger others. I can't
burn leaves because I foul the air (a public domain).. What do I
do when my car is parked in front of my house between 2-5 A.M.?
Is there a reason that the citizenry of Plymouth doesn't want my
car in front of my house between 2-5 A.M.? Is it my car that is a
problem?
I would appreciate any consideration you can give to help remove
this arbitrary law from the booi:s.
Thank you.
S incere ly, ,
i
Joseph J. Lund
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JINI RANISTAD
Senator 45th Di,tria
2618 Cro,b% ko.kd
N\a%zata. Niinne,ot.:;:y
(61 -1, -1-5-;;65
Office:
Senate
L? State Office Buildin_
Saint Paul. Minnesota 55155
(612 1296-9-'4;1
State of Minnesota
May 27, 1988
James G. Willis
City Manager
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Jim:
Your're absolutely
correct about the property tax provisions of
the recently enacted
Omnibus Tax Bill. The suburban taxpayers
will again see sizeable
property tax increases to support local
spending habits in
outstate Minnesota.
This DFL "reform"
is closely akin to the "equity funding" for
schools enacted in
1987. Both schemes serve to redistribute the
wealth by hitting
the suburbs inordinately hard.
I must admit that I did not realize just how bad the property
tax provisions were when we voted in the Senate. Also, I'm very
pleased that our group decided unanimously to "sue the bastards,"
which is not only appropriate legal action but, in my judgment,
a winning lawsuit as the Constitutional arguments are quite strong
in our favor.
Thanks again for your letter and your decisive action. I only
wish we had more to say about taxing and spending matters in the
Legislature.
Bt. regards,
J RAMSTAD
State Senator
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May 26, 1988
Mayor Schneider
City Hall
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mayor Schneider:
I'm writing in response to our telephone conversation we had
last week.
My complaints are as follows:
I purchased my home at 12030 28th Ave. North, in Plymouth on
6-1-86. Since the purchase of my home I've done extensive
landszaping to the tune of $30,000 plus, not counting my sweat
equity. I also pay $6,400 a year in property taxes.
Since last July 1987, I've had to put up with a rock, asphalt,
cement and a iron dump. This dump is located next door (N.E.).
This is truly an eyesore and this has reduced my property
value. The city issued a permit for this project, but did
nothing to monitor it. Now I suffer the effects!
Secondly, Mr. Jerry Juelich is now renting out two dock slips on
a dock slip that we are sharing. This is a clear zoning
violation.
Last year someone stole my boat moter, I'm not blaming Mr.
Juelich or his renters, but you can see it adds to the problem
of security. There is also a question of legal liability if
someone would get hurt on the dock. I bought my home for
privacy not a public asses. Mr. Juelich and the renters both
stated, that they pay Juelich $75 a month and Juelich stated he
receives $75 from each renter.
Finally, Juelich stated to me that the boulevard in front of my
home would be sodded in July of 1986. It's still not sodded and
the weeds grow 4 ft. high in the summer. It is an eyesore and
creates a weed problem for my lawn.
Please Mr. Schneider I would appreciate any help you could
offer.
Sincerely,
William Haberman
Dr. David L. Kennedy & Dr. Clinton C. Strehle
Optometrists
1025 N 1:vcrgrecn Lane • Plymuuth, ;!1\ 55441 • lc1. 612-545-8850
may 27, 1988
Mr. Eric Blank
Park & Recreation Dept.
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Eric,
I'm writing to urge your department to plan and support the
expansion of Tennis participation in Plymouth by developing new
public tennis courts preferably in the Plymouth City Center area.
As a citizen of Plymouth for 14 years, my family and I have
participated in many of the Plymouth - sponsored events - tennis
tournaments, soccer and swimming. We would like to have tennis
courts in the central area of Plymouth - hopefully when discussion
of a Central Park concept might be. The trail system seems to be
coming along well and perhaps the paths could be used by adults and
teenagers for biking or walking to the central courts.
Please look into the possibility of developing these Tennis
Courts. Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
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Mr. Mark McCullough
1900 First Bank Place West
Minneapolis, MN 55402
SUBJECT: XENIUM LANE EXTENSION
Dear Mr. McCullough:
Thank you for your letter of May 19 in which you again express your interest
in the extension of Xenium Lane.
As I have communicated to you previously, this matter will be the subject of
discussion as we consider updating the City's five-year Capital Improvement
Program.
