HomeMy WebLinkAboutCouncil Information Memorandum 02-04-1988CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
February 4, 1988
UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS.....
1. PLYMOUTH FORUM - Monday, February 8, 7:00 p.m. Plymouth Forum in
the City Council conference room.
Z COUNCIL MEETING -- Monday, February 8, 7:30 p.m. Special City
Council meeting in the City Council chambers.
3. BOARD OF ZONING -- Tuesday, February 9, 7:30 p.m. The Board of
Zoning Adjustments and Appeals will meet in the City Council
chambers. Agenda attached. (M-3)
4. PLANNING COMMISSION -- Wednesday, February 10. The Planning
Commission Forum will begin at 7:15 p.m., with the regular Planning
Copmission meeting following at 7:30 p.m, in the City Council
chambers. Agenda attached. (M-4)
5. PLYMOUTH DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL -- Wednesday, February 10, 7:30 a.m.
The Plymouth Development Council will meet in the City Council
conference room. A copy of the meeting notice/agenda is attached.
(M-5)
6. PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION -- Thursday, February 11,
7:00 p.m. The Park and Recreation Advisory Commission will meet in
the City Council chambers. Agenda attached. (M-6)
7. LEAGUE OF CITIES LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE -- Tuesday, February 16,
St. Paul Radisson Hotel. A copy of the conference program is
attached. A reception for legislators and state officials will
follow the conference at 5:30 p.m. (M-7)
8. FEBRUARY & MARCH MEETING CALENDARS -- Meeting calendars for February
and March are attached. M-8
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
February 4, 1988
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FOR YOUR INFORMATION...
1. MINUTES:
a. Planning Commission, January 27, 1987 (I -1a)
2. CORRESPONDENCE RESPONDING TO CORPS OF ENGINEERS PUBLIC NOTICE ON
CITY LANDFILL PERRIT REQUEST -- The attached correspondence has een
forwarded to us from the Corps of Engineers as a result of their
public notice on the City's application for landfill permit. (I-2)
3. GEESE -- Dave Crain forwarded a copy of the attached New York Times
article on the overpopulation of Canadian geese in the Twin Cities
area. (I-3)
4. CORRESPONDENCE:
a. Letter to Shari French, 3600 Ximinies Lane, from Mayor
Schneider, responding to her complaint about snowmobilers.
(I-4 a)
b. Letter to Paul Jarzembinski, 3760 Pilgrim Lane, from Mayor
Schneider, addressing Mr. Jarzembinski's concerns with respect
to a City employee's operation of a front end loader to clear
snow along the Pilgrim Lane sidewalk. (I -4b)
c. Letter to Randy Nord, President, Kingsview Heights Homeowners
Association, from Mayor Schneider, providing answers and
background information to questions raised at a recent HOA
meeting the Mayor attended. (I -4c)
d. Letter from Mary Moreira, 3048 Kyle Avenue No., Golden Valley,
to Mayor Schneider, with regard to a parking citation she
received at the Holiday Plus store. (I -4d)
e. Letter to Mayor Schneider, from Ery Lichten, Past President,
Minneapolis Glass Company, concerning construction of a stair
rail at the new Advance Machine office and warehouse building in
Plymouth. Memorandums from Blair Tremere and Joe Ryan
responding to Mr. Lichten's letter are also attached. The
background information referenced in the memorandums is on file
in Blair's office for Council review if desired. (I -4e)
f. Note of appreciation to Plymouth Police Investigator Bill
Hanvik. (I -4f)
g. Letter to Merrilee Riley from Jerry Sisk, in response to her
January 27 letter. (I -4g)
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
February 4, 1988
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h. Letter to Jerry Jensen, Lyndale Terminal Company, from Frank
Boyles, concerning resident complaints about snowplowing at the
Plymouth Holiday Plus store. (1-4h)
i. Letter from Glenn C. Olson, Metropolitan Transit Commissioner,
giving a brief report on the MTC's work activity. (I -4i)
James G. Willis
City Manager
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attachments
AGENDA
Board of Zoning Adjustments
and Appeals
Tuesday, February 9, 1988
Plymouth Blvd.
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
4. NEW BUSINESS
WHERE: Plymouth City Center
Council Chambers
3400
Plymouth, MN
7:30 P.M.
January 12, 1988
A. Earl Hanke. Variances from the front yard setback for property
located at 11710 28th Avenue North. (02-01-88).
B. Nick Boosalis. Variance from the maximum size of freestanding signs
for property located at 11040 State Highway 55. (12-03-87).
5. OTHER BUSINESS
b. ADJOURNMENT
PLANNING COMI'lISSION MEETING AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 1985
WHERE: Plymouth City Center
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MIJ 55447
C011SENT AGEtADA
All items listed with an asterisk (*) are considered to be routine by the Planning
Commission and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of
these items unless a Commissioner, citizen or petitioner so requests, in which event
the item will be removed from the consent agenda arid considered in normal sequence on
the agenda.
PUBLIC FORUM
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3.* CONSENT AGENDA
4.* APPROVAL OF MINUTES
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
7:15 P.M.
7:30 P.M.
January 27, 1955
A. Danial and Dee Mertes. Planned Unit Development Amendment and Lot Division to
create one additional lot within the Mission Hills Park 8th Addition at 11400
42nd Avenue North (87129)
6. NEW BUSINESS
None
7. OLD BUSINESS
A. Al Hamel, Gaughan Companies. Rezoning, Preliminary Plat, Site plan and
Conditional Use Permit to create 66 lots for 35 multi -family units, 55
townhome units, and 62 coach home units on property located southeast of I-494
and Countv Road 9 (57067)
8. OTHER BUSINESS - DISCUSSION ITEMS:
1. Ordinance standard for parking for retail uses and shopping centers.
2. Community -Based Residential Care Facilities Study
3. Date and Locations for Bus Tour of the City.
9. ADJOURNMENT 9:30 P.M.
CITY OF PL-YMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD_ PLYMOUTH. MINNESOTA 554:7
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE: January 27, 1955
TO: Plymouth Development Councilmembers
FROM: Bob Burger, President
SUBJECT FEBRUARY 10 MEETING
The next meeting of the Plymouth Development Council will be held on
Wednesday morning, February 10 at 7:30 a.m. in the Plymouth City Center
Council Conference Room. The following items are scheduled for discussion.
You may wish to bring up other items as well:
I. Final report on asthetic standards recommendations.
II. Final report on fire sprinkler/fire lane ordinance amendments.
111. Final report on engineering guideline revisions for street
construction.
1�. Fee revisions:
A. Park dedication fees.
B. Sewer and water area charges.
V. Staffing changes.
V1. Other business.
I hope to see you at the meeting!
BB:kec
cc: James G. Willis, City Manager
Blair Tremere, Director of Planninq & Community Development
Fred Moore, Director of Public Works
Joe Ryan, Building Official
Dick Carlquist, Public Safety Director
Frank Boyles, Assistant City Manager
S.F. 2/9/88
MINUTES
PLYMOUTH DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL
October 2S, 195;
PRESE14 Peter Pflaum, Lundgren Brothers Construction Company ; Greg Frank,
McCombs -Knutson, Marlin Grant, Marvin Anderson Construction Co.;
Fred Haas, Marvin Anderson Construction Co.; Sherm Goldberg,
consulting engineer; Don Myron, Don Myron Realty; Bob Burger,
Burger Development Group; Fran Hagen, Westwood Planning b
Engineering; and Citv Staff Members, Blair Tremere,
John Sweeney, Ray Anderson, and Scott McLellan
I. FOLLOW UP ON ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS -- Blair Tremere explained the
recent building ordinance amendments regardinq waste facilities which are
now classified as a conditional use in the Planned Industrial Zoninq
District. He said there were some additional future items identified by the
City Council and Planning Commission which were largely housekeeping items
and the Development Council would be kept informed as those were considered
at a public hearing. He reviewed the ordinance amendments approved earlier
this year which provide for a limited amount of administrative approval of
certain non-residential development plans. Bob Burger suggested that
interested parties should become familiar with the ordinance requirements so
that they can take advantage of this streamlined review process.
Ii. ARCHITECTURAL REVIE4 TASK FORCE REPORT -- Bob Burger reported that the task
force appointed by the City Council had completed its work, and had
communicated its findings to the Planning Commission. He distributed the
October 22, 1987 transmittal letter. Blair Tremere reviewed the letter and
the findings of the task force. He said the Planning Commission will be
considering it at their October 28 meeting and will then determine whether
to have a public hearing or whether to just discuss it at a future study
meeting.
Bob Burger stated that he and two other developers had been involved with
the task force and he asked that the Development Council take action to
endorse the process as completed so far. There was a MOTION by Peter
Pflaum, seconded by Don Myron, to endorse the report as contained in the
October 22, 1967 transmittal letter regarding the findings of the Building
Aesthetic Task Force. The motion passed unanimously.
III. STATUS REPORT ON BUILDING INSPECTION AND PERMIT ISSUANCE TURN AROUND TIME --
Bob Burger reiterated that the building plan review time had been cut
substantially, and that the Building Inspection Department had additional
manpower to facilitate the response time for inspections. Assistant Build-
ing Official Scott McLellan explained the procedure and lists now used for
both plan checking and for determining when work is ready for inspection.
He said the plan check time, particularly for residential plans, had been
substantially reduced and rarely took longer than five days. He described
the process including the screening of those applications which are not in
order. Priority is given to those plans "hick are in order.
PLYMOUTH DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL
October 26, 1987
Page two
He explained that the ne,6 field inspecto.
substantially since noir there are two field
sibility is residential inspection, while
for non-residential work. Coverage of the
r had reduced tht response time
inspectors whose primar,, respon-
another is primaril\ responsible
cite is much improved.
Fred Haas stated that there were some instances with their firm, where they
had to wait for footing inspections sometimes up to two days. Scott
McLellan stated that Fred should let him or Joe Ryan know when that occurs
since the response time generally has been much shorter. Blair Tremere
advised that the builders can help at that stage by calling the city before
the concrete for the footings is scheduled. The city standard has been and
now is, a twenty-four hour response time for virtually all inspections.
