HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 11-02-1999Adopted Minutes
Regular Council Meeting
November 2, 1999
A Regular Meeting of the Plymouth City Council was called to order by Mayor Tierney at 8:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers of the City Center, 3400 Plymouth Boulevard, on November 2,
1999. Boy Scout Troop 570 presented the colors.
COUNCIL PRESENT: Mayor Tierney, Councilmembers Brown, Black, Harstad, Bildsoe,
Johnson, and Slavik.
ABSENT: None.
STAFF PRESENT: City Manager Johnson, Assistant Manager Ahrens, Police Lieutenant Ward,
Community Development Director Hurlburt, Public Works Director Moore, Parks and
Recreation Director Blank, City Attorney Knutson, and City Clerk Paulson.
Plymouth Forum
Michael Phelan, 17465 48'h Place North, stated they reside off County Road 101 and Schmidt
Lake Road. He stated in the mornings there is much traffic, and it is very difficult to make a left
hand turn off Schmidt Lake Road onto Peony Lane. He stated the amount of traffic is partially
due to Wayzata High School. In the past, the Police Department has assisted in controlling the
traffic by supplying a police officer; however, this could not continue due to budget constraints.
He stated the number of accidents in this area is significant. He stated he spoke with the
principal of the high school, and the school would not be assigning a crossing guard at this
intersection as it is too dangerous. He has spoken with other neighborhood residents, and they
are very interested in a solution for this traffic problem. He also spoke with City Engineer
Faulkner, and he indicated there is no immediate plan for a traffic control device in this area, but
eventually there would be a signalized intersection when Schmidt Lake Road connects to
Vicksburg Lane.
Mayor Tierney acknowledged this is a serious problem and she has spoken with the Police
Department. Police Lieutenant Ward stated he isn't aware of any specific issue or the funding;
however, he sympathizes with the residents' concerns. He stated it is difficult to designate a
police officer to this intersection when the morning hours are a peak time of the day for police
calls.
Councilmember Bildsoe suggested this item be discussed at the November 16, 1999 Council
meeting, and he requested staff to prepare options for the Council to consider.
Mr. Phelan also mentioned the high speed levels of vehicles traveling this roadway.
Councilmember Bildsoe stated the State sets the speed limits not the City.
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Mayor Tierney stated the Council would be discussing this item at the November 16, 1999
Council meeting.
Presentations and Public Information Announcements
4.1) Announcement of "America Recycles Day"
Councilmember Black read the proclamation declaring November 15, 1999 as "America
Recycles Day." She gave a brief presentation on what individuals can recycle as well as what
products are made from recycled materials.
4.2) Proclamation of Housing Week
Mayor Tierney read the proclamation declaring November 15-21, 1999 as "Housing Week."
LaDonna Hoy reported on the activities planned for the week, and Bob Fisher discussed the
proposed sleep out which is scheduled for November 19, 1999. Three scouts from Boy Scout
Troop 570 stated they would be participating in the sleep out.
Approval of Agenda
Councilmember Black requested to add a report on a recent Metropolitan Council Meeting as
item No. 9.3. Councilmember Harstad requested to add a report on Association of Metropolitan
Municipalities' policy priority list as item No. 9.4. Mayor Tierney requested to add the request
of Wayzata Schools to modify the Dial -a -Ride Ridership Policy as item No. 9.5. Lastly,
Councilmember Brown requested to add the request for an update on School District 281
facilities reorganization as item No. 9.6.
Motion was made by Councilmember Black, seconded by Councilmember Bildsoe, to approve
the amended agenda. With all members voting in favor, the motion carried.
Consent Agenda
6.01-6.14) Motion was made by Councilmember Bildsoe, and seconded by Councilmember
Johnson to approve the Consent Agenda which included the following items:
6.01: Approval of proposed City Council Minutes (Regular Meeting of October 19, 1999, and
Joint City Council/Planning Commission Meeting of October 26, 1999).
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6.02: Resolution Approving Disbursements for the Period Ending October 22, 1999 (Res99-
459).
