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CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
March 10, 1989
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UPCOMING MEETINGS AMD EVENTS.....
I. SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING -- Monday, March 13, 5:30 p.m. Special
Council meeting in in City Council Chambers. Discussion of the
proposed community center and public safety building projects,
including potential project scope and financing.
2. PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING -- Monday, March 13, 7:00 p.m. Public
information meeting will be held in the City Council Chambers
regarding the reconstruction of County Road 6 between Fernbrook Lane
and Highway 101.
3. PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION -- Wednesday, March 15, 7:00 p.m.
A Planning Commission study session will be held in the City Council
Chambers. Agenda attached. (M-3)
4. HRA MEETING RESCHEDULED -- The March 16 HRA meeting has been
rescheduled to Thursday, March 23.
5. MEETING CALENDARS -- Meeting calendars for March and April are
attached. M-5
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CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
March 10, 1989
Page 2
FOR YOUR INFORMATION......
1. PLYMOUTH METROLINK - JANUARY REPORT -- Shown below is a table for
January 1989 displaying our average daily ridership for the
commuter/reverse commuter, internal circulator and total system for
each week. Also is a table on year to date averages in each service
area compared with the target which we must achieve in order to have
a successful project are also provided.
MONTHLY
PLYMOUTH METROLINK
DAILY RIDERSHIP AVERAGES BY WEEK BY SERVICE TYPE
JANUARY 1989
Total
System
SERVICE TYPE
Commuter/
Internal
Total
TARGET
413
Reverse Commuter
Circulator
System
WEEK OF:
- 14%
+ 17%
1/2 - 1/8
440
38
480
1/9 - 1/15
545
37
589
1/16 - 1/22
509
41
557
1/23 - 1/29
493
41
538
1/30 - 1/31
494
36
531
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MONTH LONG
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AVERAGE
496
39
539
YEAR TO DATE
Item
Commuter/
Reverse Commuter
Internal
Circulator
Total
System
YEAR TO DATE
RIDERSHIP AVERAGE
496
39
539
TARGET
413
45
458
% OVER/(UNDER)
TARGET
+ 20%
- 14%
+ 17%
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
March 10, 1989
Page 3
A number of observations are in order:
1. The 1989 targets for Plymouth Metrolink were calculated at 5
percent over the 1988 year-end commuter/reverse commuter
average, and equal to the 1988 average for the internal
circulator ridership.
2. Internal circulator ridership in January averaged 39 passengers
per day, an increase from last month's average of 35.
3. The commuter/reverse commuter portion of the service lumped from
409 passengers per day in December, to 496 passengers per day in
January. This is the highest monthly average recorded.
DA11-Y R A%ERA(£5 BY HDM
Fat 0"ILEMUAR Wffi 19% - 1989
SERVICE T IE
Commuter/
Internal
Total
Reverse
Caemuter
Circulator
System
MMM:
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988 1989
January
330
307
351
429
433
496
21
51
40 47
34 39
351
358
391
476
467 539
February
310
292
350
394
426
25
50
47 49
38
335
342
394
442
464
March
307
311
338
397
418
25
56
64 53
44
332
367
402
450
462
April
301
295
354
365
408
27
55
44 49
34
331
350
398
414
442
May
295
298
332
350
392
27
36
35 36
39
322
334
367
386
431
June
276
314
349
358
409
41
53
64 54
41
317
367
413
412
451
July
277
297
328
345
361
42
52
62 52
41
319
349
390
397
429
August
266
292
328
345
377
47
57
73 54
55
313
349
401
399
432
September
275
322
354
348
396
32
42
33 33
34
307
364
387
381
436
October
276
312
384
365
430
36
55
40 32
31
312
367
424
397
465
NDvember
271
311
396
398
437
35
57
50 32
33
306
368
446
430
472
December
----------
265
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320
412
391
409
39
52
56 49
35
304
372
468
440
464
1'EAR LONG
--------------------------------
-----------------------------------
AM90CE
287
306
356
374
408
4%
36
51
51 45
38 39
321
357
407
419
451 539
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
March 10, 1989
Page 4
2. CONCESSION STAND REPORT FOR ZACHARY AND PARKERS LAKE PARKS -
Councilmember Vasiliou asked to be provided a copy of the concession
report for the 1988 season. Attached is a copy of that report which
we originally provided the Council on August 18, 1988. The
agreement between the City and the vendor provided that the City was
to receive 15% of the net sales. The vendor complied with that
commitment. (I-2)
3. CELEBRATE MINNESOTA 1990 GRANT REJECTED - The Council may recall
that we applied for a "Celebrate Minnesota 1990" grant to assist us
in relocating the old log cabin at the Hennepin County Workhouse
site to the Parkers Lake Park site. We have just been notified by
the Department of Trade and Economic Development, the agency
responsible for coordinating the Celebrate Minnesota 1990 Grant
Program, that because of "limited grant funds available, we are not
able to offer you a grant this year." Based upon this notification,
It is our intent not to proceed with the project at this time.
4. RESIGNATIONS - Public Safety Director Dick Carlquist has forwarded
to me the resignations of two of his Community Service Officers,
Jane Laurence Cooper and Dave Phillips. Jane is resigning effective
March 17 to join the St. Paul Police Department as a Police
Officer. Dave is resigning effective March 14 and will be serving
as the Deputy Sheriff with the St. Louis County Sheriff's
Department. Jane was with the City for seven years and Dave
Phillips for three. We will miss them, but are pleased that they
have achieved success in being selected for sworn public safety
service.
5. DEVELOPMENT SIGNAGE -- On Friday, March 10, a development sign was
installed at:
4000 Annapolis Lane North. Trammell Crow Company is requesting
approval of a conditional use permit for a Class II restaurant
(Pizza Hut) with carry -out only and no eat -in dining.
This request will be heard by the Planning Commission at the
March 22, 1989 meeting.
6. MINUTES: The following minutes are attached:
a. Plymouth Safety Committee, February 22, 1989 (I -6a)
b. Planning Commission meeting and Comprehensive Plan Study/Dinner
meeting of February 22, and Planning Commission Study Session,
March 1, 1989. (I -6b)
c. Wayzata/Plymouth Area Chemical Health Commission, February 3,
1989. (I-60
7. NORTH HENNEPIN HUMAN SERVICES COUNCIL -- The 1988 annual report of
the Northwest Hennepin Human Services Council is attached.
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
March 10, 1989
Page 5
8. HENNEPIN COUNTY REPORT ON PROPERTY TAX EQUITY -- Attached is a
Property Tax Equity Report the Hennepin County Board will be
providing the County's legislative delegation as part of its overall
effort to highlight inequities in the State's property tax system.
9. DEPARTMENT REPORTS -- The Fire Department's monthly activity report
for February is attached. (I-9)
10. CORRESPONDENCE:
a. Letter from Michael A. Schiks, Program Director, Hazelden
Pioneer House, explaining concerns with the City moratorium for
residential -based care facilities. (I -10a)
b. Memorandum from Dick Carlquist providing an update on snowmobile
complaints. (I -10b)
James G. Willis
City Manager
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attachments
PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 15, 1989, 7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
WHERE: Plymouth City Center
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
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1. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE
A. Discussion of Staff analysis of LUGP directions that have been
suggested at previous two meetings.