IV. PROPOSED CHANGES TO ENGINEERING GUIDELINES FOR STREET CONSTRUCTION
REQUIREMENTS -- Bob Burger referred to the materials attached to the agenda,
namely the October 12, 1987 memorandum from Public Works Director Fred
Moore. The sheet, "Recommended changes to present City Engineering Guide-
lines" dated October 9, 1987 was reviewed in detail. John Sweeney explained
that the City had hired a consultant who had recently completed a pavement
management study relative to the City streets. He reviewed the findings of
the study which served as a basis for the recommendations for changing the
engineering guidelines.
Extensive discussion ensued. Bob Burger expressed concern that the changes
would result in additional expenses. Sherm Goldberg stated that the first
recommendation regarding tests should not be a problem since that normally
is done now and does not represent a major additional expense.
Greg Frank stated, however, that his concern is with the proposal for addi-
tional three feet granular material and the requirement that provisions be
made so that house drainage systems tie into the street drainage system. He
said that that would be very expensive and could be problematical later on.
Sherm Goldberg said that he considered the qranular fill requirement to
exceed normal requirements including those of MnDOT.
Further discussion ensued, particularly regarding the recommendations on
storm drainage. Fran Hagen expressed concern with long term and
indiscriminate use of the policy particularly as to requirements for
granular materials.
Sohn Sweeney clarified the difference between the findings of the
consultant's report and the engineer's recommendations.
Greg Frank reiterated his concerns about the three foot granular material
standard.
Peter Pflaum said that more time was needed for the Development Council to
review this and that the City Council should be asked to table the item.
PLYMOUTH DEVELOW� ENT COUNCIL _
October 28, 1957
Page three
Bob Buraer stated that someone should represent the Development Council at
the Citv Council meeting on Hondd� , Novemer 2.
Peter Pflaum said that there are some- evidence o` substantial cost impacts
with this policy and that the cit\- should also be concerned about possible
liability problem with houses tied into the system and there are back ups in
the storm sewer system.
Fran Hagen inquired whether the City realizes the potential costs which
might be involved with city projects.
Bob Burger commented that there might be long term maintenance problems,
especially with the drainage system and tie-in's to homes. Fran Hagen
agreed and said that there might even be lona term concerns about rodents
who could nest in a storm drainage system.
Marlin Grant asked whether this policy format had been adopted in other
communities; Sherm Goldberq stated that most cities have a policy with such
standards that can be implemented where they are necessary, i.e., the
standards are not adopted across the board.
Greg Frank inquired whether the study included age of street, and John
Sweeney acknowledged that it did. Greg Frank stated that it is important to
account for the expected life of street. Sherm Goldberg explained the back-
ground which lead to the report.
Bob Burqer concluded that while the recommendation regarding testing is not
a major concern, there are concerns with the other three items.
MOTION by Bob Burger, seconded by Marlin Grant, to recommend to the City
Council that action on the recommended changes to the Engineering Guidelines
be deferred, because of the broad implications of the policy and the
potential economic affect; the purpose of the deferral is so that the
Development Council can review the report and present a formal response at a
later date. The Development Council concludes that full analysis of the
proposed changes is extremely- important to the orderly development of the
city.
The motion passed unanimously.
Bob Burger appointed a subcommittee consisting
Sherm Goldberg, and himself, to coordinate the
changes. He said the purpose of the review
problem really is and how it can be effectively
V. OTHER BUSINESS
of Fran Hagen, Greg Frank,
review of the recommended
is to determine where the
solved.
Bob Burger stated that he continues to have concerns with the city lot
coverage requirement of 20% maximum for, all structures including decks.
Marlin Grant commented that 20% seems too little. Bob Burger agreed, but
stated the City had thoroughly reviewed this on several occasions and had
PLYMOUTH DEYELOPMLNT COt1N It
October 28, 1987
Page four
concluded teat the 20% was ar, appropriate standard, tiariances, however,
have not been granted regularly and adjustments to Planned Unit Development
Plan are not eas\. He said that the standard tends to conflict with market
conditions where people do seek to have larger homes. He recounted the
history of the standard, noting that it was based upon the city's tvpical
minimum lot size of 18,500 sq. ft. (still the city conventional standard).
This preceded planned unit developments with smaller lots.
Fran Hagen recalled, however, that the City at one time had political
problems in allowing lots significantly smaller than 18,500 sq. ft. and that
today, one can find lots which are smaller. He suggested that the 20%
standard played a part in developing community acceptance of the smaller
lots.
Bob Burger stated that the real problem is includinq decks and covered
patios. He suggested that the Development Council pursue this again with
the City.
Blair Tremere responsed to a question from Bob Burger, stating that the
Development Council should draft its concern citing specific instances and
providing research so that the Planning Commission and Council can see what
alternatives there might be. He said that it's conceivable that one option
would be no standard, but that is not likely. While the 20% figure might
seem arbitrary, it does represent the standard that is reflected in the
physical layout of the residential neighborhoods. Bob Burqer commented that
ordinances and requirements from other cities would be helpful and Blair
Tremere responded that perhaps developers who work in other cities could get
a copy of those requirements so they could be analyzed.
Blair Tremere also recalled that th"e City Council had been firm in its find-
ing the last time this was discussed, and that a sound case needs to be
developed before concerns are identified as a major issue which does not
have a solution.
Bob Burger said that he may appoint a subcommittee to coordinate this and it
would be helpful for city staff to identify the number of times residents
come back to get permits for decks or patios after the home is built.
Marlin Grant indicated that the Minnesota Homebuilders are reviewing
ordinances of a number of communities and that this could be one of the
items they would check for.
In other business, Bob Burger stated that the Development Council committee
is still talking to the City Public Safety Department staff about fire
sprinkler ordinance changes. He said that Marlin Grant had provided some
additional information which was being reviewed. There will be another
meeting with the City on this matter and that he will keep Development
Council members informed.
Bob Burger stated that the next meeting will be in late January.
The meeting adjourned at 9:12 a.m.
Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
February 11, 1988, 7:00 p.m. (Note the early starting time.
AGENDA
1. Call to Order
(Introduction of new commissioner, Phyllis Hanson)
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Visitor Presentations
a. Athletic Associations.
b. Staff.
C. Others.
4. Report on Past Council Action
a. Final Payment - Parkers Lake Seed and Sod
b. Selected west site for community center in Plymouth Creek
Park
C. Approved 1988 Fee Schedule/Rental Policies
5. Unfinished Business
a. Park Usage/Cost Study Report Discussion - Athletic Assoc.
Representatives
b. Parkers Lake Update
C. Plymouth Creek Site Planning Update
d. 1987 Annual Report Approval
e. St. Mary's Neighborhood Park Update
f.
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6. New Business
a. Review Community Attitude Survey Results (mailed from
City Manager)
b. Discuss 1988 Park Tour
C. New Plats
d.
e.
7. Commission Presentation
8. Staff Communication
9. Adjournment
Next Meeting - March 10
League of Minnesota Cities
183 University Ave. East
St. Paul, MN 55101-2526
(612) 227.5600 (FAX: 221.0986)
1988 LMC/AMM LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 16
Program in brief
Location: St. Paul Radisson Hotel, Kellogg Boulevard
8:00 a.m. Registration
9:00 a.m. Opening General Session
OThe State of the Cities - 1988"
Cities' fiscal concerns will be examined in light of proposals
to overhaul the state's property tax system. City officials
will hear from state and legislative officials including
John Tomlinson, Commissioner of Revenue
Senator Douglas Johnson, Chairman, Senate Tax Committee
Representative Gordon Voss, Chairman, House Tax Committee
Representative William Schreiber, House Minority Leader
A panel of city officials will question both lawmakers and the
Commissioner of Revenue on their outlook on state -local fiscal
issues. Get your questions ready, too!
12 Noon Luncheon
"'Cities' Legislative Agenda in 1988N
Senator Roger Moe, Senate Majority Leader
Representative Robert Vanasek, Speaker of the House
1:30 p.m. Legislative Issue Briefings - Two Concurrent Sessions
Levy Limits/Local Government Aid
Tax Increment Financing
2:00 p.m. Small Group Strategy Sessions
City officials with a special interest in a particular issue will have
an opportunity to discuss lobbying strategy and involvement in efforts
to secure a favorable outcome for the issue at the legislature.
Veterans Preference
Optical Scan Voting Equipment
Wastewater Treatment Construction Supplemental Grants
Fiscal Disparities
Return of Excess 2% Police Aid to PERA
OVER
These informal discussions will put you in touch with League legislative
staff and fellow city officials to put together action plans aimed at
helping the League win the day for cities on these key local government
concerns.
3:00 p.m. City Day on the Hill
Shuttle buses will be available to take city officials to the Capitol
and return. Plan now to meet with your legislators and let them know
where cities stand (together!) on key legislative issues!
5:30 p.m. LMC/AMM RECEPTION FOR LEGISLATORS AND STATE OFFICIALS
Open to city officials registered for the conference and to state
lawmakers and appointed officials.
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
JANUARY 27, 1987
The R.eqular Meeting of the Plymouth Planninq Commission %Nas
called to order at 7:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Steigerwald, Commissioners
Stulberg, Zylla, Plufka, Marofsky and
Pauba
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Wire
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Director
Blair Tremere
Associate Planner Al Cottingham
Assistant City Engineer John Sweeney
Planning Secretary Grace Wineman
*CONSENT AGENDA
*PRIME DEVELOPMENT
MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner CORPORATION, REZONING
Stulberg to recommend adoption of the Consent Agenda. AND PRELIMINARY PLAT
(87123
VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
*MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner
Stulberg to approve the Minutes of January 13, 1988 with the
following corrections: Page 3, second paragraph, statement
by Commissioner Wire, rather than Commissioner Stulberg;
and, Page 5, typographical error, corrected as stated by
Planning Secretary.
VOTE. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Plufka abstained.
VOTE. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the request by the Plymouth
Historical Society. Reading of the January 12, 1988 staff
report was waived.
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Harvey Schiebe,
representing the Plymouth Historical Society. Mr. Schiebe
had no questions or comments.
Commissioner Pauba inquired about the location of the build-
ing on the site, it was explained it would be slightly to
the rear and south of the existing building.