6.03: Resolution Approving an Agreement for Building Construction at 13120 County Road 6
Res99-460).
6.04: Resolution Approving Lot Division/Lot Consolidation for Carlson Real Estate Company,
Inc. for Properties Located at 865 and 1105 Xenium Lane North (99109 — Res99-461).
6.05: Resolution Amending Resolution 98-731 for Site Plan Amendment, Conditional Use
Permit Amendment and Interim Use Permit and Resolution 98-732 for Lot Division/Lot
Consolidation for Carlson Real Estate Company for Country Inns and Suites Located at 210
Carlson Parkway to Amend Conditions Relating to Easements (98179-2 — Res99-462).
6.06: Approval of Third Quarter 1999 Financial Report.
6.07: Resolution Reducing Required Financial Guarantee for Plum Tree East Addition (94090 —
Res99-463), Resolution Reducing Required Financial Guarantee for North Country Estates
97023 — Res99-464), Resolution Reducing Required Financial Guarantee for Plum Tree 4th
Addition (98019 — Res99-465), and Resolution Reducing Required Financial Guarantee for Plum
Tree East 2nd Addition (98128 — Res99-466).
6.08: Resolution Adopting Assessments for Sanitary Sewer Area (9021 — Res99-468).
6.09: Resolution Authorizing the Installation of "No Parking" Signs on Berkshire Lane — 42nd
Avenue to County Road 9 (Res99-469).
6.10: Resolution Finding No Objection to Lawful Gambling Exemption for Sunset Hill PTA
Res99-470).
6.11: Resolution Ordering Public Hearing on the Vacation of Part of the Drainage and Utility
Easements within Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, and Lots 2 and 3, Block 1 of Frenchie LaPointe
Addition (Res99-471).
6.12: Resolution Ordering Public Hearing on the Vacation of Part of a Drainage and Utility
Easement within Lot 25, Block 3, Cornerstone Commons (Res99-472).
6.13: Resolution Approving Settlement Agreement on Prevailing Wage Requirements on the
Plymouth Ice Center (Res99-473).
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6.14: Resolution Adopting Name for Park Property (Shenandoah Park at Vicksburg Lane and
22°d Avenue — Res99-474).
With all members voting in favor, the motion carried.
Public Hearings
7.1) Public Improvement Hearing for City Center Area Street Lighting Improvements
Project 9020)
Public Works Director Moore illustrated the proposed project and stated this project is part of the
Council's overall plan for the City Center area. Lights would be installed on Plymouth
Boulevard, 37th Avenue, and 34th Avenue. The estimated construction cost of the project is
322,818 with an annual operation and maintenance cost of $8,204. It is proposed that a portion
of the cost of the improvement be assessed to the benefiting properties. Since the City owns a
majority of the property for public facilities, it is estimated that the City's cost would be
209,581, which would be paid from the allocated tax increment financing funds. The estimated
balance of $113,237 would be assessed to the remaining property owners. This lighting would
provide safety and aesthetics to the area and would encourage pedestrian usage not only during
the day but at night. The proposed lighting is similar to the amphitheater area.
Councilmember Harstad asked how close the lights would be to Plymouth Boulevard. Public
Works Director Moore stated staff would study and review the area so that the lights wouldn't
have to be removed or relocated in the future. Accommodation would be made for the existing
street and any streetscaping improvements proposed in the future such as on -street parking.
Councilmember Black asked if it is correct that the City wouldn't be narrowing the center
islands. Public Works Director Moore stated that is correct.
Mayor Tierney opened the public hearing for testimony.
William Gore, 3850 Plymouth Boulevard, Unit 121, stated the lighting proposed is for a
downtown area not a residential area. Therefore, the City should pay for this lighting. He stated
all the parking lots have their own lights, and the residents would rarely use this lighting. He
stated this is downtown Plymouth, and everyone should share in the cost of the improvement.