B. Discussion on CL, CN and CS Guiding by Staff.
C. Review the Guide Plan for the area west of Vicksburg Lane and north
of County Road 24 and Highway 55.
2. ADJOURNMENT
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Concession Report
Actual Sales vs. City (15%)
TOTAL ACTUAL SALES = $ 704.56
2,842.96
2,637.98
$ 6,185.50
JUNE
Actual
Sales City
$ 2,017.67 $ 310.75
771.29 115.69
$ 2,842.96 $ 426.44
Cz
JULY
Actual
Sales City
$ 2,637.98 $ 395.70
$ 2,637.98 $ 395.70
TOTAL CITY - $ 105.68
426.44
395.70
$ 927.82
MAY
Actual
Sales
City
$ 440.05
$ 66.01
264.51
39.67
$ 704.56
$ 105.68
TOTAL ACTUAL SALES = $ 704.56
2,842.96
2,637.98
$ 6,185.50
JUNE
Actual
Sales City
$ 2,017.67 $ 310.75
771.29 115.69
$ 2,842.96 $ 426.44
Cz
JULY
Actual
Sales City
$ 2,637.98 $ 395.70
$ 2,637.98 $ 395.70
TOTAL CITY - $ 105.68
426.44
395.70
$ 927.82
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MINUTES
PLYMOUTH SAFETY COMMITTEE
February 22, 1989
PRESENT: Gary Smith, Bob Fasching, Tom Nelson, Craig Bechtold, John Ward,
Joel Franz, Eric Luetgers, Dan Campbell, Stan Scofield, Frank
Boyles
ABSENT: Gary Pouti
ALSO PRESENT: Dave Drugg, North Star Risk Services; Dave Volker, Employee
Benefit Administration; Kathy McGrew and Terry Schwerm, City
of Minnetonka; Sue Gottwald, Judy McMillin
I. OLD BUSINESS
A. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 11, 1989 MINUTES
Dave Drugg stated that item I.B.9 of the the minutes should be
amended to reflect that the Dakota County Institute "may" construct
a drivers training course at its facility. Dave stated the course
Is dependent on whether legislative monies would be made available
for its construction.
The committee approved the January 11 minutes as amended.
B. Report on Safety Activities
I. Annual Inspection of City Facilities -- Bob Fasching reported
that the new doors panic hardware for the water plant had been
received and installed. With completion of this item, all items
from the July building safety inspection report have now been
acted on or completed.
2. Fire Station III Fitness Facilities -- Frank Boyles advised he
had met with Dick Carlquist and Lyle Robinson to begin
discussions on facility guidelines and training program for
Fire Station No. 3. Using the Inver Grove Heights guidelines
provided by Dave Volker, they are studying the following areas:
1) type of program levels to offer; 2) employee fitness evalua-
tion; 3) building access and security; 4) allowing extended
family members to use the facility and equipment; 5) type of
fitness equipment to install; and 6) continuing maintenance of
fitness equipment. Frank advised he would contact the YMCA for
their recommendation on the type of equipment, rules and
programs they would recommend. John Ward suggested that U.S.
Swim & Fitness also be contacted.
3. Supercycle Operations -- Frank stated he had communicated the
committee's concerns with the Supercycle operations at the
public works garage to Dick Pouliot. A memorandum from Dick
Pouliot advises that he and Jim Kolstad had met with the vice
president of Supercycle to discuss the concerns. Dick Pouliot
recommended that future concerns or complaints about the
operation at the public works site should be directed to Jim
Kolstad, who will notify Dick Pouliot for follow up with Super-
cycle officials.
PLYMOUTH SAFETY COMMITTEE
February 22, 1989
Page 2
The committee discussed Dick Pouliot's memo. Several committee
members questioned the effectiveness of the vacumn operation for
the glass clean up, noting that the vacumn to be used will not
pick up large pieces of glass. Members also commented that the
area being used by Supercycle was not previously a storage area
for gravel and pea rock as noted by Dick, but was maintained as
a grassy area and therefore should be restored as such.
Committee members also recommended that the area used by Super-
cycle be fenced to alleviate the problem of paper debris over
the public works site. One member also inquired why the site is
used by Supercycle on Fridays. Frank said he would further
investigate and advise the committee.
4. Specifications for New Trail Construction -- The committee
reviewed the language to the City Engineering Guidelines for new
trail construction. The new provision requires that all trees,
stumps, brush, etc., are to be cleared out within two feet of
the edge of the trail. Exception would be only hardwood trees
or others that a plan shows to remain. Frank stated that with
this amendment, together with the Park Maintenance division's
inspection of existing trails for unseen tree stumps prior to
the mowing season, should help to resolve the problem of mower
damage.
5. County Road 9 and Larch Lane -- The Committee was advised that
Hennepin County Department of Transportation had been contacted
on the reinstallation of the fire station location signs on new
County Road 9 and Larch Lane. The signs had been located on old
County Road 9 prior to the construction of new County Road 9.
However, the signs were not reinstalled when new County Road 9
was completed.
6. Truck Driver Training -- Frank advised that final arrangements
for the training program are being completed. An instructor
from the Dakota County Institute is establishing a test route
within the City for the program which typifies various hazards
City truck drivers encounter. Once the route is established,
administration of the program will begin, with 29 City truck
drivers participating.
7. Back-up Light Disabling Mechanism on Squad Cars -- Frank advised
he had been informed by Jim Kolstad that the backup disabling
toggle switches on city squad cars are light activated when
engaged. Joel Franz noted the problem was that when the backup
switch is first turned on it is dim, and does not become
brighter until the brake is stepped on. Tom Nelson advised
there is the possibility with the new police vehicles, that the
disabling switch may have to be eliminated. Frank Boyles stated
that if the switch is not eliminated on the new police vehicles,
that it will continue to be identifiable either through light or
audio means.
PLYMOUTH SAFETY COMMITTEE
February 22, 1989
Page 3
8. Snowplowing at Public Works Garage
Kolstad has initiated the practice
garage site plowed before employees
out for plowing.
Z LPc�..
-- Frank advised that dim
of having the public works
respond to the first call
9. Seat Belt/Harness System for Fire Engines -- Stan Scofield
stated that discussions had been held with dim Kolstad on
modifying the seat belts on Engine No. 21. However, for
liability reasons, Oim Kolstad advises the City cannot perform
the work, and recommends an outside firm be hired to complete
the work. Frank stated he would follow up on this matter and
report back to the committee.
10. Emergency Lights on Fire Inspector Vehicles -- Frank stated that
because issues involving the installation of emergency lights on
fire inspector vehicles were still being evaluated, this item
would be deferred until the next meeting.
Tom Nelson noted a problem with lights being installed on fire
vehicles. He stated that fire department personnel rather than
public works mechanics had installed a light on Fire Vehicle
No. 10. Because of this installation, the vehicle's circuits
were overloaded. Tom advised that a memorandum from public
works had been conveyed to the Fire Department last summer
requesting that all light/equipment installations on fire
vehicles be accomplished by public works mechanics. Stan
Scofield stated he would remind fire department personnel to
coordinate future installations with the Public Works depart-
ment.