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PLYMOUTH HISTORICAL
SOCIETY. SITE PLAN
At►D CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT (87101)
Page 15
Planning Commission Hinutes
3arIuar275, 195
Chairman Steigerwald opened the: Public H:-arino, as there Na
no one present to speak on this item, tht- Public Hearinq was
closed.
MOTION by Commissioner Zvila, seconded by Commissioner NOTION TO APPROVE
Marofskv to recommend approval of the Site Plan and
Conditional Use Permit for the Plymouth Historical Societe,
to allow the construction of a 24 x 36 ft, accessory storage
building, subject to the conditions listed in the January
12, 1988 staff report.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. HOTIOt1 carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the request h\ Richard RICHARD BROKKE
Brokke, Powell Lincoln Mercury for Site Plan and Conditional POWELL LINCOLN
Use Permit Amendment. Readinq_ of the ganuary 12, 1955 staff MERCURY. SITE PLAN
report was waived. AND CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AMENDMENT
Chairman Steiqerwald introduced Mr. Richard grokkf-, who had (87127)
no comments or concerns regardinq the staff report.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired if the petitioner would
oppose his sitting for this item, as he is counsel for
property interests of adjacent property. 11r. Rrokke stated
no.
Commissioner Marofksy inquired about the landscapinq. Mr.
Brokke stated that the bituminous parkinq area would be
installed to the perimeter of the pond; additional trees
will be placed around the pond to enhance the existing maple
trees.
Commissioner Pauba inquired if the site circulation was
working well; he noted that with the recent snowfall, there
seemed to be a need for snow removal to improve parkinq and
circulation on-site. Mr. Brokke stated that snow storaae
has impeded site circulation somewhat and plans are underway
for snow removal.
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearing, as there was
no one present to speak on the item, the Public Hearing was
closed.
MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by Commissioner MNOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg to recommend approval for the Site Plan and
Conditional Use Permit Amendment for Richard Brokke, Powell
Lincoln Mercury, to expand the parkinq and vehicle storaqe
lot, subject to the conditions as listed in the January 12,
1988 staff report.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Page 16
Planning Commission Minutes
January 27, 195
Chairman SteigerAald introduced the request h,, Pat Gnff .
Goff Homes, for "Fernbrook Manor", a plat for tA0 lots fur
multi -family dwellings and Cita park. An overvie�% of the
January 13, 1985 staff report vias prodded by Planner
Cottingham.
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Pat Goff, Goff Homes,
who discussed the background of the development. He stated
he has built comparable units on the north and east side of
St. Paul. He explained that the units %ill be marketed as
owner -occupied. The major market for these units will be
single career people, and so-called "empty -nesters", with
fewer family units, they estimate 4 children per 100
households. He stated that in their experience, this typr.
of homeowner would select this unit -style and would choose
to have passive parkland close -b%.
The units
are 9401 sq. ft. to 1,100
sq. ft.,
two-bedroom with
private entry. The homeowner can
qain entry
through the
garage.
The units have patios
and/or
decks and the
buildings
have aluminum and brick
siding.
Mr. Goff noted
their company
has been selected for
builder
a"ards.
Commissioner Marofsky inquired about the open land area to
be left in its natural state. Mr. Goff stated they plan
minimal grading and the area will have an open field
appearance. He stated the Parks and Recreation Department
recommended a walk%ati through the wooded area that will
connect to the City parkland.
Commissioner Marofsky suggested that the units could be
realigned to open up the development area. Mr. Goff stated
that the building layout is constrained b%, the 10% grade,
and by the area to the east which would require extensive
fill. He noted that further to the east is land in the
Post -1990 Service area. For these reasons, the building
Jay out is concentrated at the west end.
Commissioner Plufka inquired if it is the developer's intent
to leave the open area to the east in its natural, "wild"
state. Mr. Goff answered affirmatively. Commissioner
Plufka inquired if there would be a formal Homeowners
Association, and would they own this natural area. Mr. Goff
stated this would be the case. Commissioner Plufka stated
concern about maintenance for this area and explained the
enforcement of the City's weed ordinance. He suggested that
the developer submit something more definitive at the time
of final plat submittal, such as some seeding and grading of
the area.
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearing.
PAT GOFF, GOFF HOMES
PRELIMINARY PLAT AND
REZONING (87128)
Page 17
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January 27, 1951-
Mr.
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Mr. Joe Charboneau, 4415 Glacier Lane, stated h,,4tould have
no comments at this time.
Mr. Gary Dechaine, 4405 Clacier Lane, stated he would rather
see smaller buildings; he is not familiar Kith 6-plexes and
wondered about the price ranae.
Chairman Steigerwald explained that the developer is not
required to provide information regarding the cost of the
dwelling, but may give price estimates if he chooses to do
so. The City does not regulate selling price.
Mr. Dechaine asked if the developer could dive examples of
other areas where he has pro\ided similar housing; and, if
he would explain where these developments are located so
they could be viewed.
Mr. Jerry Lee Fischer, 4630 Ferribrook Lane, stated he is
tired of development in this area with its noise and
pollution. He believes the developer will need to do a lot
of cut and grade. He is concerned about drainage which may
have a negative impact on his property. Barriers should be
constructed between the proposed developmerit and his
property consisting of berm and trees for. screenina. He is
concerned that children from the proposed development will
enter his property and play in his children's play area. He
is concerned about additional traffic. This development
will not contribute to the quality of life; it is "log,
income housing" and is not compatible to the surrounding
neighborhoods.
Gayle Jones, 14300 45th Avenue North, voiced similar
concerns. She also did not understand ho\a the parkland
could be construed as a public park. She selected to live
in Plymouth because of its high standards; now it will be
crowded with so many units; she is opposed to the 6 -plea
buildings. She is concerned about the price range and how
it will affect the property values in the neighborhood.
Kingsview Heights is an attractive development and the
proposed 6-plex buildings are not compatible. She suggests
a reduction in density and smaller buildings.
Mr. Robert Sevey, pointed out the property he owns east of
45th Avenue North and Fernbrook Lane, near the development
site. He stated he has talked to the builder who indicated
the units would be in the $60,000 range. It is his opinion
this is "low income" housing arid, with rezoninq to R-3
(medium density multiple residence), the City has no control
over the quality of the homes. This proposal will affect
the property east of Fernbrook Lane; no one will want to
develop expensive housing because the proposed development
Paae 15
Planninq_ Commission Hinutes
Januar. 27, 195c)
that will set the tone and ha,, c, a negati��- impact ori tf�
values of all the homes in this area.
Mr. Sevey stated he has had offers on his property and has
turned them down. He doesn't want to develop his land at
this time. He asked the Commission to carefully consider
approval for a development which could "set the tone for love
income housing".
Chairman Steigerwald noted there are developments in the
City where townhomes and more expensive single family
dwellings co -exist in attractive planned unit developments.
Commissioner Plufka explained that the land use guiding for
the proposed development is LA -3 (high medium density
residential) to be rezoned to the appropriate zoning
designation of R-3 (medium density multiple residence)
District. The undeveloped property to the south is also
guided LA -3.
Discussion ensued regarding development alternatives within
this guiding and zoning designation, noting that development
of two-family homes to 12 -unit buildings are appropriate
within the R-3 zoning classification.
Mr. Dave Yunker, 4400 Glacier Lane, noted his special
concern regarding property values. He does not believe this
development plan fits into the neighborhood. He is
concerned with traffic and noise; arid, that the intersection
of Fernbrook Lane and County Road 9 is dangerous because of
the present traffic levels.
Chairman Steigerwald asked Mr. Goff to respond. Mr. Goff
stated that the cost of a unit would be approximately
$60,000. He reviewed the names and locations of develop-
ments they have completed that are similar to "Fernbrook
Manor".These are basically the same units and are open for
viewing.
In response to Mr. Fischer's concern about drainage and
transition, Mr. Goff stated they could propose cutting the
hilly area; maintain a 30 ft. setback from the north
property line; and, install berminq . He had no objection
to placing over -story trees for screening. The ponding, as
proposed, contains the drainage on-site.
Chairman Steiqerwald inquired if Mr. Goff could meet with
Mr. Fischer to resolve the concerns expressed. Mr. Coff
answered affirmatively.
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Planninq Commission t1iiiutes
January 27,
Commissioner Plufka inquirers if the herrn might upset th(,
drainage plan. Engineer S"eene% stated he "ould need to
review this to assure proper drainage maintenance and on-
site storage.
In response to the concern about public access to the City
park, Planner Cottingham explained the access from future
Berkshire Lane; and the trail planned from the cul-de-sac to
the park.
Mr. Robert Sevey inquired about the current access to his
property. Chairman Steigervvald inquired about the gradinq
plans to the south of the Sevey property. Mr. Goff
explained the area excluded from the gradinq plan; they will
cut away from that area: they will maintain a 3:1 slope;
and, a retaining wall will not be needed.
Mr. Sevey inquired if there would be some v+ay to prevent
people using the park from cominq onto his property.
Commissioner Plufka suggested he discuss this concern with
the Parks and Recreation Department and/or the Parks and
Recreation Advisory Commission.
Gayle Jones inquired about the nature of de\elopment around
those areas developed by Mr. Goff in St. Paul. Mr. Goff
stated that one development consistinq of manor homes, has a
roadway to the east; to the west is Department of Natural
Resources Protected Wetland; to the north are single family
residential dwellings; and, the price range of the single
family dwellings is up to $150,000. North of another, are
single famly homes; to the west are townhomes; to the south
there is open space and ponding; and, to the east are single
family homes.
Mr. Jerry Fischer stated he believes the City may have made
an error in Judgment concerning the land use guiding for
this area. He inquired how a "mistake like this could be
corrected." The City's Land Use Guide Plan was displayed
and discussion ensued regarding changes to the Plan; the
purpose of the Plan; and, the division of land uses with
buffering provided from major road%ays.
Director Tremere confirmed that the City's Land Use Guide
Plan was established in 1972, and was reviewed again ten
years later and found to be appropriate. Residents have
depended upon this information to ascertain future
development and have relied on the fact that development
will be consistent with the guidinq and zoninq.