Darlene Gore, 3850 Plymouth Boulevard, Unit 121, asked if the Plymouth Ice Center and
LifeTime Fitness Center are being assessed. Staff stated the City owns the property, but
LifeTime Fitness would be paying an assessment according to the management contract with the
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City. Ms. Gore stated she understands the lighting is for safety features, but she questioned the
type of lighting being proposed.
LeRoy Gall, 3850 Plymouth Boulevard, Unit 317, stated the lights would cost approximately
4,000 each which seems high. He asked if the Council would consider other alternatives or
redesigning of the area. He stated Plymouth Boulevard is a major thoroughfare, and the entire
community should absorb the cost of the lighting.
Arlene Coe, 3850 Plymouth Boulevard, stated their condominiums shouldn't be assessed like a
small building. She agreed with Mr. Gall that the entire City should fund the lighting as the
lighting is not for the residents in their building.
There being no one else wishing to appear before the Council to give testimony, Mayor Tierney
declared the public hearing closed.
Public Works Director Moore responded that within the entire City, the residents who utilize
lights pay for them. The residents pay for the capital, maintenance, and operation costs of the
lights on their utility bills.
He explained the capital costs for this project are paid initially and there would be less
maintenance costs. He stated the entire City is sharing in the cost of this project, and the
assessments are based on the City's assessment policy. He stated the LifeTime Fitness Center
has a lease agreement with the City. All this property is accounted for, and the remaining
property owners are not paying for that assessment. He stated each light costs approximately
3,700. This cost includes the wiring, operational systems, restoring of the ground, and the
fixture. Maintenance and operation of these lights is $.20 per condominium unit per month.
Lastly, all the parking lot lights are paid for by the private property owners, and those lights
service the private properties.
Councilmember Johnson asked what the assessment is for each of the condominiums. Public
Works Director Moore replied approximately $106.
Councilmember Johnson asked if Town Square would be assessed. Public Works Director
Moore responded yes.
Councilmember Johnson asked how the number of lights is determined. Public Works Director
Moore stated the lighting levels are contained in the national standards. The proposed spacing of
the lights is closer along Plymouth Boulevard which would give a higher lighting level. He
stated the lights are 15' in height and contain cut-off shields so they won't shine directly into
peoples' homes.
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Councilmember Johnson asked if there is any type of signage or signalization proposed for the
Plymouth Boulevard and County Road 9 intersection. Public Works Director Moore stated this
is a County road; therefore, approval would be given by the County. The County has considered
signals, but he is unsure if the traffic count warrants signals. Councilmember Black requested
staff to contact the County to determine the status of this intersection and if there could be a
traffic study at this intersection. She noted that this intersection is becoming a difficult
intersection.
Councilmember Slavik asked if there are other options to reduce the cost of each light fixture.
Public Works Director Moore stated the cost of these fixtures is typical.
Motion was made by Councilmember Bildsoe, seconded by Councilmember Brown to adopt a
Resolution Ordering Improvement and Preparation of Plans and Specifications for City Center
Area Street Lighting, City Project 9020 (Res99-475). Councilmember Bildsoe stressed the need
for this project which is to improve the safety for pedestrians and drivers.
Councilmember Johnson asked at the assessment hearing, how would the terms of the
assessments be decided for the condominiums. Public Works Director Moore stated the Council
would make that decision at that hearing, and if the residents meet the guidelines of the senior
citizen deferment policy, their assessment would be deferred.
Councilmember Slavik reiterated that two-thirds of the total cost of the project is being paid by
the City which includes all residents.
Mayor Tierney stated there would be additional streetscaping enhancements in the future for this
area.
Ms. Gore stressed that this is a City project, and a number of residents cannot afford this
assessment. There are improvements to their building in which their proposed assessment could
be applied to rather than this project.
Councilmember Slavik asked if a majority of City residents pay a monthly fee for street lighting.
Public Works Director Moore replied yes.
There being no further discussion and with all members voting in favor, the motion carried.