II. NEW BUSINESS
A. Consent Agenda -- The Committee approved the consent agenda.
Consent items include three personal injury accidents and one
vehicular accidents. Two personal injury accidents were determined
non -preventable, and one preventable. The vehicular accident was
determined preventable. A report and recommendation will be
forwarded to the City Manager.
B. Review of Vehicular Accident -- The committee reviewed one vehicular
accident, determining the accident to be non -preventable. A report
on the Safety Committee's findings and recommendations will be
forwarded to the City Manager.
C. Risk Management Coordinator -- Frank advised the committee on the
status of the Risk Management Coordinator position. (Post Note:
Taud Hoopingarner has been hired as the City's Risk Management
Coordinator. Taud will begin employment with the City on April 3,
1989).
PLYMOUTH SAFETY COMMITTEE �Pck..J
February 22, 1989
Page 4
D. Other Safetv Activities
- First Aid Training Classes - CPR classes were held during the
month of February for City employees. Park Maintenance
employees recommended, that because of park maintenance winter
work activities, future CPR classes should be scheduled during
the month of March.
- Heart Attack Prevention Program, March 15 and March 22 - In
conjunction with the Hennepin County Health Department, the city
will sponsor a Heart Attack Prevention Program for City
employees.
- Smoking - Effective February 14, 1989, smoking in city vehicles
and in city buildings with the exception of the apparatus floors
of Fire Stations 1 and 2, and the first and second level
vestibules of the City Center, is prohibited. One committee
member recommended that chewing tobacco also be prohibited in
city vehicles.
IV. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Lion's Park -- Mark Peterson advised he had further studied the
the rink flooding operations at Lion's Park and the associated ice
problem in the "cul-de-sac" area off of 14th Avenue. Mark stated
that based on physical observation of the area, and with the limited
vehicular traffic in this area, he would recommend the ice rink
flooding operations remain status quo.
B. Watermain Repair Video -- Frank advised that in November 1988, Dave
Volker had videotaped City employees repairing a watermain break at
8th Avenue and Highway 101. The purpose of the video was to review
the excavation and compare actual procedures followed against the
City's Excavation policy. Frank advised that based on a review of
the video, a number of the policy guidelines were met, however there
remains areas for improvement. Frank stated that Bob Fasching would
be scheduling a meeting with Sewer and Water maintenance employees
to review the City's Excavation policy and proper excavation
procedures to follow.
C. Sight Obstruction at 26th & Olive Lane -- Eric Luetgers requested a
follow up to the status of the sight obstruction at this location.
Frank indicated he would check with Myra Wicklacz and report back at
the next meeting.
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 a.m.
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STUDY/DINNER SESSION MINUTES
FEBRUARY 22, 1989
The Comprehensive Plan Study Session began at 5:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Plufka, Commissioners Pierce, Zylla, Marofsky, and Tierney.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioners Stulberg and Wire.
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Director Blair Tremere, Community Development
Coordinator Chuck Dillerud, Associate Planner Al Cottingham, and
Planning Secretary Jackie Watson.
Director Tremere suggested for a a future meeting that staff bring a draft of the Land Use
Guide Plan incorporating the suggestions made thus far by the Planning Commission. He
also suggested that staff could bring some recommendations and analysis for consideration.
Associate Planner Al Cottingham discussed the handout on driving neighborhoods, and used a
wall map to point out the relationships to adjoining cities. He reported that no other
community adjoining Plymouth has a driving neighborhood concept. He questioned whether
the Commission wished to continue with this concept of incorporating area in adjoining
cities in Plymouth driving neighborhoods.
Commissioner Marofsky suggested that the current definition works only with the use of
driving neighborhoods extending across the highways into other communities.
Coordinator Dillerud asked how far out should we extend the driving neighborhood concept.
He commented that it doesn't look as though the neighboring communities go along with our
concept.
Chairman Plufka commented that in many cases people do not cross a highway to shop.
Commissioner Marofsky said that most thoroughfares were well established in the 1970s and
that it is not always practical for shopping areas to be in the center of a neighborhood.
A location on the fringe can be just as practical.
Commissioner Tierney said she agreed with Commissioner Marofsky and suggested the
Commission look at the second map showing shopping areas on the fringes of driving
neighborhoods. She said she did not feel this threw the driving neighborhood out of sync.
Commissioner Marofsky suggested using the major highways as boundary lines for the driving
neighborhoods with shopping areas on the fringes. He included using County Road 47, which
will eventually be a major highway.
Chairman Plufka suggested that the Planning Commission's primary goal right now is to come
to the City Council with some suggestions, and that the Commission should focus on
Associate Planner Cottingham's work, and determine if the guiding is appropriate using the
driving neighborhood concept. He said that more shopping should not necessarily be guided
if it is already adequate. Even though a major shopping center is not anticipated in
Plymouth, Chairman Plufka mentioned that some neighborhood shopping areas may draw more
people that just a neighborhood center.
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Planning Commission Minutes
February 22, 1989
Page 38
Coordinator Dillerud questioned the Commissioners as to whether they are more comfortable
with the second map showing the redefined driving neighborhoods.
Commissioner Marofsky said he agreed with this plan.
Director Tremere read the definition of the Community Structure Concept. He told the
Commission that there are still many segments of the community that are not developed, but
that a good portion is developed, and it is necessary to look at the undeveloped areas.
He suggested the Commission think in terms of planning areas or planning units rather than
neighborhoods.
Commissioner Zylla recalled that the Commission had planned to leave the community
structure concept in place at their meeting two weeks earlier. He felt that the
Commission should modify some definitions in the concepts, adjust lines, and get away from
the centrally located shopping area.
Chairman Plufka restated the City Council's directive to look at the plan and see if there
are glaring areas needing change.
Associate Planner Cottingham suggested that the Commission look at the northwest quadrant
and redefine some retail areas for this section.
Chairman Plufka felt it was too soon to deal with the northwest quadrant simply because
this area would not be ready for development in the near future. He said the Commission
should focus on the areas that are ready for development in the next few years. He said
he is ready to make some suggestions to staff.
Chairman Plufka suggested that the Commission make comments and observations to the staff
and then the staff can create the language.
Director Tremere discussed the CS/CN study done by staff and.the original intent of these
areas. The uses in the CS/CN areas have melded by virtue of many uses being permitted as
a conditional use.
Director Tremere used the map to show the Commissioners the areas of undeveloped land that
need to be focused on. He suggested the Commission hone in on these areas because the
Stage Growth Plan will expire in the next year.
Director Tremere also questioned whether the Commission wanted to accommodate the market
in its demands or wait until the market comes to the plan.
Chairman Plufka said he has seen Plymouth as three different communities. First there
were the temporary seasonal dwellings; then the large lots; and at present the demand is
for smaller lots with large houses.
Director Tremere asked if the Commission desired to change guiding along the primary
thoroughfare corridors. He commented that this is the direction staff is looking at.