Commissioner Zylla inquired if the topographical features of
the site dictate the layout. He believes the plan could be
more creative and would make the development more inviting.
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January 27, 19Y�,
Mr. Guff stated they are trvinn to stay away from apt
"'apartment -look" with this desiarl: they have broken up thc,
parkinq with the use of green space; the buildings are from
80 to 150 ft. apart; and, he believes the buildinq lavout to
provide the homeowner Aith a sense of privacy and selected
views from their units. Parking space availability and
orientation are important.
Discussion ensued regardinq residential developments under-
way near this site and the impact this development plan will
have on them.
Chairman Steigerwald stated that impacts upon property
values have been discussed with other development plans:
and, to his knowledqe, there has been no proof that nelti
development cause a decrease in the value of homes in the
area.
Commissioner Plufka noted the established neighborhoods
across I-494, where single family residential neighborhoods
flow into medium density residential areas, to the apart-
ments and condominiums which provide the buffer from high
traffic areas.
Chairman Steigerwald closed the Public Hearinq.
Commissioner Plufka stated concern with the lack of privacy
for adjacent properties; and, that a requirement for berminq
and transition be confirmed. Chairman Steiqerwald noted
that the berminq and landscaping plans for such areas as
"Chelsea Woods" creates a good-looking neighborhood. He is
also concerned about the larqe expanse of that property
which has no definitive plan and which may become trouble-
some to maintain.
Commissioner Marofsky agreed, and noted that the City, as
well as the residents of this development, deserve some
amenities.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner
Pauba to recommend approval for the Preliminary Plat and
Rezoning for Pat Goff, Goff Homes, subject to the conditions
as listed in the January 13, 1988 staff report.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that, at the final planning
stages, he would be looking for, and would want to be able
to review, those items discussed tonight such as: Berming
and screening; a plan for the open space; arid, more creativ-
ity in site design and building layout.
Commissioner Zylla was concerned that, with approval of the
general development plan and preliminary plat, they were
"buying into the building locations".
MOTION TO APPROVE
Paqe 21
Planning Commission Minutes
January 27, 1988
Planner Cottingham explained that plans would provide more
detail with the required Site Plan and Conditional Use
Permit applications for this development proposal.
MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO TABLE
Zylla, to table this item with direction that the applicant
provide those revisions and modifications to the plan, as
discussed, prior to approval of the preliminary plat.
Commissioner Zylla explained that his second relates to his
desire that the petitioner address the building layout prior
to Site Plan review.
Mr. Goff stated that he has acquired the services of
professional engineers and architects in the preparation of
the site layout and the landscape plans. They have provided
a layout that is appropriate for this site and for the
topography of the site. The development plan retains the
timbered area to the east; the open area can be maintained
in a natural state; the pads will allow an easy lifestyle
for the homeowners. The building layout takes advantage of
the topography of the site. The use of berming and
over -story trees will provide transition and screening.
Chairman Steigerwald stated the Commission will expect the
petitioner to provide throuqh-sections for their review of
the formal site plan. Commissioner Marofsky concurred,
adding that a detailed landscape and grading plan should be
provided; and, revised plans should reflect the direction
from Commission regarding site desiqn (utilization of the
open area and better building layout).
Roll Call Vote on MOTION to Table this item. VOTE - MOTION TO
TABLE
5 Nays. Commissioner Plufka, Aye. MOTION fails. MOTION FAILS
Director Tremere explained that the Conditional Use Permit
to be considered with the Site Plan requires a Public
Hearing so that property owners will be notified at the time
more detailed plans are submitted for review.
Roll Call Vote on the Main Motion. 5 Ayes. Commissioner VOTE - MAIN MOTION
Plufka, Nay. MOTION carried. MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Steigerwald called a 5 -minute Recess at 8:55 P.M. RECESS
Pape 22
Planning Commission Minutes
January 27, 1988
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the request by Beverly
Kottas, H.I. Enterprises, Inc. Reading of the January 15,
1988 staff report was waived.
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Linda Fisher, Attorney,
representing the applicant. Ms. Fisher presented copies of
an Outline Summary of the applicant's presentation; and, an
Outline of the Barton-Aschman traffic presentation. These
were made part of the record of the proceedings.
Ms. Fisher explained this would be a two-part presentation
with Mr. Ron Jackson, Barton-Aschman, presentinq traffic
information.
Ms. Fisher provided the background for the application; that
the principals are Plymouth residents; they own two busines-
ses in Golden Valley and seek this Amendment so they may
have a similar business in Plymouth. She assured they would
provide long-term ownership. She explained a previous
General Development Plan from the 19701s; noting that though
this is not a forum for discussion of a development plan, it
is important for the Commission to know that the petitioner
would propose the development of a convenience store with
gasoline and automobile tire and service center., if the
request for reguidinq is deemed appropriate. She explained
this business would be a 17 -hour operation. Ms. Fisher
emphasized that the applicants are not speculators, they
believe the reguidinq of this property has merit for the
community.
Ms. Fisher reviewed the land uses in the area, notina that
the development factors are important to this discussion.
Analysis of the area should be done on a case-by-case
basis. She stated that an office "gateway" has not occurred
here, and, the area is not conducive to this; the area does
show a mix of use and the applicant believes this site is
appropriate for their business; and, that their business
would compliment the community structure and would add to
the grouping of businesses already in the area.
Ms. Fisher, having reviewed the traffic studies for this
area, believes there is no notable impact to the City's
roadway system, which has been the main concern expressed by
City staff. She introduced Mr. Ron Jackson, Barton-Aschman
Associates, Inc.
Mr. Jackson described traffic studies done in May, 1987,
November, 1987; and, December, 1987. Their studies
reflect no major impact to the intersection; and, the City's
traffic consultant pointed out that there was no impact to
"peak" traffic hours.
BEVERLY KOTTAS
H.I. ENTERPRISES
LAND USE GUIDE PLAN
AMENDMENT (87125 )
Page 23
Planning Commission► Minutes
January 27, 1955
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearinq, as there v%as
no one present to speak on this item, the Public Hearinq ►vas
closed.
Chairman Steigerwald noted that similar requests have been
turned down by City Council; that these services are
available in other areas near this site. However, he
believes the site would provide convenience residents of
multi -family and apartment dwellings nearby.
He commented on a draft Community Survey that was recently
completed showing that 70% of the respondents answered "no"
when asked whether there should be priority placed upon
development of more "convenience centers". However, this
response may have meant that they wanted no such facility
"near their homes".
MOTION by Chairman Steigerwald, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APRPOVE
Zylla, to recommend approval for the Land Use Guide Plan
Amendment to reclassify CL (limited business) to CS (service
business), subject to the conditions listed in the January
15, 1985 staff report.
Commissioner Marofsky noted the types of businesses in the
area; that some are similar uses to that which is proposed
by this applicant; but the proposed use is not permitted,
even as a conditional use in what v%ould be the existing
zoning district.
The traffic analysis reflects not only traffic generated
from this site; but from other sites as they develop; and,
that the reference to "six times the traffic", addresses
these sites if they should develop under a service business
classification, rather than a limited business
classification. Other sites are available for this use; and
he does not believe the applicant has shown that this site
cannot develop under the CL guiding.
Commissioner Zylla stated he appreciated the arguments made
by the petitioner that the Land Use Guide Plan is not
"absolute"; that there is a need for these services in this
area of Plymouth; and, that there is a major deficiency of
service/retail in the City. However, his concern would be
to make sure that approvals would not be granted for a Class
II restaurant on this site, now, or in the future and that
there would be controls in place to prevent this from ever
happening.
Commissioner Zylla concurs that the City's systems would not
be compromised by this reguiding proposal.
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Planninq_ Commission Minutes
Oanuary 27, 1955
The Commission discussed a curb cut to Fernbrook Lane; and
the petitioner agreed to the access as a richt-in onl\, from
Fernbrook Lane.
Commissioner Stulberg stated he does not support the Motion;
the site could develop under present guiding and zoning;
there are other areas in the City which could accommodate
this use; and, the reguiding here could have an impact upon
the vacant sites in the area. He questioned whether there
is merit to the proposal beyond the interest of the
petitioner.
Chairman Steigerwald stated that the concern about precedent
should not be a primary reason for denial since impact upon
area sites would be up to future Commissions and Councils.
He commented that the petitioner is responsive to the traf-
fic concern regardinq access from Fernbrook Lane; and, with
regard to the concern about overall traffic, consideration
should be given to the trips made by area apartment dwellers
who seek and use services such as those proposed.
Commissioner Pluf ka stated
concerned about precedent.
the proposed district could
on adjacent sites if they
result of the precedent set
that the Commission should be
Further, other uses allowed in
eventually go on this site, or
were also reclassified as the
by this action.
He said he could not support
should be considered with the
the land, not with a specific
Commissioner
under current
it should be
the Motion; that any reguiding
realization that it goes with
use.
Pauba concurred. The property can
guiding. If any reguiding is t
on an area basis and not just for
be developed
0 occur, then
one parcel.
Director Tremere stated that staff's concern is that any
reguiding be undertaken in a deliberate and comprehensive
manner. The relevance of other available sites is that the
community planning does provide for facilities such as that
proposed by this petitioner, throughout the City. The
apparent lack of such facilities is primarily an economic
function which is not the result of the Land Use Guide
Plan.
He said the focus should be on
presents the highest and best
He reaffirmed Commissioner's
the property were reguided and
met the design standards of
there. The only way to tie a
whether the proposed guiding
use for this site and area.
Plufka's statement that once
zoned, any allowable use that
the Ordinance could locate
specific land use to a parcel
Page 25
Planning Commission Minutes
January 27, 198
within the current zoning/legal structure would be for the
fee owner to place a covenant on the property limiting the
land use.
Chairman Steiqerwald read the letter from Perkins Restaur-
ants, a neighboring land owner, who supported the request.
There was continued discussion concerning traffic qeneration
and the other sites throughout the City which could accom-
modate this use. Director Tremere commented that the pro-
posed use would generate a level of new trips and even if
the percentage seems relatively low, the additional traffic
from this site and potentially from area sites, if also
reguided in the future, would be detrimental. The traffic
consideration should not be the sole determinant of the
proposed amendment.