Yours truly,
ames G. Willis
C ty Manager
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cc: Mayor & City Council
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNFSUTA 55447. TELEPHONE (1612) 559-2800
SKAAR &- MCCULLOUGH
HARVEY E. SKAAR
MARK C. MCCULLOUGH
James Willis
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mr. Willis:
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1900 FIRST BANK PLACE WE -
MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 5 5402-18 93
(612) 333 - 1511
May 19, 1988
Re: Xenium Lane Extension
I sent your letter of April 14, 1988, to the persons and companies
interested in this matter. All parties are very disappointed with the City's
reaction to an obvious and inevitable problem caused by the City's failure to
provide adequate access, as called for in the comprehensive plan, before allowing
the construction of the numerous projects in this area.
In your letter you acknowledge that the traffic usage on 34th Avenue "could
change with continuing development." In light of the additional 370 to 500
apartment units being constructed on Xenium Lane, and with the new development
in the Northwest Business Campus, we believe it is obvious that traffic usage will
change with continuing development. Our request to have Strgar-Roscoe-Fausch
do an estimate of future traffic usage was not to demonstrate the inevitable to
us, but to the City.
Obviously by the time the actual traffic count reaches a level when the City
feels it should do something, there will be an substantial period of time necessary
for planning, acquisition and construction before something can actually be done.
Why not address the problem now?
One of the major criticisms I've heard of local cities, including the City of
Plymouth, is that the cities react to problems, rather than act to avoid problems.
This criticism appears to be justified in the present case. While we all can
empathize with the City's fiscal concerns, we do not feel that these concerns
should be placed ahead of the inevitable traffic and safety problems presented for
the residents of Heritage Estates as traffic continues to build over the next
weeks and months.
I am certain if you and the City Council Members visit our neighborhood on a
week night and see the number of children playing near the residential streets,
you will better understand our concerns for turning our residential streets into a
James Willis
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
May 19, 1988
Page 2
collector street, even on a temporary basis, due to the City's failure to
adequately plan for the development it has allowed.
Thank you for your consideration of these concerns.
Very tc�ly our
Mar C. McC, ough
MCM:slr
cc: See Attached Mailing List
(including Plymouth City Council Members)
MAILING LIST
PLYMOUTH CITY COUNCIL Ron Clark
City of Plymouth RON CLARK CONSTRUCTION
3400 Plymouth Boulevard 5114 Edina Industrial Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447 Edina, MN 55435
Michael L. Mulligan
Alan Hamel
Vice President—Communications
GAUGHAN COMPANIES
SUPER VALUE STORES, INC.
299 NW Coon Rapids Boulevard
P.O. Box 990
Coon Rapids, MN 55433
Minnepolis, MN 55440
Connie Anderson, President
Stan Hultberg, Jr.
HERITAGE HIGHLANDS HOMEOWNERS
12910 - 34th Avenue North
ASSOCIATION
Plymouth, MN 55441
3735 Vinewood Lane North
Plymouth, MN 55441
Norman D. Herbst
3385 Sycamore Lane
Richard Fyock, General Manager
Plymouth, MN 55441
SCANTICON
3131 Campus Drive
Jerome Begin
Plymouth, MN 55441
BEGIN CONTRACTING COMPANY
13600 Rockford Road
Carlos Hodge
Plymouth, MN 55441
PRUDENTIAL INSURANCE COMPANY
Minneapolis Realty Group Office
3530 Multifoods Tower
Minneapolis, MN 55402
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
June 1, 1988 MEMO
DATE:
James G. Willis, City Manager
TO:
Bob Zitur
FROM:
STATEMENT - BUDGET STUDY SESSION
SUBJECT MEMO PACKET OF MAY 27, 1988 - RUMOR, ETC.
My statement for the record is, that I was told by a reliable source
that when the new community service officer came on board, that he was
hired to remain in the office at the time. Further, that the Council
directed this. This councilmember did not vote at last year's budget
session for a new community service officer to do solely office work!
This past year I had the opportunity to ride along in the CSO wagon
until the wee hours of the morning, and I clearly understand the
position of a CSO.
cc: Information Memo
Mayor & City Council
North Star
Risk Services, Inc.
May 27, 1988
Mr. Richard Carlquist
Director of Public Safety
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Dick:
Just a quick note to extend my sincere thanks to you for your
participation in our recent loss control workshops in Mankato
and Rochester. Your presentations are a valuable resource for
law enforcement personnel and greatly assist in "spreading the
gospel" on the subject of law enforcement liability issues.
I especially appreciate your willingness to allow us to
videotape your presentation. As we assist member cities in the
League of Minnesota Cities Insurance Trust, these videotape
presentations should provide them with some valuable resource
material.
Again, thank you for all your assistance, and I hope to see you
aga'in in the near future.