Commissioner Marofsky replied that they need to look at the definitions of the Guide Plan
text because they are what will dictate the guiding.
Chairman Plufka stated again that staff should listen to the Commissioner's suggestions
and then draft the language to fit their suggestions. The Commission can then change the
language if they are not satisfied and can also look at the map to see then if it is
consistent with the definitions.
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Chairman Plufka suggested the following agenda for the next meeting:
1. Discuss the CL/CN/CS definitions.
2. Review the Guide Plan for the area bounded by Highway 169, Schmidt Lake
Road, Zachary Lane, and the City Limits.
3. Review the Highway 55 corridor from Highway 169 to West Medicine Lake
Drive.
4. Review the I-494 corridor from Highway 55 north to the City limits.
5. Review the area west of Vicksburg Lane and north of County Road 24
and Highway 55.
A question was raised by Linda Fisher in the audience as to when the Planning Commission
would listen to input from developers.
Chairman Plufka stated that once the Commission had completed their revisions there would
be a Public Hearing for input from developers. The Public Hearing may be scheduled for
sometime around the end of March.
The next Study Session was scheduled for March 1, 1989, at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council
Conference Room.
Chairman Plufka called a recess at 7:20 p.m. so that the Planning Commission could set up
for its Regular Meeting.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
FEBRUARY 22, 1989
The Regular Meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was
called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Plufka.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Richard Plufka,
Commissioners Dennis Zylla, Larry
Marofsky, Joy Tierney, and Hal
Pierce.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioners John Wire and
Michael Stulberg.
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Coordinator
Charles E. Dillerud, Assistant
Engineer John Sweeney, and
Planning Secretary Jackie Watson.
Chairman Plufka gave the audience an overview of where each
of the Commissioners reside.
Chairman Plufka explained that Item 5A on the Agenda was not
a Public Hearing item and would therefore be moved to the
end of the Agenda.
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MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, second by Commissioner
Zylla to approve the Minutes from the February 1, 1989,
Special Planning Commission Meeting and from the February 8, .
1989, Regular Planning Commission Meeting.
Vote. 4 Ayes. Chairman Plufka did not vote as he was
absent from the February 8, 1989 meeting. MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by A.J. Poppelaars
for a Preliminary Plat for Ponderosa Woods.
Coordinator Dillerud presented the February 14, 1989, Staff
Report.
Coordinator Dillerud said that Commissioner Marofsky had
brought an issue to his attention concerning the lot width
of Lot 14. The Ordinance requires a 110 foot lot width.
Staff subsequently reviewed the other lot widths and found
additional deficiencies in lot width. The Kirkwood Lane
cul-de-sac is over the Subdivision Code requirement and will
also require a variance. Coordinator Dillerud stated the
plat contains much woodland and wetlands and therefore some
basis would appear to exist for design related variances to
protect natural site features.
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MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
A.J. POPPELAARS,
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR
PONDEROSA WOODS (88139)
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Coordinator Dillerud said that the Park Director recommends
a 15 foot easement on the northwest between Lots 5 and 6 to
intersect with the public trail corridor. The developers do
not wish to make this a public trail.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that Lot 28 is 5 acres in the
northeast section. There are two residences on the land.
There is a garage structure that straddles the lot line with
proposed Lot 26. He noted that fifteen of the 28 lots are
substandard in width.
Coordinator Dillerud suggested an alternative is to defer
the matter for two weeks to allow the petitioner to redesign
to reduce or eliminate lot width variances.
Commissioner Tierney questioned whether the plat could be
done as a PUD.
Coordinator Dillerud stated this is a problem because a PUD
Ordinance severly penalizes smaller parcels such as this,
due solely to their size.
Commissioner Pierce asked what the total deficiency was.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that it was net 170 feet lot
width deficiency over the entire plat (not including Lot
28).
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Tony Poppelaars, the
developer.
Mr. Poppelaars discussed the two cul-de-sacs as they relate
to reduced lot width. Only 4 houses will be seen from the
street. This was done to preserve the natural site
features. He stated he was upset over the lot deficiencies
but thought that his interpretation of the lot size (80
percent of the width at the building line) was correct.
Coordinator Dillerud explained the lot width regulations
according to the Zoning Ordinance, and that the 80 percent
standard was at the front lot line not the setback line.
Mr. Popppelaars expressed his concern on the trail easement.
He agreed with the 15 foot trail along the west line, and
his responsibility for the blacktop. He said that the trail
between Lots 5 and 6 would be within 10 feet of the
residences and that construction would eliminate more trees
rather than preserve them, and would be very expensive. He
also felt the trail would increase the traffic flow within
the cul-de-sac area of the development.
Mr. Poppelaars introduced his son Dan Poppelaars to discuss
the trail.
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Commissioner Marofsky asked Dan Poppelaars why he felt the
trail would increase the traffic on the cul-de-sac. Mr.
Poppelaars suggested that there would be more traffic on the
18th Street access and people would prefer to park on the
cul-de-sac where it would be safer.
Commissioner Tierney asked if the Poppelaars would be
agreeable to a trail smaller than 8 feet. Mr. Poppelaars
said he would be agreeable to a type of walking path covered
with woodchips.
Commissioner Marofsky questioned whether the trail would be
part of the Park dedication credit. Mr. Poppelaars said
they would still object because of the loss of privacy for
the residences.
Dan Poppelaars said he disagreed with the wording of
Condition #13. He suggested that the grading for Kirkwood
Lane and the trail be done at the same time as the streets
would be paved.
Mr. Tony Poppelaars discussed the garage on Lot 28. He does
not own Lot 28 and gave the easement for the garage to the
owner when he purchased the property. The easement will
dissolve if and when the garage falls down.
Commissioner Tierney asked whether Lot 28 was included in
the preliminary plat. Coordinator Dillerud answered in the
affirmative.
Coordinator Dillerud explained that when the Final Plat is .
sought, the owners of Lot 28 will have to sign the plat and
Development Contract also.
Commissioner Marofsky asked if Lot 26 met the regulations at
the setback?
Coordinator Dillerud answered negative, that is one on which
a variance is required.
Commissioner Tierney said she agreed with the developers
concerning the trail between Lots 5 and 6 and felt more
trees would be destroyed than preserved.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one
to speak on the issue. Chairman Plufka closed the Public
Hearing.
Coordinator Dillerud went over the plat and pointed out the
lots which do not meet width requirements and their
measurements.
Coordinator Dillerud again explained the measurement at the
setback line of each lot. He also passed out to the
Commissioners and explained the Tree Preservati�)n Policy.
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MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky to table the request until
staff could review further due to the new information.
The motion died due to the lack of a second.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner
Pierce to approve the Preliminary Plat subject to the 16
conditions listed.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Chairman Plufka to
delete Condition 12.
Commission Marofsky stated that the Comprehensive Plan
required neighborhoods to have trails linking the trail
system. He stated that if access to the public was denied,
a trespass situation could arise. He stated that the public
could use the 18th Street access but he felt that the trail
between Lots 5 and 6 should not be eliminated.
Chairman Plufka stated that access to that trail would only
be used by 9 homes and he felt the cost to the developer
would be burdensome.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Marofsky, Nay.