He said that staff does not question the petitioner's
ability to operate a successful and desirable service
business. The City made a conscious planninq decision which
has kept such land uses from the northwest quadrant of I-494
and Highway 55; the lack of such service facilities in this
area is not due to an oversight or to neglect of community
needs.
Ms. Linda Fisher stated her client indicated they would be
amenable to covenants which would prohibit certain land
uses, such as Class II restaurants; and, that the right -in
only access from Fernbrook Lane was acceptable.
She doubted that the reguidinq would result in an
undesirable precedent and would not necessarily obligate the
City to reguide other land in the area.
MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by Commissioner
Marofsky to Amend the Main Motion to specify that, the
reguiding is conditioned upon the following considerations
which must be satisfied within the indicated time frame:
a.) Covenants limiting land uses
proposed, and to those B-3
allowed in the B-1 District;
b.) Access from Fernbrook Lane
right -in only; and,
c.) hours of operation shall
indicated.
to only the B-3 uses
uses which are also
should be limited to
be limited to those
Discussion ensued regarding the Amendment. Chairman
Steiq_erwald said that the matters of access and hours were
more appropriately considered at Site Pian review.
NOTION TO AMEND
Page 26
Planninq Commission Minutes
January 27, 1985
Roll Call Vote on Amendment. 6 Ayes. MOT1011 carried. VOTE ON AMENDMENT
MOTION CARRIED
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion as Amended. Commissioners VOTE - MAIN MOTION
Stulberg, Pauba, Marofsky, and Plufka, Nay. Commissioner MOTION FAILED
Zylla and Chairman Steigerwald, Aye. MOTION failed.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner NOTION TO DENY
Stulberg to recommend denial of the Land Use Guide Plan
Amendment for Reasons Nos. 1 - 4 and No. 6 cited in the
January 15, 1988 staff report.
Roll Call Vote. Commissioners Stulberg, Pauba, Marofsky, VOTE - MOTION TO DENY
and Plufka, Aye. Commissioner. Zylla and Chairman MOTION CARRIED
Steigerwald, Nay. MOTION carried.
Commissioner Plufka stated that if there were to be a
reguiding in this area, the City should study this quadrant
as to whether CS guiding is appropriate and what the impact
of the traffic generation from the area would be.
NEW BUSINESS
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the request by 1501 Partner- 1501 PARTNERSHIP
ship for a Site Plan and Variance. Readinq of the January SITE PLAN AND
13, 1988 staff report was waived. VARIANCE (87132)
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Bruce Schmitt, Architect,
representing the petitioner. He had no questions or
comments.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Chairman MOTION TO APPROVE
Steigerwald to recommend approval for the Site Plan and
Variance to construct a 13,920 sq. ft. office building,
subject to the conditions as listed in the January 13, 1988
staff report.
VOTE. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Marofsky, abstained. MOTION VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
*PRIME DEVELOPMENT
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner CORPORATION
Stulberg to recommend approval, subject to the conditions REZONING AND
listed in the January 20, 1988 staff report. PRELIMINARY PLAT
(87123)
MOTION TO APPROVE
Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. 'VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
s
• Page 27
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January 27, 1985
OTHER PAJSINESS
The Commission discussed the Board of Zoning Adustments and
Appeals request for their review of the variance from the
maximum size of free standino_ signs at the "Crown
Auto/Wash-Me-Carwash" site, 11040 Highway 55.
It was the consensus of the Commission to reaffirm the
intent of the approving Resolution that states, any signage
shall be in compliance with the Ordinance standards; and,
to recommend that the Variance request should be denied.
The maximum allowed signage could be shared; any hardship
was not created by the Ordinance, and the site, with more
than one tenant, is not unique.
The Commission paid special homage to Chairman Paul
Steigerwald who was chairinq his final Planning Commission
meeting. Chairman Steigerwald had served on the Planning
Commission since 1979.
,An -IM 1RNF+FNT
The meeting adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
ST. PAUL DISTRICT. CORPS OF ENGINEERS
+� 1135 U.S POST OFFICE 8 CUS70M HOUSE
ST PAUL, MINNESOTA 55101-147"s
IN
11EPLv TO
ATTENTION OF
Construction -operations _ .
Regulatory Functions5, - c �
We are enclosing for your information correspondence we
received as a result of our public notice that described your
project.
It is our policy to give you -the opportunity to offer us your
proposed resolution or rebuttal of these comments. You need not
make any response. However, aay response should be sent to this
office so that potential resolutions or rebuttals can be considered
in our final evaluation. If we receive no response within 15 days
of this letter, we will presume that no response is intended.
In the interim, we will continue to process your application.
If you have any questions, please write or callI ,I ei, r��,�
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Enclosures Ben A. Wopat
Chief, Regulatory Functions Branch
L"Y jr Construction -Operations Division
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Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
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January 26, 1988
Mr. Ben Wopat
Regulatory Functions Branch
St. Paul District, L.S. Army Corps of Engineers
1135 U.S. Post Office & Custom house
St. Paul, Minnesota 55101
Dear Mr. Wopat:
RE: NCSCO-RF (87-1154-23)
City of Plymouth
Wetland No. 27-105W, Hennepin County
Expiration Date: January 25, 198c
This letter is submitted by the Minnesota Pollution Contrcl Agency (MPCA;
under authority of Section 401 of the Clean Water Act (33 USC 1251 et seq.)
and State Statutes Chapters 115 and 116. The referenced project involves
filling approximately 54,000 cubic yards of material for commercial and
residential development.
The MPCA will waive certification, of the reference project provided it is
conducted in accordance with applicable requirements of state and federal
law. However, there are several issues which the Corps must address prior
to the issuance of their permits. Clearly the project is not water
dependent. Although considerable amount of information has been provided in
the public notice regarding the need for the project, it is not clear from
this information whether there are feasible and prudent alternatives.
Further, it is not clear that the proposed mitigation in any way offsets the
5.15 acres of proposed fill. From the information in the public notice, we
are not convinced that a true picture of costs and benefits of the project
have been developed.
We request that the Corps consider the following:
^1. The City should examined other options for the use of this property
including its use as a park or wildlife area.
2. Other potential development options, such as additional commercial
development instead of the firehouse should be examined. These options
would probably have a more substantial return for the City.
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3. The existing value of the area to be filled should be calculated. The
site already serves functions such as floocplain storage. Calculable
damages could result downstream if the area is filled.
4. The City should estimate the cost to be incurred for sewer, water arO
other utilities. Fy leaving the area unfilled, these costs could be
avoided.
This action does not exempt the applicant from, the responsibility of
complying with all applica�le local, state and federal requirements nor does
it grant any right to violate personal or property rights.
If you have any questions, please contact Mr. Louis Flynn of rry staff at
(612) 297-3364.
Since
d
r is J. S r P.E.
Chief, Pr gram Development Section
Division of Water Quality
CJS : jms
cc: Mr. Ron Nargang , Director, Division of Waters, MDNP.
Mr. Robert F. Welford, U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service
Mr. Elmer Shannon, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Chicago
DEPARTMENT : Natural Resources - Wildlife-
DATE
ildlife
DATE : January 20 , 1988
To Kent Lokkesmoe
Regional Hti-drologist
77
FROM Tim Wallace f..-,. i -V/
Asst. Area Wildlife M r ger
PHONE : 296-5200
TATE OF MINNESOTA
office Memorandum
R1 ZJVZ0
pari e- � t9,
REGION VI
WATERS
SUBJECT: U.S. Army Corps Permit CENCS-CO-RF (87-1154-23) Dunkirk
Meadows.
After reviewing this perllllt app Iica-Lion to place fill
for residential housing in the existing wetland, I have
to object due to the negative impact on wildlife habitat
and populations.
Solving the City of Plymouth's monitory problems by filling
wetlands will only be a short-term solution which, the
long range impacts to the environment and wildlife habitat
are permanent. This would set further bad precedent and
shows a lack of concern for future problems created by
this supposedly easy solution.
The negative impacts on wildlife include but are not limited
to:
1. Direct loss of wildlife habitat.
2. Increased fluctuation of water levels in the basin
due to decreased size of the basin and increased
areas of run-off (streets, roofs, lawns, etc.).
3. Lower water quality due to contaminants from streets
and lawns (oils, salt, fertilizer, herbicide,
etc.).
4. Decreased flood protectio-� for wildlife land
downstream (decreased storm water storage capacity).
Also the cities contention that mitigation for damages
has already done seems to be a convenient way to escape
all environmental cost of their proposal and should not
be considered as an alternative.
The best course of action from the environmental and wild-
life standpoint would be to deny this permit.
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RECEIVED
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REGULATORY FUNCTIONS
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PHONENO 296-7523 1200 VARN R ROAL, ST. Ph�J- 55106-
January 25, 1985
Henrik Strandskov
USCOF, Regulatory FunctionE
1135 U. S. Post Office & Custor. House
St. Paul, XN 55101-1479
Dear �randskov:
RE: CENCS—CO—RF (8 / -1 154-2 3) , CITY OF PLYMOUTH, DNR
Enclosed are the co=,,erits of the DIFF. Section of Wildlife.
As you are aware, the project impactE the outer fringe of a State
Protected Wetland `27-105k. Several vears ago, as part of a court
case the City was involved ir_, the DNE established ar ordinary high
water level (OHW) of 993.7 NGVD, 1929. Any fill shown belot, the OHS,'
would be prohibited under DNR regulations.. An, mitigation
requirements which would alter the wetland below the Ohi; would require
a DNR permit.
Thank you the opportunity to comment. Please cavi if you have ark'
questions.
Sincere] y,
Ju y B dreau
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METRO REGION DIVISION OF WATERS
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ARMY COP.P PERMIT CENCS-(X)-RF (87 -1154 -23)'-
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I have re�-iewed this applia_7 tion the Cite: of F' 1�
proposes• to discharge fill adjacent to state protected wetland 27 -10_, -
in order to make the fill site s :itaule for develop --,fent.