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General Business
8.1) Adopt Assessment for Fisher parcel for 1998 Street Reconstruction Program, Harbor
Lane area north of 7 t Avenue (Project 8001)
Public Works Director Moore reported back to the Council regarding Elaine Fisher's assessment
for Project No. 8001. He stated there was some miscommunication between Ms. Fisher, staff,
and the contractor. However, the City performed in accordance to what was committed. He
showed pictures of Ms. Fisher's property and her fences, and he also stated Ms. Fisher was
compensated for the easement for the storm sewer.
Councilmember Harstad asked about the condition of the sod. Public Works Director Moore
stated there was some sod that had to be replaced, and the contractor has a 30 -day growing
period, but that period won't expire until next spring. Currently, the sod looks very good, but the
contractor hasn't had a 30 -day growing period.
Councilmember Slavik stated it is her understanding that the City incurred costs in removing an
old septic system. Public Works Director Moore stated yes as it was in the path of the storm
sewer pipe.
Motion was made by Councilmember Black, and seconded by Councilmember Bildsoe to adopt
a Resolution Adopting Assessments for City Project No. 8001-2A, 1998 Street Reconstruction
PIN 33-118-22-14-0031 Harbor Lane Area (Res99-476). With all members voting in favor, the
motion carried.
8.2) Approve Preliminary Plat, Site Plan, Conditional Use Permit and Variances for a
Private PreK-12 school to be located north of Schmidt Lake Road between Quantico Lane
North and Minnesota Lane North (Providence Academy — Project 99088)
Community Development Director Hurlburt reported on this proposed project. She stated the
proposed school site is approximately 41 acres in size and is located north of Schmidt Lake
Road, approximately mid -way between Fernbrook Lane and Vicksburg Lanes. The school
would be constructed in phases and would eventually serve up to 950 students. The first phase
would include core building support elements (library, commons, cafeteria, and kitchen), two
gymnasiums, three athletic fields, shop, music and science rooms, and classrooms for
approximately 320 students (300 lower and middle school and 20 high school). As enrollment
increase, the school would add classrooms, two additional gymnasiums, and potentially a
swimming pool, auditorium, and chapel.
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She illustrated the preliminary plat, and stated staff reviewed the drainage, storm water drainage,
tree preservation, park dedication, and trail elements. She stated there are easements which need
to be vacated, and the Council would be conducting a separate hearing for the vacations.
She explained the site plan was reviewed to consider the setbacks, parking, pedestrian facilities,
building coverage, impervious coverage, wetland regulations, etc. The site exceeds the parking
requirements, and the extra spaces that are being provided will be adequate. She stated there is
additional area to add more parking spaces if necessary.
She stated one issue that was raised by the residents at the Planning Commission meeting was
the lighting on the site. She explained the lighting would be at a fairly low level so it is
compatible with the neighborhood and adheres to the lighting standards.
She discussed the criteria of the Conditional Use Permit that included the Comprehensive Plan,
public welfare, impact on surrounding property, orderly development of surrounding property,
public facilities, district regulations, and performance standards. She stated some adjacent
residents had concerns on noise from the athletic facilities which would be constructed in the
second phase. Staff has required that the applicant submit a sound source plan which is similar
to what has been required of other schools.
She stated the requested Variances that are for building height exceeding 35 feet, fence height
exceeding three feet in the front yard, and more than one freestanding sign. Regarding the
building height, she illustrated the proposed design of the building. The extra fence height
requested is for safety to keep the children off of Schmidt Lake Road, and the fence would not
distract visibility from the road. She stated regarding the freestanding signs, they would be
placed on the gateway elements of the fence.
She stated as part of the report, staff is recommending a six-year project phasing schedule. Any
deviation from this plan would need to be presented to staff.
She mentioned that amended copies of the resolutions have been given to the Council this
evening (typographical errors).
Councilmember Slavik asked for an explanation of three equalivancy rating. Anne stated three
small trees to one large.
Councilmember Bildsoe asked if there are any elements in the 2020 plans that would affect this
development. Public Works Director Moore stated there are no proposed Fernbrook intersection
improvements. However, left turn lanes would be constructed on Vicksburg Lane.
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Councilmember Brown asked when the traffic control plans would need to be prepared by the
applicant. Community Development Director Hurlburt stated at the second phase.