MOTION carried.
MOTION to amend by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by
Commissioner Pierce to amend Condition 13 stating that trail
construction shall be completed as per Resolution 89-65, at
the time of or prior to the paving of public streets and
coordinated with other improvements during development.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
MOTION to amend by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by
Commissioner Marofsky to combine Condition 15 and 16 and
delete the second sentence of Condition 15. Add the
sentence Relocation/removal of the garage structure shall
be made a part of any platting approvals of the Outlot and
for now, to be allowed by easement as part of the platting.
Commissioner Marofsky suggested leaving the garage as a
nonconforming use.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
MOTION to amend by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by
Commissioner Tierney to add a condition stating that Lots 3-
7, 9-12, 14-15, 22-24 and 26 be granted with a variance for
lot width but no area variances because of the unique
physical constraints to design of the site created by the
public interest in preserving extensive wetlands and
woodlands found on this site.
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MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF
A SECOND
MOTION TO APPROVE
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION TO AMEND
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Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Marofsky, Nay.
MOTION carried.
MOTION to amend by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by
Commissioner Pierce to add a condition restricting
homeowners from cutting protected trees without City
permission.
Roll Call Vote. 2 Ayes. Commissioners Zylla, Tierney and
Chairman Plufka, Nay. MOTION fails.
MOTION by Commissioner Tierney, seconded by Commissioner
Zylla to state that the walking path between Lots 5 and 6 be
a 5 foot easement with 2 foot chip trail.
Roll Call Vote. 2 Ayes. Commissioners Pierce, Zylla and
Chairman Plufka, Nay. MOTION fails.
Roll Call Vote on the MAIN MOTION as amended. 4 Ayes.
Commissioner Marofsky, Nay. MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Jack Swedlund for
an amendment to the Staged Growth Element of the
Comprehensive Plan located north of County Road 9, west of
Vicksburg Lane.
Coordinator Dillerud presented the February 14, 1989, Staff
Report.
Commissioner Marofsky asked if the remainder of the land
north to the Oxbow development could be included.
Assistant Engineer Sweeney answered in the affirmative.
Commissioner Marofsky asked if the sewer would cross over
other property.
Coordinator Dillerud said it could and that an easement
would be required. This would be the developers'
responsibility and not the City's.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Jack Swedlund, the
petitioner.
Mr. Swedlund said he agreed with the resolution as stated.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that unless a person petitions
for amendment of the Staged Growth Line, no amendments have
been previously made.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Bernard Barr of 11670 61st
Avenue North.
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MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION FAILS
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION FAILS
VOTE - MAIN MOTION WITH
FOUR AMENDMENTS CARRIES
JACK SWEDLUND
AMENDMENT TO THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
(89001)
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February 22, 1989
Page 45
Mr. Barr stated that his property is across the creek and he
was told previously that he could not be connected to the
interceptor until the Plymouth Creek School was connected.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that Mr. Barr had requested an
amendment to the Capital Improvements Program earlier and
his petition was denied. He stated that Mr. Barr has not
petitioned again.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Richard Blevins of 16440
County Road 9.
Mr. Blevins stated that he thought trunk sewer development
was not scheduled west of Vicksburg Lane until 1992.
Coordinator Dillerud confirmed this. The current request by
Mr. Swedlund is to serve his land from an existing trunk
sewer line. He stated that there will also be a Public
Hearing when Mr. Swedlund is ready to develop the land.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Lars Lodden of 3541 Idaho
North, Crystal, MN.
Mr. Lodden has property in this area and indicated his
interest in being connected to the line.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Douglas Turbak of 9750 County
Road 9, a lawyer representing Harold Berthiume who owns
property adjoining that of Mr. Swedlund.
Mr. Turbak said he just wanted his interest in the Swedlund .
project to be a part of the record.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Tierney to approve the request to amend the Stage Growth
Element as petitioned by Jack Swedlund.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Marofsky, Nay. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Graham GRAHAM DEVELOPMENT/CSM -
Development/CSM Corporation for Bass Lake Hills. RPUD FINAL PLAN/FINAL
PLAT FOR BASS LAKE HILLS
Coordinator Dillerud presented the Staff Report of February (88060)
15, 1989.
Coordinator Dillerud discussed Condition 11 in regard to the
4 structures fronting West Medicine Lake Drive, and
Condition 12 on the transfer of Outlot B to the City for
park dedication requirements.
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Commissioner Marofsky asked if the calculations for parking
included the driveways.
Coordinator Dillerud answered in the affirmative.
Chairman Plufka asked if the drivelane setback could be
corrected by eliminating some parking.
Coordinator Dillerud answered in the affirmative.
Chairman Plufka introduced Dave Carland of CSM representing
the petitioners.
Mr. Carland stated that the petitioners have no overall
problems with the resolutions. He stated that they can
comply with Condition 5 and can relocate 10 parking stalls
which would involve relocating 2 buildings.
Mr. Carland stated that the 4 buildings located near the
gravel on West Medicine Lake Road would not be built until
Highway 61 is completed and West Medicine Lake Road is
vacated. He asked the Commission to explore an alternate
outlet for West Medicine Lake Road.
Commissioner Zylla asked Mr. Carland if the language in
Condition 11 "abandon" was a concern. -
Mr. Carland said he understood that no building permits
would be issued until West Medicine Lake Road was vacated
but that it is a concern.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that he felt it was a hardship
for the developer to finish the berm and grading before
starting to build the 4 buildings near the gravel road and
the Outlot.
Mr. Carland said he hoped for the vacation of the roadway
before the completion of County Road 61 to 47th Avenue
North.
Chairman Plufka said that the Commission can recommend the
completion of County Road 61 be given some priority.
Commissioner Marofsky told Mr. Carland that the Planning
Commission cannot give him a guarantee that West Medicine
Lake Road will be abandoned.
Commissioner Marofsky stated his concern about the parking
on the southerly end of the development• and said there is a
need for more parking in that area. He also expressed his
concern that some garages could be blocked by parking.
Commissioner Marofsky questioned the slope of the berm
behind the building near the pond.
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February 22, 1989
Page 47
Bill Jensen of Suburban Engineering, the engineer for the
development stated that none of the slopes were steeper than
3:1.
Commissioner Marofsky questioned the drainage and grading on
the south side. He stated that he felt more parking was
needed in this area.
Mr. Carland stated that the drainage met regulations and the
he was comfortable with the amount of parking in this area.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Zylla to approve the request subject to the 13 conditions
stated in the resolution.
MOTION to amend by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by MOTION TO AMEND
Commissioner Zylla to add Condition 14 stating "The
petitioner shall provide, relocate or add 8 additional
offstreet parking spaces to the southerly area of 32
building units.
Roll Call Vote. 3 Ayes. Commissioner Pierce and Chairman VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Plufka, Nay. MOTION carried.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Zylla to delete the last part of Condition 11 after the word
"street."
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner . MOTION TO AMEND
Pierce to add Condition 15 stating "The petitioner shall
secure approval with Graham Development with respect to
signage."