The area proposes for f ilIin, � is a portion of the we` - mr
lands co' e :
associated with the protecte - ba -sir -1. 'Leis cm.plEx pra-ides importa.:t
habitat for wildlife species suc?-i as fox, weasel, pheasants, hero:-,--,
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are va? uable as ground water recharge areas anti floock.,-ater retentior.
areas. Considering the continuing loss of such wetlands in the Hennei:ir.
Counter area and the norr- ate da--p_=n5ent nature of the project I
suggest that a per .it not be issues for td -i& propcsed work. Ile cit_ --E
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January 26, 1988 PUMOUTR
Ms. Shari French
3600 Ximinies Lane
Plymouth, MN 55441
SUBJECT; YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT SNOWMOBILES
Dear Ms. French:
Thank you for sharing your concerns with me the other day. As a result of
our telephone conversation, I have written the attached letter to Mr.
Wilson, asking him to alert Homeowner Association members about the City's
requirements with respect to snowmobiles. We have previously sent a similar
letter to Homeowner Association Presidents, but Mr. Wilson was not on the
distribution list.
As you know, many Plymouth residents like the fact that we are a "city in a
country setting." Some residents take advantage of country type recreation
opportunities such as snowmobiling. Sometimes, those people act with little
regard to the property of others. The City Council has discussed this
matter and decided at this point that the best course of action is to seek
voluntary cooperation with snowmobilers and their clubs prior to considering
a blanket restriction or prohibition against snowmobiles.
As I mentioned over the phone, the best way to stop damage to your property
is to call the Plymouth Public Safety Department if you observe
snowmobilers. Try to get as much identifying information as possible,
including type, color, etc., of snowmobile and the registration numbers, and
we will be better able to locate the responsible persons with this data.
I am hopeful that we can improve the level of compliance through cooperative
means. Our only alternative will be to consider mandatory restrictions or
prohibitions at some future date.
Thank you for calling.
Sincerely,
f
Virgil Schneider
Mayor
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD. PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447. TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
January 27, 1988
Mr. Paul Wilson, President
PHEASANT HILLS HOA
10920 - 38th Avenue North
Plymouth, MN 55441
SUBJECT: SNOWMOBILE COMPLAINTS
Dear Mr. Wilson:
`11Y OF
PUMOUTR
I have recently received complaints from within your Homeowners Association
about snowmobiles trespassing on private property and destroying new lawns
and shrubs. The City Council's position is to seek cooperative compliance
by snowmobilers, rather than to mandate a restriction or prohibition against
snowmobiles in the community.
Please help me in our effort to solicit cooperation by passing along the
attached brochures on snowmobiling regulations to homeowners association
residents who may be snowmobilers themselves or know snowmobilers in the
area.
Word of mouth is the most effective means to convey this information. We
have also sent a general letter to all homeowners association presidents,
made announcements on cable television and included articles in the local
newspapers.
Please Join me in encouraging voluntary compliance with Plymouth's current
snowmobile requirements. If these measures do not succeed, we will have no
alternative but to entertain mandatory restrictions or prohibitions on
snowmobiling. I would prefer to avoid such action if possible.
Thank you for your assistance!
Sincerely,
Virgil Schneider
Mayor
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cc: Dick Carlquist
James G. Willis
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447. TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
CITY U�
February 1, 1988 PLYMOUTR
Mr. Paul Jarzembinski
3760 Pilgrim Lane
Plymouth, MN 55441
SUBJECT: YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT BOBCAT SPEED AND FENCEPOST DAMAGE
Dear Mr. Jarzembinski:
Following our phone call, I referred your concerns to Tom Vetsch, the City's
Street Supervisor. He has provided me with the following information.
Concern 1:
The Plymouth skid -steer loader was operating at an excessive speed
along the Pilgrim Lane sidewalk.
For the last 10 years, the City has had an aggressive employee safety
program. We are continually working to balance productivity with
safety in our day to day work operations. Our insurance records show
that we have done an effective job in each case.
The basis for our good record is that Plymouth employees generally
share an abiding concern for the safety of themselves and the equipment
they operate. Tom Vetsch has discussed your concern with the driver
involved. You can be assured that the driver is sensitive to your
concern and will continue to exercise care and caution in his operation
of City equipment.
Concern 2:
The bobcat damaged your fencepost adjacent to the sidewalk.
Tom Vetsch has discussed this matter with you. It does appear that the
City bobcat nicked the post, causing a longitudinal break. Tom has
advised me that this spring they will be replacing the post for you
since it is on your property and not within City right-of-way.
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH. MINNESOTA 55414'. TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
Mr. Paul garzembinski
February 1, 1988
Page 2
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience we may have caused. Our
objectives is to provide the best possible public services in the most
effective, efficient and safe fashion.
Sincerely,
Virgil Schneider
Mayor
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cc: Tom Vetsch, Street Supervisor
Games G. Willis, City Manager
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
• 3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE: January 26, 1988
TO: Jim Kolstad, Public Works Superintendent
FROM: Frank Boyles, Assistant City Manager
SUBJECT COMPLAINT FROM PAUL JARZEMBINSKI, 3760 PILGRIM LANE WITH RESPECT TO
FRONT END LOADER
On Friday, January 22, I received a telephone call from Mr. Jarzembinski.
He has two concerns:
1. On January 21, 1988 at 8:00 a.m., he observed a skid --steer loader
clearing snow or driving down the sidewalk in front of his home at
3760 Pilgrim Lane. He believes loader was traveling at an
excessive speed. His concern is for children who may be utilizing
the sidewalk or playing in the area.
2. He is also concerned about a post being knocked down by the
skid -steer loader on his property and is requesting replacement
thereof.
Would you please investigate both allegations with the operator and
operator's supervisor and provide me with a complete report no later than
Monday, February 1 so I can communicate your findings with the resident.
You may wish to handle the post as a mailbox type complaint and use that
policy. To talk to Mr. Jarzembinski, call 546-5867 or at work at 481-1842.
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cc: Fred Moore
Virgil Schneider
S.F. 2/1/88
City Council
January 29, 1988
Mr. Randy Nord, President
KINGSVIEW HEIGHTS HOA
4420 Harbor Lane
Plymouth, MN 55446
SUBJECT: KINGSVIEW HEIGHTS QUESTIONS
Dear Randy:
Thank you for inviting me to your homeowner association meeting to discuss
your concern. At that meeting, a number of questions arose which required
additional research. Our Planning and Community Development Department has
provided me with the information you requested.
Shown below are your questions and the information we have obtained:
1. How many dollars are left in the bond or financial guarantee for
Kingsview Heights?
First Addition - $ 20016
Second addition - $150,558 public, plus $36,235 private
2. For what purpose or purposes are the bonds being retained?
First Addition
The $2,016 retained for the First Addition includes the following
public work:
$1.,500 for boulevard and drainage Swale sod
$300 for street signs
$216 for design, administration, inspection and as-builts,
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
Mr. Randy Nord
January 29, 1988
Page 2
Second Addition
The $150,558 is retained to guarantee the following public work:
$2,100 for street signs
$1,091 for park and trail improvements
$147,267 for design, administration, inspection and as -built
drawings
The $36,235 being retained is for private work, including:
$30,000 for boulevard and drainage swale sod
$2,353 for park and trail improvements
$3,882 for design, administration, inspection and as-builts
I have attached the most recent bond release resolutions for your
information.
3. Are the jointly -owned amenities bonded?
Yes, the remaining bonds cover installation of both public
and private park and trail improvements and private boulevard
and drainage swale sod.
4. Does the City expect Harstad to request an additional release in
the near future? If so, for what?
We cannot know precisely, but we would expect an additional
request this spring or summer for work completed at that
point. We do not know what work will be undertaken, although
we expect the developer to push for development completion.
5. Provide the names of one or two other homeowners associations that
own common land, but are also single-family developments under the
PUD ordinance. How is the question of insurance and maintenance
handled?
Our Community Development Director has reviewed the files and
does not find other in place homeowner associations which are
directly comparable to you. There are several projects under
construction; Harrison Hills Association may be of
assistance. Almost any homeowner association should be able
to assist you on these matters as common areas are similar
regardless of housing design. You may also wish to contact a
Randy Nord
January 29, 1988
Page 3
developer such as Lundgren Brothers who may have additional
information on this subject. They have had experience with
associations in single family developments. You may want to
contact Peter Pflaum at 473-1231 for further information.
An attorney or insurance agent may assist you with this.
I believe that these are all of the questions for which additional
information was requested.
Unfortunately, I will be out of town on February 16, the date of your next
meeting. I have asked Deputy Mayor Jerry Sisk to attend in my absence.
Would you please contact Jerry at 473-0573 or 861-7868 about a week prior to
the meeting to confirm the date, time and location.
If I can be of any other assistance, please let me know.
Sincerely,
V gil Schneider
Mayor
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Mayor Virgil Schneider
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mayor Schneider:
TTI
The Minneapolis Glass Company, located in the city of Plymouth, was the glass
and glazing contractor for the new Advance Machine Company office and warehouse
building, also in Plymouth.
In the interior of the building, a glass stair rail was instal -led. It origin-
ally had a 22" top rail that Mr. Joe Ryan of your building department would not
okay. It was stated that the Uniform Building Code (T-T.B.C.) that the State of
Minnesota goes by, requires not more than a 2" top rail for stairs. Fxceptions
can be made by individual city building departments if situations warrant.
It was pointed out to Mr. Ryan that numerous large office buildings in the city
of Minneapolis and surrounding suburbs have been allowed to use the 22" rail.
It was also brought to Mr. Ryan's attention that the wood rail at the Plymouth
City Hall is 3" and does not meet State requirements.
The changing of the top rail was forced upon Minneapolis Glass as an occupancy
permit would have been declined unless we assured 1.7r. Ryan that it would be
done. The cost of this was $5,638.00 in time and material.
I have talked to many contractors doing work in the city of Plymouth and all
have stated that the building inspectors are by far the most unreasonable to
work with in our seven county area. They must increase their cost of doing
work in Plymouth as they know problems will materialize with the building inspec-
tors. The contractors are not here today, gone tomorrow business people. They
have been around for well over 20 or 30 years, as we at Minneapolis Glass have.