Councilmember Brown asked how that plan is evaluated. Community Development Director
Hurlburt stated usually the plans contain how to direct traffic, characteristics of each site, and
nature of events.
Councilmember Harstad asked how this project is related to the park and recreation plan. Parks
and Recreation Blank stated staff would like to have the opportunity to utilize some of the
facilities i.e. the soccer facilities, tennis courts, and gymnasiums. Community Development
Director Hurlburt stated the applicant would be allocating funds for park dedication, and staff
would negotiate for trails and the City's in-kind use of the school's facilities.
Terry Schneider, applicant, stated staff has assembled a very thorough report, and he would be
willing to answer any Council questions.
Dan Frederick, applicant, stated there is a shortage of private schools in the metro area, and there
are waiting lists. Providence Academy has the land, financial ability, commitment, willingness,
enthusiasm, and dedication to construct a private school. In addition, they commit themselves to
be a good neighbor and a valuable asset to the community.
Councilmember Johnson asked if the school would be in session September through May and
have the summers off. Community Development Director Hurlburt stated that is correct.
Councilmember Johnson stated the traffic counts should decrease during the summer months.
Councilmember Bildsoe stated the reason why there is large traffic volumes is not because of
this project but everyone trying to utilize all of the City's roads.
Greg Pulles, 4625 Xene Lane, requested the Council's support of this project as it would be a
fabulous addition to the community.
Susan Addy, 18010 33`
d Place North, spoke in favor of the project. She stated this project
improves the property values and educational values. Currently, the City residents do not have
the opportunity to enroll their children in a private school. Therefore, she requested the Council
approve this application.
Terrence Koop, 12467 54`h Avenue North, stated he is very excited about this development. He
stated this development is a sign of classical curriculum and the commitment from the board.
Peter Seltz, 4800 Cheshire Lane, urged the Council to approve this project.
Michelle Conlon, 5015 Ximines Lane North, expressed her support for this project.
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Julie Achterkirch, 4645 Underwood Lane, stated she owns property across from this
development. She stated this development is a huge asset to the community, and it would
provide residents another educational opportunity for their children.
Motion was made by Councilmember Bildsoe, and seconded by Councilmember Johnson to
adopt the amended Resolution Approving Preliminary Plat for Providence Academy, Located
North of Schmidt Lake Road between Quantico Lane North and Minnesota Lane North (99088 —
Res99-477), and the amended Resolution Approving Site Plan, Conditional Use Permit and
Variances for Providence Academy for a Pre -K through 12 College Preparatory School on
Property Located north of Schmidt Lake Road between Quantico Lane North and Minnesota
Lane North (99088 — Res99-478). Councilmembers Bildsoe and Johnson expressed their
appreciation and support to the applicants in selecting the City as the site for this school. With
all members voting in favor, the motion carried.
8.3) Consideration of a Petition for "All Way Stop Signs at 24th Avenue/Yuma Lane in
Fox Run Addition.
Public Works Director Moore illustrated the proposed request. He stated currently there is an all
way stop at
24th and Yuma Lane due to a walkway and trail at this intersection. He explained
this petition is for an all -way stop for the next block. It appears that there would be traffic
utilizing this roadway to travel from Dunkirk and Vicksburg Lanes. He stated since staff
received the petition, traffic counts were taken on the 25th Avenue just west of Vicksburg Lane
and on 24th Avenue just east of Dunkirk Lane in order to estimate the volume of possible through
traffic. It appears that there is a significant amount of through traffic between Vicksburg Lane
and Dunkirk Lane on 25th Avenue and 24th Avenue. He stated based on the 96 lots within the
Fox Run Development and the transportation standard of 10 daily trips per household, one would
expect approximately 960 total trips from this neighborhood. The adjusted traffic counts indicate
a total volume of 1,470 daily trips or approximately 53% more than would be expected. This
amount of through traffic would meet one of the criteria for allowing the consideration of speed
humps to be placed along this route between Vicksburg Lane and Dunkirk Lane, i.e. over 50%
through traffic. Overall, since there is an all way stop just one block away, staff doesn't feel
another stop sign should be installed but perhaps a warning sign.