Roll Call Vote. 2 Ayes. Commissioners Zylla, Tierney and VOTE - MOTION FAILS
Chairman Plufka, Nays. MOTION fails.
Roll Call Vote on Resolution Setting Conditions to be Met VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Prior to Filing RPUD FinalPlat/Site as amended. 5 Ayes.
MOTION Carried.
Roll Call Vote on Resolution Approving Final Plat/Site Plan VOTE - MOTION CARRIED.
and Development Contract. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION
Pierce to review the use of driveway space as part of
parking stall count.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by Commissioner Pierce to require homeowners to get MOTION
City permission to remove trees on their property.
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February 22, 1989
Page 48
MOTION died for lack of a second. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF
A SECOND
Chairman Plufka reminded the Commission of the Study Session
next Wednesday, March 1, 1989 at 1:00 p.m. on the
Comprehensive Plan.
Chairman Plufka asked for a volunteer to be the Planning
Commission liaison on the Board of Zoning Ajustments and
Appeals. Commissioner Tierney volunteered her services.
Meeting adjourned at 10:18
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION
MARCH 1, 1989
The Comprehensive Plan Study Session began at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Plufka, Commissioners Marofsky
Stulberg, Tierney, Wire and Zylla.
Commissioner Pierce arrived at 7:15 p.m.
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Coordinator Charles E.
Dillerud, and Associate Planner Al Cottingham
Chairman Plufka opened the meeting. He referred Commissioners
to the Metropolitan Development Guide that was sent out to the
Commissioners in their last packet. He noted that Page 20-22
of the Guide talks about developing communities and things
developing communities should look for in the development of
them.
Coordinator Dillerud discussed the handout on the items the
Commission had discussed at previous meetings and his thoughts
as to the commercial guidings. He pointed out the differences
between the CS and CN guided areas and issues with them. He
noted the CS guiding used to be used similar to a highway
commercial zone, pointing out that these were areas that should
not be adjacent to residential areas. He further stated that
the CN areas were located in either walking distance or a five
minute drive of all residences, and generally involved a multi -
tenant building.
Chairman Plufka stated that the CN and CC concept was brought
about in 1955 with the philosophy of the corner grocery store
and the central business district. He noted that currently
these similar needs are not met within the City and that
commercial centers are developing in the CS areas, which are
really more neighborhood centers. He stated that there was not
a need for the CC classification.
Commissioner Tierney noted there seemed to be eight points of
divergence between the CN/B-2 and CS/B-3 classifications. They
are: auto sales/repair, commercial recreation, equipment
rental, greenhouses and nurser_ys, motel/hotel, clubs, churches,
and financial institutions. She stated there was a need for
the separate classifications in order to keep uses out of some
districts.
Commissioner Marofsky stated there should not be a difference
between CS and CN, and, uses should only be permitted within
certain size commercial areas, thus limiting the size of the
structure by the size of the land areas for different
commercial areas.
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March 1, 1989
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Commissioner Stulberg noted the definitions for CS and CN
referred to free stranding structures in the CS area, and
multi -tenant structures in the CN area. It was appropriate to
have a clustering of uses within these categories. There was
not a need for a change in the guidings, but the guided areas
have maybe been confused over time, and should get back to what
the Comprehensive Plan refers to as the difference.
Commissioner Wire noted that the CN classification was adjacent
to the residential areas, and that there should be the
compatibility with the residential criteria for CN centers. He
said he understood that these centers were smaller in size, and
only to serve the neighborhoods - not like a Holiday Plus store
which serves a larger area.
Commissioner ' Pierce stated that the current trends are
responding to the different life styles, and that traffic
patterns change, and pedestrian traffic relatively doesn't
exist.
Commissioner Zylla said he felt there may be a need to preserve
the CN and CS designations based on the impacts to residential
areas by the commercial development. He suggested that the CS
and CC classifications could be combined. He said he could
support more commercial areas if they were done wisely, and in
accordance with performance standards.
Chairman Plufka stated there may be a need for a more generic
commercial classification with three separate levels. He also
suggested possibly redefining, but continuing to use, the CL,
CN, CS and CC classifications.
Commissioner Marofsky stated the CC guiding doesn't exist and
that he felt more comfortable with performance standards, or
with the C-1, C-2, C-3, approach.
Commissioner Zylla noted that if the City is more prescriptive
with the type of development we allow it shows developers that
we are concerned with the type of commercial uses they propose.
Chairman Plufka stated that he could see a CN center being
similar in size and nature as the Rockford Square Center at
County Road 9 and I-494; a CS area being more like the Holiday
Plus store; and a CC area for facilities like Cottonwood Plaza,
Four Seasons Mall, and the area around County Road 6 and County
Road 101.
Commissioner Pierce said that the service business district
should be based on traffic generations, and keeping the traffic
flows away from the residential areas.
The Commission discussed the possibility of changing
definitions and having small neighborhood centers, larger
neighborhood centers and free standing neighborhood centers at
different scales, based on the acreages.
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March 1, 1989
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Commissioner Stulberg noted that there were services being
provided to residents that are not always retail services, and
a zoning area needed to be designated for those. He did not
want to become too prescriptive in defining all the uses and
the exact location for them. He noted that the Commission did
not do a good job with preplanning commercial locations.
Downtown Plymouth is an example. The experts pick the
locations. He noted that the Land -Use Guide Plan idea isn't
"broken" its just the interpretation of the uses for it. He
noted his concerns with political decisions for these things.
Commissioner Marofsky suggested that the Commission should be
looking at a cormnercial PUD district.
Commissioner Zylla stated the CN classification should be
preserved. He stated that we should have a generic commercial
zoning with performance standards based on different locations.
Commissioner Pierce agreed with Commissioner Zylla on an open
commercial zoning, and use of a PUD approach for the
development of it.
Commissioner Wire stated that we should stay with what we have,
or close to that, however, abandon the CC concept area.
Commissioner Tierney agreed in staying close to what we
currently have, and maintain the special guiding for the
downtown area.
Chairman Plufka stated that the CC guiding should be eliminated
adjacent to City Hall and other guiding be inserted based on
the MPUD plan for that area.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that we should tighten up the
distinction between the CN and CS areas, and get back to what
the original intension was.
Associate Planner Cottingham reviewed the guiding in the
northeast corner of the City in the vicinity of County Road 10
and Highway 169. He pointed out that much of this area has had
a preliminary plat approved and thus it would be very difficult
to change the guiding in this area.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that he felt there was a need for
more commercial uses/service uses in the area of Schmidt Lake
Road and Nathan Lane or Highway 169 since people in that
general area would either need to drive south to the Holiday
Plus area or north to the Bass Lake Road area in order to get
some convenience shopping.
Associate Planner Cottingham reviewed the I-494 corridor
beginning at the north end of the City, and progressing
southward along the interstate as far as the Soo Line Railroad,
on the east side of the interstate. He pointed out that within
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this area there was only approximately 80 acres of land left
guided LA -3 that did not have proposals approved at this time.
He pointed out that Bass Lake Hills, even though it was LA -3
guiding, had single family homes adjacent to the freeway.