It is unfortunate that some individuals have to do everything by the book and
take advantage of the authority that goes with the office they represent.
I realize this letter will do nothing to rectify the past but maybe it can help
others in the future,
;y
Sincerely, ,
Ery Lichten
Past President
MINNEAPOLIS GLASS COMPANY
14600 28th AVE. NORTH • PLYMOUTH. MINNESOTA 55441 • 559-0635
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE: February 4, 1988
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TO: City Manager James G. Willis
FROM: Community Development Director Blair Tremere '
SUBJECT JANUARY 28, 1988 LETTER FROM MR. ERV LICHTEN, MINNEAPOLIS GLASS COMPANY
I reviewed this letter to the Mayor regarding Mr. Lichten's concerns about construction
of a stair rail at the Advance Machine Company office building last year.
I have reviewed the history of events regarding that matter and conclude that Building
Official Joe Ryan was not rigid in his interpretation of the Code and authorized extra-
ordinary extensions of time to complete the work which was agreed upon by Advance
Machine and their architects. It appears that Mr. Lichten and his company elected to
install a product which not only failed to meet the Building Code requirements, but
also was inconsistent with the plans submitted by Advance Machine's architect.
I was personally involved last summer when I received calls from two officials at
Advance Machine who wanted to know if they could discuss possible alternatives. This
was done and Joe Ryan did authorize an alternative which met the intent of the Code.
Further, following a meeting with Mr. Lichten, Joe Ryan invited them to obtain written
verification from the State Building Code Division about hand rail design. They did
not do that. Joe Ryan wrote to the State himself and received a written opinion
regarding the intent of the Code and whether the specific design proposed would meet
that intent. The State Building Code Division specifically advised that the proposed
design by Minneapolis Glass Company would not meet the intent of the Code.
Finally, we have not been able to independently verify where any other community has
knowingly approved hand rails of the design referred to by Mr. Lichten.
In my view, the key consideration here is that Advance Machine, the ultimate customer,
and their professional registered architect called for a design which was approved by
the City; likewise, they called for a revision to the original design and that was
approved by the City; the problem is that the contractor did not install what the
approved plan specified. The Building Official was not in a position to approve a
design inconsistent with the Code after the mistaken installation had been made. The
communications with Advance Machine indicate they understood that and it appears that
they held the contractor, Minneapolis Glass Company, accountable.
I have attempted to call Mr. Lichten to discuss this matter with him and I will forward
any further findings as they develop.
Attarhments
Background Information from Building Official Joe Ryan
February 3, 1988
MEMO to FILE
SUBJECT: 14600 21st Avenue North (Chronology of Events)
August 29, 1985.
The plan review letter from Assistant Building Official Scott McLellan for the
Advanced Machine Company addition, references in Item #8, that the proposed solid oak
handrail serving one of the stairways must be re -designed in order to provide an
acceptable gripping surface. (Attached)
September 26, 1985.
Letter from John Bejblik, Architect, for Pope Associates in response to plan review
for Advance Machine Company addition, states in Item #8, that oak handrails have been
deleted, and that 1 1/2 inch diameter steel pipe rails have been substituted. Mr.
Bejblik makes reference that the change will be shown on Phase II revised drawings.
(Attached)
January/February 1987.
The Building Permit application for the Phase II office construction is submitted to
our Department for review. The building plans make reference that the stairway by
the front lobby is to have a glass handrail with wood cap, 1 1/2 inches in diameter.
(Attached)
February 11, 1987.
Scott makes reference in his plan review letter to Pope Associates, on Item #36, to
provide a detail of "woodcap" handrail to be used with the glazed ballister stairway
area. (Attached)
February 13, 1987.
Our office received a letter from John Bejblik, of Pope Associates, stating in Item
#3, that the wood rail cap at glazed rail will be 1 1/2 inch diameter hardwood, and
be will installed as per UBC Sections 1711 and 3306. This was approved. (Attached)
Building permit issued on February 23, 1987.
June 1987.
During the course of a mechanical inspection, Mike Kulczyk noticed a handrail in a
cardboard box, on the floor adjacent to the lobby stairway. Mike measured the
handrail and found it was 2 1/2 inches in cross sectional dimension, which was in
excess of the two (2) inch maximum dimension required by code. Mike conveyed this
information to the job superintendent and informed him that the handrail would not be
permitted for use.
Later this month, Mike was scheduled to perform a building final inspection. During
the inspection, he noted that the 2 1/2 inch handrail had been installed on the
stairway adjacent to the lobby. A Correction Notice was issued.
Shortly after Mike's inspection, I disucssed the handrail issue with both Ron Ray of
Advance Machine and Ery Lichten of Mpls Glass Company, the subcontractor. During one
of our conversations, Mr. Lichten informed me that he had verbally contacted a person
at the State
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Building Code Division, who said the 2 1/2 inch installed, satisfied the intent of
the Code. I informed Mr. Lichten that if I were to receive written documentation
from the State to that effect, I would accept the handrail installation. It was also
agreed upon that the handrail installed would be removed and replaced with the one
conforming to the provisions of the Code, if determined by the State Building Code
Division that the existing handrail did not satisfy the Code requirments.
June 26, 1987.
I mailed a letter to the State Building Codes and Standards Division, requesting a
written interpretation of the Code, regarding the handrail installed at Advance
Machine, to see if it complied with the intent of the Code; by having a shape -which
will provide an equivalent gripping surface. (Attached)
June 30, 1987.
I received a letter from Al Kleinbeck, of the State Code Division, stating that the
handrail installed does not comply with the intent of the Code; the Code is specific
in stating that the hand grip portion of the handrail shall not be less than 1 1/4
inches, nor more than two (2) inches in cross sectional dimension, or the shape shall
provide an equivalent gripping surface. Al further stated that there are a number of
stock shapes available in the market place which are more than two (2) inches in a
single dimension, that provide an equivalent gripping surface; however, an enlarged
circle as proposed by the Mpls. Glass Company is not a shape permitted. (Attached)
July 7, 1987.
Our office received a letter from Ron Ray of Advance Machine, which stated in part
that a new two (2) inch in diameter handrail would be installed at the facility by
August 17, 1987.
July 16, 1987.
I mailed a letter to Ron Ray and enclosed, per his request, a Temporary Certificate
of Occupancy for the office expansion, subject to completion and correction two
items, on or before, August 17, 1987. One of the items was to replace the handrail
with the new two (2) inch diameter top rail. (Attached)
August 26, 1987
I mailed a letter to Ron Ray informing him, that as of this date, the new handrail he
had proposed had not been installed, and we would reinspect the property on September
1, 1987 to insure compliance. (Attached)
After September 1, 1987.
The new handrail was installed, and our office approved the final building inspection
for the office expansion at Advance Machine Company on November 12, 1987.
February 3, 1988
MEMO to FILE
SUBJECT: Mr. Ery Lichten Letter of January 28, 1988
1. Exceptions to the State Code can be made by Municipal Building Officials if
situations warrant. The Uniform Building Code does allow the Building Official
to grant modifications for individual cases whenever there are practical
difficulties involved in carrying out the provisions of the Code; provided he
finds that there are reasons which make the strict letter of the Code
impractical, that the modification is in conformity with the intent and purpose
of the Code, and that such modification does not lessen any fire protection or
any degree of structural integrity.
The 1982 UBC Application/Interpretation Manual provides examples of handrail
designs deemed to be acceptable. The design of the Advance Machine railing was
similar to one of the details shown, except that it exceeded the two (2) inch
maximum cross sectional dimension specifically permitted by Code.
2. The wood handrail at the Plymouth City Center was installed before the adoption
of the 1979 UBC which placed dimensional restrictions on handrails. I am not
aware of exception rulings other cities have been making for handrail use.
3. The top railing installed did not conform with the architectural plans submitted
to our office, for the construction of the office expansion, nor did it comply
with the dimensions cited in the architect's correspondence to our office.
Furthermore, the handrail did not conform to the requirements of the Building
Code as provided for in a letter from the State Building Code Division. We work
with the plans submitted and we go by the information received from the
Registered Architect or Engineer.
4. Our building inspectors strive to be the most reasonable. Our office takes
pride in developing informational hand-outs to citizens and builders, informing
them of the various provisions of the Code, as well as the purpose and intent of
the Codes. We have produced various "checklist" information to assist builders
during their construction process. Examples of this information can be found in
a December 1986 Newsletter, sent to builders, which included an article
regarding the requirements for handrails. Requirements for handrail
construction can also be found in our handouts for decks, porches, etc.
Also, we expect that professional and commercial interests know the provisions
of the State Codes, which were adopted so that builders would have the
dependability and comfort of working with a uniform code, regardless of the
location in the State. We expect that, accordingly, builders and contractors
follow the plans and specifications their clients and customers have approved.
5. The rulings and requirements were made here in good faith, and in compliance
with State Code Division findings, about proposed options that were offered
after plans were approved.
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Ms. Merrilee Riley
13010 - 37th Avenue North
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Ms. Riley:
Thank you for your letter of January 27, 1988. I personally marvel at the
concern and effort exhibited by my, fellow residents of Plymouth. I applaud
your communications and encourage your continued concern for what happens
within our City.
Warmest regards,
Jerry W. Sisk
Councilmember
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cc: Mayor & City Council
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH. MINNEESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
January 27, 1988
The Honorable Virgil Schneider, Mayor
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mayor Schneider:
I would like to thank you, the other officials and the staff of
the City of Plymouth for the many courtesies which were extended
to me during my terms as president of the Heritage Highlands Home-
owners Association.
I feel certain that I personally gained much more from this
experience than I put into it. As our area continues to grow and
develop, I'm hopeful that we can continue to enjoy this kind of
relationship with the City, which I believe is beneficial to us all.
Sincerely,
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Merrilee P. Riley
CC: City Council Members
Jim Willis, City Manager
SUBJECT: RESIDENT COMPLAINTS ABOUT SNOWPLOWING AT THE PLYMOUTH HOLIDAY PLUS
Dear Jerry:
I have learned through our Police Department that we have received at least
two complaints with respect to snowplowing at the Holiday Plus store in
Plymouth. The complaints are from residents living in the vicinity of the
store who are concerned about the noise caused by snowplowing operations
between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m.