Sincerely,
Dave Drugg
Loss Control Manager
DLD/cp
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1401 West 76th Street, Suite 550 0 Minneapolis, Afinnesota 55423 ■ (612) 861-8600 ■ FAX (612) 861-8643
,lune 1, 1988
Mayor Virgil Schneider and
City Council
City of Plymouth '
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, Minnesota 5544T
Dear Mayor and Cite Council:
You probably have seen by now my criticism at a recent Planning Commission
meeting over the City's requirement to fire sprinkler the Pat Goff
townhouse project north of County Road 9 on Fernbrook avenue. Apparently
the City staff made its standard request to the developer on the need to
have paved fire lanes around the buildings and the developer agreed to the
fire sprinklering in lieu of the fire lanes. 1 have had concerns about
the City's fire lane ordinance before I used the word ludicrous to
describe the City's requirement of fire sprinklering this residential
townhouse project. I would lilce to provide a fe,.: follow --up comments
directly to the council or, this sub iect.
I am aware that the City does require fire sprinkler systems in industrial
and commercial projects. Fire sprinklering is also required in
multi -residential districts exceeding 3 stories in height. I read in awe
the ordinance adoption in January of this year wherein the width of fire
lanes was expanded from 12 feet to 15 feet to accommodate larger
equipment, but the Pat Goff sprinkler requirement is going beyond what I
believe is a reasonable interpretion of the current ordinance.
I believe that the original intent of providing fire lanes to enhance the
ability of emergency vehicles to suppress fires has been carried too far
in the city of Plymouth. I believe it is reasonable for the fire
department to participate in the site planning process and to make
recommendations to enhance the accessibility of all sides of structures in
order to suppress fires. I do not believe that a site planning process
should be predicated on the installation of fire lanes nor should the City
put pressure on developers to fire sprinkler residential multiple family
dwelings less than 3 stories in height whether they are owned or rental.
Nor do I believe from a site planning point of view that we ought to be
requiring 7 ton paved fire lanes of 15 feet in width in areas that would
typically (or should) be green area.
I am fully supportive of the efforts made by the Public Safety Department
sucess
in Plymouth and feel very strongly about the adenerale I avantags na notcanti-life
accomplished by volunteer fire departments in _
safety, but rather pragmatic in my approach to site design and the
enforcement of reasonable ordinance provisions in our community.
i ;�robal i don't have alt the facts
ncr d:: _r;a\-e the timc
nla,Kir research effort. but. I do behevc
that tt 4 Ilr,. laat pI'i 1510;1 i;.
pl �-inouth are unique to Nvillouth.
Tile lan: ua2 e contained in tri
code is not language adopted from
either the National or the Stat(- f 11•l
codes. Since Plymouth has a right
to modify- the state code the question
thee, becomes hot, stringent ought
Plymouth be in adopting its own fire
code.
Fire lanes constructed mean fire lanes maintained 12 months out of the
I would like to know khat our record is relative to enforcing the
year.
maintenance of fire lanes. Are we
requirixiZ this mass of asphalt to be
constructed only to have this area
unmaintained'
Up until recently- my wife thought
the fire lane around the Plymouth Raquet
Club was a running track. Maybe
it should be. At least then it would
serve some functional purpose. Does anyone 1:now whf9t tile: cost per sctuare
foot is to build these lanes to a I
ton standard''
Besides the concerns for the aesthetics of the site which I believe arE_
diminished with thc construction of asphalt fire lanes. 1 would think we
would have some concern for the lack of percolation that we create with
thes,:= additional impervious surfaces. It v-ould seen-, to me that with the
fire apparatus we have in the city- combined with the placement of fire-
hydrants
irehydrants and looped water systems that we mandate in any sit( approval
process that our fire department has sufficient tools that tiler need to
suppress fires without the need for blachtopped fire lades.
Lastly, let me state that I thinly. that %,e can all agree that buildiiles
don't. start fires people do, ane that while occasionally equipment fails
resulting in a fire, for the most part the best fire protection is a Food
fire prevention program which includes regular inspection of buildings bv
the fire department. Blacktopped fire lanes to me are a reactive rather
than a proactive approach to a good fire prevention program. If we need a
blacktopped fire lane, its already- too late.
I think the Citi- has over reached in requiring fire sprinkiering of
residential buildings less than 3 stories and I air: concerned that not only;
is the city adding an unnecessary- cost to a developer which ultimates -
gets passed to a homeowner or a renter, but we are fostering an
unfavorable opinion of ourselves by the development community- and
establishing a precedent which I believe is unnecessary in the
metropolitan community and our city.