Commissioner Zylla noted that it was his understanding that the
Bass Lake Hills developer would have preferred his whole
development as single family, however, he needed to maintain
the density for the LA -3 area, and thus had to go out and find
a multifamily builder. He noted that, currently, the market
prefers single family detached homes, and he would convert the
LA -3 area if possible.
The Commission discussed options: leaving the guiding as is;
splitting the LA -3 area east to west, with higher density to
the west, and a lower density to the east; or lowering the
density on the entire area.
MOTION made by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner MOTION
Zylla to direct staff to allow developers to develop at a lower
density than the Guide Plan allows with no minimum density.
Roll Call Vote. 3 Ayes. Commissioners Zylla, Stulberg, VOTE - MOTION FAILED
Tierney and Chairman Plufka, Nay. MOTION Failed.
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Zylla to MOTION
direct staff to review the impact upon the City systems by
changing the LA -3 to LA -2 on the land north of the Soo Line
Railroad; east of I-494 and west of the County Road 61
corridor, except Bass Lake Hills.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. Commissioners Stulberg and Wire, Nay.
MOTION Carried.
Commissioner Wire stated the reason he voted against the motion
was that he felt that there was no reason to change the Guide
Plan until the Commission looked more in depth at the
locational criteria from the Guide Plan narrative.
Commissioner Maraofsky excused himself from the meeting due to
a client interest in the next area to be reviewed.
Associate Planner Cottingham continued reviewing the guiding on
the east side of I-494 south of the Soo Line Railroad, noting
that this area has no proposals approved and the land is
relatively vacant, except for a few single family homes. He
reviewed the history of the LA -2 and LA -3 configuration on the
east side of future Northwest Boulevard just north of County
Road 9.
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Zylla to MOTION
have staff look at the impact to the City systems of changing
the guiding of land from the Soo Line Railroad south to the
Hennepin County Trail Corridor; east of the interstate; and
west of future Northwest Boulevard from LA -3 to LA -2.
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March 1, 1989
Page 53
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioners Wire and Stulberg, Nay
MOTION Carried.
Commissioner Wire reiterated his opposition to these motions
due to the fact that the Commission has not established any
criteria, nor looked at the impact on any City systems on the
whole.
Chairman Plufka stated that he did not propose to change the
guiding further south and east of this area since he felt the
LA -3 in this area was a buffer between the lower densities to
the east and the large CN parcel located at the northeast
corner of County Road 9 and I-494.
Commissioner Zylla noted the large size of the CN parcel and,
in light of discussions earlier in the meeting, stated that the
Commission should be open minded on this size, and wait for
staff's interpretation of the guided areas.
Chairman Plufka stated he was not looking at this CN area, and
would not be, until he was satisfied with the commercial
classifications that are forthcoming.
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VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by Commissioner Pierce, seconded by Chairman Plufka to MOTION
direct staff to look at the reguiding of a portion of the LA -3
land on the east side of future Northwest Boulevard north of
County Road 9 to LA -2, keeping an LA -3 buffer along Northwest
Boulevard to allow for a continued buffering from the CN to the
west.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioners Wire and Stulberg,. Nay. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION Carried.
Chairman Plufka identified this as a good stopping point for
the meeting and that discussion would continue on this matter
after their normal business at the March 8, 1989 meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
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approximately -' :a.m.
The January secretary's report was accepted.
There was no treasurer's report. However-, Bill Nelson indicated that a
`•a2()00 refund check was received from West Hennepin Human Services
Planning Board, d, representing the balance of unused monies previously
scheduled for the proposed national coif erence on community-based
che'iT1ical abuse prevention survey, which has been tabled.
* Tim KcCarthy presented the rough draft of the proposed request for
document _
fundingCt.'cliT!E?ili_ �ct!i:cul.4lE=d to be Se'r"1't to t+!lSli!E=rem c:ni:j c:gt'lii=lcs 3.n
the two communities.
was discussion r ] the CAP public at i on, funded by
'�'Thera leas .� t_' !� ci I'" Ci 1 f i + the i !
li=+r+~lly solicited advrrti:_ir"';;:_:1 and how the Commission should react to
it.
:c Doris Bowe reported that The Plymouth Fire ard Ice Festival is
_=chc c'ul ed for Saturday, Feb. 4, 1989, from 2--5 p.m. The Commission
has i. . t_: i::' 1t asked to distribute"PleaseDon't Do Nothing" 11tti_r tags.
n It was reported that The West Hennepin i-il.i:ian Services Planning Board
will present lent a briefing on the f i %dings of tite Hennepin County Task
Force an Youth and Drugs, which met for two years 4. n j, r the leadership
oi County Commissioner 5 <_i f %1 _. l v s n l 1= 1 1 . i i 'r.= event 1 tl scheduled for
February 15. 193?,
9--, aT10 =.-. It t _ a Minnetonka
7nn_t_7ra C]ty Hall
1CQtti!Cll
Chambers.
Gary Swedberg presented:
1. A request ?or funding from WWJH AND i+i=JH for the eight grade
Health classes' ,:Drug-free pledge pins students received after signing
+_ h m pledge, and
2. 1 -,a used s t y' PTO s•pcnsc•red
1 i i [? poster t. t? i^ d is � 1 t� n wl �. l•_ J a+ t. v r- e'r'rl .=3 i'v U G d iG 1 L -i' (; i l_ f'i c! !'-
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par •1-ii+._/studant evening, which was developed to encc:ur age parents and
children to discuss standard setting.
1. Wayzata SaniC_.r riiCh School has been selected as one of the 104)
schools nation-wide for is site visit as a Drug --Fr f -_e School Award
applicant. Therewsre 400 applications submitted for the a 3_lyd this
year. The site visit is slated for l_ -ch i 2, 193,
with v<:ri,-yrs
members s l'f the Commission as participants.
''i•. The Wayzata Senior Hiah School Leadership Conference .is
__hL-_1_d r. cr April 19,
9, i 98
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5. El :c'fient Ery principals have reported that their T.A.T. te;-: ms
(teachers/staff who have undergone specific training in early
k -
identification of children at risk) are a great success, and
6. A panel of students discussing drug use will be the focus of the ^
Parent Communication Network meeting at WWJH, February 23, 19B9.
* A request for funding was made by Susan Fetterer for promotion of
the Parents' Pledge project at Wayzata Senior High. The Commissicn
voted to allocate $400.
* Greg Lindberg led a discussion of studies and proposed legislation
relating 'to the escalating use of drugs among pregnant women resulting
in a high incidence of addicted/damaged newborns.
* The Commission voted to approach the local newspapers for POblic
Service Advertising space to promote chemical health ads taken from
the "Newspaper Advertising Student Competiticn 1987-B8" booklet.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 a.m.