Plymouth ordinance provides that, "No person in any public or private place
shall make, or assist in making, by any manner or any means, any loud,
unpleasant or raucous noise, or odor disturbing others unless the same be
reasonably necessary to the preservation of life, health, safety or
property." The ordinance goes on to say that, "No person shall, between the
hours of 10 p.m, and 7 a.m. ... disturb the peace, quiet or repose of
persons residing in any residential area."
While these provisions are not specifically directed at snowplowing or
parking lot maintenance operations, we have used them as a guide in
controlling late night and early morning activities in residential areas.
During the summer months, I understand similar complaints were received
about sweepers cleaning the parking lot during the evening hours. At that
time, you elected to make adjustments to the sweeping schedule in order that
it would be more in conformance with the above ordinance provisions.
We would appreciate it if you would talk with Gannon Brothers, your plowing
contractor, requesting that they revise their schedule for plowing to better
conform with the City Ordinance.
We are pleased that you are taking every effort to retain high maintenance
standards at the Plymouth facility through regular cleaning and plowing.
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447. TELEPHONE (012) 559-2800
February 4, 1988
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Mr. Jerry Jensen
Lyndale Terminal Company
P.O. Box 1224
Minneapolis, MN 55440
SUBJECT: RESIDENT COMPLAINTS ABOUT SNOWPLOWING AT THE PLYMOUTH HOLIDAY PLUS
Dear Jerry:
I have learned through our Police Department that we have received at least
two complaints with respect to snowplowing at the Holiday Plus store in
Plymouth. The complaints are from residents living in the vicinity of the
store who are concerned about the noise caused by snowplowing operations
between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m.
Plymouth ordinance provides that, "No person in any public or private place
shall make, or assist in making, by any manner or any means, any loud,
unpleasant or raucous noise, or odor disturbing others unless the same be
reasonably necessary to the preservation of life, health, safety or
property." The ordinance goes on to say that, "No person shall, between the
hours of 10 p.m, and 7 a.m. ... disturb the peace, quiet or repose of
persons residing in any residential area."
While these provisions are not specifically directed at snowplowing or
parking lot maintenance operations, we have used them as a guide in
controlling late night and early morning activities in residential areas.
During the summer months, I understand similar complaints were received
about sweepers cleaning the parking lot during the evening hours. At that
time, you elected to make adjustments to the sweeping schedule in order that
it would be more in conformance with the above ordinance provisions.
We would appreciate it if you would talk with Gannon Brothers, your plowing
contractor, requesting that they revise their schedule for plowing to better
conform with the City Ordinance.
We are pleased that you are taking every effort to retain high maintenance
standards at the Plymouth facility through regular cleaning and plowing.
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447. TELEPHONE (012) 559-2800
Mr. Jerry Jensen
February 3, 1988
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Any assistance you could give us in revising the hours of parking lot
maintenance should help to mitigate against any future complaints by
residents in the area.
Thanks for your help.
Sincerely,
Frank Boyles
Assistant City Manager
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cc: Lieutenant Dennis Paulson
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
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DATE: Januar v 26. 1988
TO: Lieutenant Paulson c(opy
FROM: Officer Mike Buske
SUBJECT SNOW REMOVAL AT HOLIDAY PLUS - 4445 NATHAN LANE
On 01/25/88 at 2830 hours. Officer Diaatono took an anonvmous complaint via city
telephone. The noise complaint was about snow removal equipment at Holidav Plus. On
01/26/88 at 0020 hours. CSO Bara took a similar comoiaint from a female. Donna.
unknown last name. phone 559-6349. Both complaints carne from the Trenton Place
condominiums.
The noise was tvoical of that caused by a front-end loader. dump trucks. and a small
bobcat..
I spoke with a Greq Bixler of Gammon Brothers of Roaers. Their davtime Phone number
is 428-2497 and the owner's name is Mike Gammon. Bixler advised thev would be
finished with their iob in less than one hour. Thev were allowed to continue. but
were advised of the noise problem.
In the summertime. we have received similar complaints involving sweepers cleanina the
Parkina lots. The standard Practice has been to inform the sweepers thev could not
operate until after 0700 hours. I have never experienced Past complaints involvina
snow removal eauipment at Holidav Plus. Aooarently there has not been a vast problem
as Holidav Plus manaa_ement would not be allowed to have their parking lots cleared of
snow between 2200 and 0700 hours in accordance with the noise ordinance. Is it or is
it not our current policy to allow snow removal equipment to function after hours at
this location? If thev are allowed to operate. can we then ianore anv noise com-
plaints? If thev should not be operating. could you advise Holidav Plus manaa_ement of
this and advise us so we can halt their after-hours operations.
Thank vou. Dennv. for vour attention in this matter.
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M E T R 0 P 0 L I T A N T R A N S I T C 0 M M I S S I 0 N
560 -6th Avenue North, Minneapolis, Minnesota 55411-4398 612/349-7400
January 29, 1988
Mayor Virgil Schneider
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mayor Schneider:
Recently I completed the first half of my appointment as a member of the
Metropolitan Transit Commission. As you may recall, the 1984
Legislature created the Regional Transit Board to do comprehensive
regional transit planning, and reduced the size of the MTC Board to
three members. The Commission's primary job is to operate the area's
largest bus system. I represent the communities outside Minneapolis and
St. Paul. This letter is intended as a brief report on MTC's work
activity during my service on the board.
The major issue that has faced MTC has been to develop a strategic plan
that gives MTC an opportunity to function effectively in a more
competitive environment with basically constant resources. The nature
of that environment was quite evident in the past year, as stable
gasoline prices pushed personal automobile usage to higher levels; as
"foul weather friends" took advantage of our mild winter of 1986-87 to
rely less on MTC; and as both the federal government and regional
agencies pursued policies aimed at increasing privatization of regional
transit services.
The MTC strategic plan has two major priorities. The first is to
increase customer satisfaction by increasing the quality of all of the
services MTC offers to the customer. The second is to look within MTC
to find resources that can be reinvested into more productive services.
One element of major importance in achieving customer satisfaction is
the quality of the bus fleet. In order to retire the large number of
buses purchased in the early 1970s, MTC needs to purchase or
rehabilitate almost 125 buses per year. During the past year, we have
received the last of 140 buses which the Commission chose to
rehabilitate; accepted shipment of 87 new buses; accepted bids for the
purchase of 107 buses which will be delivered early this year; and begun
the process of ordering additional vehicles for delivery in late 1988.
Upon completion of this purchase cycle, the average fleet age will be
5.43 years, down from a high of 11.4 years in 1984.
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In addition to vehicles, other capital improvements have also moved
ahead. The Commission worked with the Minnesota Department of
Transportation and the Regional Transit Board to design timed transfer
and Park-n-Ride locations along the I-394 corridor. Tied to this, the
Commission also initiated action to utilize an existing federal grant to
purchase additional bus shelters for the areas within the I-394
crescent. These will be installed as service is increased. Outside of
the I-394 corridor, funds have been proposed for four additional
park/ride lots and some new bus turnaround areas. We recently opened
park/ride lots in Burnsville, Mounds View and Newport. These will add
over 200 new park/ride spaces to the system.
A major emphasis has also been placed on improved customer services. In
July, we supplemented our telephone information center with City Line, a
touchtone telephone information system which permits riders to get much
faster 'next bus" information. The City Line system is already handling
over 2,000 of the 5,000 transit information calls MTC receives each
day. In late 1986, we opened the Transit Store in downtown Minneapolis.
Customers may now pick out their own schedules rather than have to
request schedules from a clerk. And we are now placing permanent
schedule displays in Seven Eleven and Tom Thumb stores. Including these
additions, pocket schedules will be available in 950 locations
throughout the metropolitan area.
In the hope of improving and making service more cost-effective, MTC
made modifications to over 70 routes in 1987. Updated service
alignments in the northeast quarter of Ramsey County were made last
fall. We are presently working with the Regional Transit Board to study
the feasibility of upgraded service in Anoka County and St. Louis Park.
Also, working with the Regional Transit Board, MTC is developing plans
to utilize transit and rideshare to relieve congestion in the I-494
area, and with the Minnesota Department of Transportation to relieve
congestion during various freeway reconstruction projects this summer.
We are also actively supporting Hennepin County's study of light rail by
providing potential feeder bus route planning.
On the negative side, excess capacity in the system resulted in the
elimination of almost 800,000 annual miles of MTC service. These
reductions were triggered primarily ty a 3.6% ridership decli^e it
1987. Some of these miles may be restored by subcontracting with
private transit providers. We are working with RTB to ensure that when
subcontracting is done, planning and marketing are done in a way which
ensures compatibility with MTC service.
Many of the improvements I have noted come at an added cost to the
taxpayer, but on the whole, MTC's operating expenses in recent years
have grown very slowly. For example, in 1986, total operating expenses
increased by about 1% over 1985. Part of this is luck. Fuel costs have
remained tamer, and labor costs, which until recently were tied to the
consumer price index, have grown only slightly. The Commission has also
taken actions which have kept costs in line. A major example of this
was the MTC labor contract agreement which was signed in 1986. While we
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did not achieve all that we sought, I believe the settlement moved the
MTC in the direction of increased productivity and more effective
service, with labor costs increasing less than one percent annually over
the 3 -year contract period.
MTC has also taken other steps to better utilize its resources. For
example, we now contract with both Greyhound and Trailways to do fueling
and light maintenance at MTC's Heywood Garage.
We have also included in our request for federal funds a new Nicollet
Garage facility, which is planned for joint public-private operator use.
Frankly, I would be less than honest if r did not express concern about
some of the decisions we have made at MTC to achieve greater efficiency.
Service reductions may result in more ridership loss, which may result
in more efforts to reduce service. Transit plays a very important role
in the transportation picture of this metropolitan area. We need to
continue our efforts to ensure that all of our citizens have
opportunities to travel throughout the area, and to ensure that
transportation services keep up with the development plans of
communities. I enjoy my service on the Metropolitan Transit Commission,
and look forward to hearing from you about the transit needs of your
community.
Sin rely,
Glenn G. C. Olson
Commissioner
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