CSincerely,
Dennis Zylla
P. S. A letter will also follow with my opinions on area assessments for
down -guiding and requiring structured. parking in office -warehouse
projects. I also do not agreed with the city on these issues.
city of
bloomington, minnesota
Municipal Building • 2215 West Old Shakopee Road • Bloomington, Minnesota 55431-3096 • (612) 881-5811
June 1, 1988
Mayor Virgil Schneider
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, MN 55447
We have been advised that an executive committee of the bench of Hennepin County
District Court has approved a proposal to transfer jury trials from the
Brookdale, Southdale and Ridgedale court facilities to the Hennepin County
Government Center. The full bench is scheduled to vote on the proposal on June
6, 1988.
On May 23, 1988, the City Council of the City of Bloomington unanimously
approved a resolution opposing the transfer of Bloomington's jury trials from
the Southdale court facility to the Hennepin County Government Center. Enclosed
is a copy of that resolution.
The City of Bloomington consented to moving its court to Southdale with the
understanding that all court and jury trials would be conducted at the Southdale
facility. Moving the jury trials downtown would impose a substantial burden on
the City Attorney's staff and the police department. In addition, civilian wit-
nesses, many of whom reside in Bloomington, would be inconvenienced. It is a
simple fact that many suburban residents are unfamiliar with downtown
Minneapolis and would not be pleased with the expense and unavailability of
parking.
The City Council and City staff believe this proposed move would result in
significant increases in the cost of prosecution, ranging from increased loss of
worktime for police and prosecutors, additional overtime pay and probable
increases in personnel.
The City of Bloomington urges your support in opposing this action.
E. L. Woulfe, CMC
City Clerk ,
City of Bloomington
ELW/kc
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AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER
Telecommunications Device for the Deaf (612) 887-967;
RESOLUTION NO. 88 - 7;
A RESOLUTION IN OPPOSITION TO TRANSFERRING JURY TRIALS FROM THE
SOUTHDALE COU,:T FACILITY TO THE DOWNTOWN HENNEPIN COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER
WHEREAS, the City of Bloomington is the official governing body of the City
of Bloomington; and
WHEREAS, state law previously required that a municipal court facility be
located in the City of Bloomington for prosecution of misdemeanor offenses
occurring within the City's jurisdiction; and
WHEREAS, the City of Bloomington consented to moving the Bloomington
municipal court facility to Southdale based on Hennepin County's representation
that all court and jury trials would be conducted at the Southdale facility; and
WHEREAS, tht Southdale court facility has sufficient courtroom space to
accommodate the handling of all court and jury trials for municipalities located
in Division IV; and
WHEREAS, the City has been informed that an executive committee of the
Hennepin County District Court judges voted recently to transfer the handling of
Bloomington jury trials from the Southdale facility to the downtown Hennepin
County Government Center; and
WHEREAS, the entire Hennepin County bench is scheduled to vote on the above
proposal on June 6, 1988; and
WHEREAS, the Bloomington City Attorney's Office presently assigns two
attorneys to handle criminal prosecution and moving Bloomington's jury trials
from Southdale to the Hennepin County Government Center would strain its ability
to make all required court appearances including arraignments, pre -trials and
court trials, and thereby likely result in cases being dismissed; and
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WHEREAS, the Bloomington Police Department is strongly opposed to the
proposed move because of the in-reased time and cost involved in travelling
downtown and the fact that police officers can currently be working and "on-
call" when jury trials are processed at the Southdale facility; and
WHEREAS, it is the experience of the City Attorney's Office that civilian
witnesses are often reluctant to travel downtown because of excess time lost
from work; unfamiliarity with downtown; and cost and availability of parking and
that this general reluctance will make it more difficult to successfully
prosecute cases; and
WHEREAS, it is highly likely that suburban jury trials would have low
priority for jury assignment in the downtown facility and that a backlog of
cases would inevitably develop; and
WHEREAS, moving jury trials downtown would further distance the residents
of Bloomington from their court system and constitute a waste of taxpayers money
expended for construction of the Southdale facility; and
WHEREAS, the transfer of jury trials from the Southdale facility to the
Hennepin County Government Center will result in substantial increases in the
total cost of prosecution for the City of Bloomington, including loss of police
and attorney work time, increased overtime pay, and probable increases in
personnel;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
BLOOMINGTON IN REGULAR MEETING ASSEMBLED, that the City Council strongly opposes
the proposed transfer of Bloomington's jury trials from the Southdale court
facility to the downtown Hennepin County Government Center for the foregoing
reasons.
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BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that a copy of this resolution be sent to each
member of the Hennepin County Commissioners, °loomington's representatives in
the State Legislature and the mayors of each municipality located in Division II
(Brookdale), Division III (Ridgedale) and Division IV (Southdale).
Passed and adopted this 23rd day of May 1988.
ATTEST:
Secretary to the Council