The next meeting will be held March 10, 1989, at The Depot in Wayzata.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
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March 6, 1989
Plymouth City Council
c/o Mayor Virgil Schneider
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, Minnesota 55447
Dear Mayor Schneider:
T • \0 C4.,
On January 19, 1989, a Hazelden representative and an architect met with
the City Planner, Engineer, Fire Marshal and Building Codes Inspector
to discuss technical and procedural guidelines for our proposed building
plans. On January 27, 1989, we received a letter from Mr. Al Cottingham,
Associate Planner, informing us of a moratorium on all building or
expansion of residential facilities in the City of Plymouth. I telephoned
Mr. Dillerud who was quite helpful in providing me some additional
background information on the moratorium. I also discussed the mora-
torium with City Council member, Bob Zitur. Mr. Zitur suggested that
I direct a letter to you and other City officials explaining concerns
about the moratorium, as well as our ideas for future expansion at
Hazelden Pioneer House. This is a new process for us. It is our wish
to work fully within the City of Plymouth guidelines.
I want to formally thank the City of Plymouth on behalf of Hazelden Pioneer
House. Since Hazelden acquired Pioneer House from the Union City Mission,
we have appreciated the support of the Plymouth community. Community
support has perhaps best been demonstrated by extensive local partici-
pation in our annual "Easy Does It" 8K Race. This race draws over 600
runners annually from the local area, as well as other parts of the
state, and has become an annual community celebration. We greatly ap-
preciate this community involvement and look forward to a deepening
positive relationship with the Plymouth community.
As many of you know, Hazelden Pioneer House is the new facility situated
near the north shore of Medicine Lake. We are surrounded by trees which
screen us from view by neighborhood residents. Our long driveway serves
to seclude us from the neighborhood. We have worked to beautify and
maintain the Hazelden Pioneer House grounds in ways that contribute to
the Plymouth community. We have worked in the past to be both cooperative
and timely in response to any City requests or inspections. In short,
we are committed to a growing positive relationship with the Plymouth
community in our mission to provide chemical dependency rehabilitation
services to youth.
An Equal Opportunity Employer
11505 36TH AVENUE NORTH. PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441-2398 — (612) 559-2022
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Plymouth City Council
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March 6, 1989
We have also sought to share with the community some of our experience
related to alcohol and drug abuse. An example of this is our 6 -year
project with Armstrong High School. More than 550 students each year spend
a morning at Hazelden Pioneer House. Hazelden Pioneer House patients
volunteer, under supervision, to tell Armstrong students about their
personal alcohol and drug problems. We believe this experience helps
the youth of this community make responsible choices about alcohol and drug
use. The Armstrong teachers involved with this project have told us
that their students identify this experience as one of the highlights
of the class.
Programmatically, Hazelden Pioneer House is carefully structured. Our
clients are scheduled from 6:00 a.m. until midnight. We are staffed
around the clock. There are clear expectations for how clients use their
free time. They are instructed that they must remain on our grounds or
they will be discharged from the program. Clients who have left our
program without our knowledge (AWOL) have averaged less than 1% over a
4 -year period. All other patients are provided transportation by either
their parents or Hazelden back to their home or another facility. This
has minimized client contact with the surrounding neighbors. We go about
our business in a quiet way. This is an important part of our commitment
to the Plymouth community.
In other words we hope the City of Plymouth will carefully note our
efforts to maintain positive community relations when considering our
request to add on to our facility. It is our hope that the current
moratorium be lifted soon to allow for consideration of our building
proposal.
Proposed Building Project
The proposed building project is designed to meet the needs of our current
population. The plan will add 11 beds, plus office space and meeting
rooms. Four of these beds will be classified through licensure as
detoxification beds. This does not mean we will be creating additional
detoxification services. These beds will be utilized by Hazelden Pioneer
House only for the medical needs of our clients. Currently our procedure
is to transfer clients who come to us in need of medical services such
as detoxification to our Center City location (60 miles away), where they
are assessed and returned to Hazelden Pioneer House the next day. Since
we work with youth, not that many of our clients have these medical needs,
but for those who do, we wish to spare the anxiety and discomfort of the
car ride to Center City.
While Union City Mission (Hazelden Pioneer House is not affiliated with
the Union City Mission) also provides detoxification services in the
immediate vicinity, it serves an older age group, many of whom are
brought by the police. This differs significantly from our clients who
Plymouth City Council
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March 6, 1989
are younger and who have agreed to enter a rehabilitation program.
Through careful study we have found it is not effective for youth entering
Hazelden Pioneer House to receive detoxification care at the Union City
Mission.
The additional seven beds requested will be an expansion of our existing
services. Hazelden Pioneer House has developed a reputation in both the
local and national community for providing effective and affordable
chemical dependency treatment for youth. We have had professionals from
around the world, including the Soviet Union, Japan and many European
countries travel here to discuss our rehabilitation program. Our waiting
list, particularly fo our evaluation services, is long at times. We
wish to shorten that list by the addition of these beds. Staffing will
be adjusted to ensure proper coverage.
The remainder of the proposed building project is designed to upgrade our
current meeting rooms for families and provide additional office space
for our staff. Staff size has nearly doubled since the Hazelden acquisition
of Pioneer House in 1981 (currently over 70 employees). This request is,
again, to ensure quality treatment through increased client supervision.
With the increase in staff, there is also need for expanded parking.
Part of the building project includes a large meeting room (capacity 105)
which we would make available to community groups upon request. This
would hopefully be another way of demonstrating our appreciation for the
support of the Plymouth community.
Please note: we wish to build onto our existing structure. The new
addition will be no more visible to the community than our current
building. Our driveway will remain unchanged. We feel the impact on the
community will be minimal.
In summary, the proposed building project at Hazelden Pioneer House will
give us the ability to better meet the needs of our current clientele. We
are looking to the Plymouth community for their continued support in our
work of addressing the alcohol and drug problems of youth.
Please accept my invitation to phone me and I will personally conduct a
tour for you and answer any questions you might have.
Sincerely. �Q
Michael A. Schiks
Program Director
c: Blair Tremir
Chuck Dillerud
MAS:lkm
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE: March 9. 1989
TO. James G. Willis - City Manager
FROM:
Richard J. Carlquist - Public Safety Director
SUBJECT SNOWMOBILE UPDATE
This past evening, I met with members of the Northwest Trails Snowmobile Club,
including the president Bob Ford. We went over the complaints received this winter on
snowmobiles and plotted them on a City map. There were a total of 42 complaints
received so far.
In one case, we noted that from all appearances and the analysis of the incident
complaint reports, that one person or other persons living at the same residence were
responsible for 10 calls. I spoke with one of the complainants last night by phone
and identified the underlying reasons for the complaints.
Apparently, there are renters living approximately three houses away from the com-
plainant. The snowmobilers start their machines up late at night (in some cases we
have received calls as late as 2:00 A.M.). The main complaint then is not trespassing
or other illegal acts of snowmobiling; but, noise disturbance complaints. I will be
personally contacting the source of all these problems to hopefully alleviate future
calls.
1 do not believe that 42 complaints in our entire City is significant; especially when
one analyzes the data further. For example, in one case we received a complaint of a
young child driving a snowmobile on a City street. When we checked it out, we found
the person to be 18 years of age. There have not been many trespassing or riding in
areas that are prohibited, such as parks and school grounds.
The Northwest Trail Snowmobile Club remains enthusiastic about helping us with posting
of signs and resolving complaints. I guess it is a reality of life that one or two
persons can ruin it for everyone else.
RJC:gs