Pat Riley, 2380 Yuma Lane, Public Safety Director of the Fox Run Homeowners Association,
stated he has been working closely with City Engineer Faulkner. He submitted a petition on
behalf of their homeowners association requesting an "all -way" stop sign at 20 Avenue/Yuma
Lane and Yuma Lane. He explained to the east of their neighborhood there are new residential
developments, and to the west there are commercial developments. He stated approximately
75% (700 cars per day) of the traffic in the neighborhood is not from the neighborhood. He
stated there are documented problems with drivers in this area. He explained with the stop sign
they would be discouraging people from traveling through their neighborhood.
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Motion was made by Mayor Tierney, and seconded by Councilmember Bildsoe to adopt a
Resolution Approving Request for "All -Way Stop at 24 Avenue/Yuma Lane and Yuma. Lane
Res99-479). Mayor Tierney stated this action would assist in decreasing the speed of the traffic
and accidents.
Councilmember Black expressed her concern in the Council deviating from their stop sign
policy. She stated perhaps the Council should review their stop sign policy.
Manager Johnson commented the actual measurements do meet the City's policy.
Councilmember Bildsoe commented that the traffic study completed at this time exceeds the
threshold. In addition, this also addresses the growing issue in the City, based on the City
survey, which is traffic concerns.
Councilmember Black commented according to the neighborhood survey, there are 42% of the
residents who didn't have a strong feeling for speed humps or traffic control signs. However,
she would have no problem in approving the stop sign if that was the Council's desire.
Motion made by Councilmember Slavik, and seconded by Councilmember Johnson to amend the
rules to extend the meeting to 10:45 p.m. With all members voting in favor, the motion carried.
Roll call was then taken on the main motion, and with all members voting in favor, the motion
carried.
8.4) Approve Tiered Water Rates and Eliminate Residential Meter Demand Charges and
Private Hydrant Inspection Fees
Finance Director Hahn stated a request was presented to staff to review whether the private
hydrant inspection fees and residential demand charges could be eliminated. After review, staff
is recommending these fees/charges be eliminated January 1, 2000. With the elimination of
these charges, it would reduce the City's revenue. Therefore, staff is recommending
implementing tiered water rates for residential customers and removing the special senior rate
effective May 1, 2000. The commercial rates would increase by 6.67% in 2000. All rates would
need to be increased by 2% per year beginning in 2001. He informed the Council that the City
has not had a water rate increase since 1987. The current rate has been sufficient to cover the
City's cost since that time. However, the City must undertake a number of significant capital
improvements over the next 15 years which will require additional revenues.
Councilmember Harstad stated he is concerned the larger users may want to construct their own
well if a tiered system is implemented.
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Manager Johnson stated the tiered rates only apply to residential rates, and commercial users are
excluded.
Councilmember Brown asked how the commercial rate is increased. Finance Director Hahn
stated there would be an annual increase of two percent beginning in 2001.
Councilmember Johnson asked how apartment buildings would be charged. Finance Director
Hahn replied the apartment buildings would be treated individually as residential.
Councilmember Slavik asked why commercial users wouldn't be charged a tier rate. Finance
Director Hahn stated staff has not had time to analyze this and the sprinkling meters.
Councilmember Slavik stated she is not comfortable in not including the commercial users in the
tiered rate system.
Manager Johnson stated demand charges would still be in effect for the commercial properties.
Both residential and commercial properties are paying for the demand.
Councilmember Black asked if it is correct that the commercial rates would be reviewed next
year. Finance Director Hahn stated that is correct.
Duane Marholz, 5550 Nathan Lane, No. 2, Treasurer and Board Member of Hickory Hills
Condominiums, stated in their development there are 98 individually owned residential units,
and there is only one meter in each of their 20 buildings. There would be less demand if there
were individual meters. He requested the Council's support implementing the tiered water rates
for residential customers.
Motion was made by Councilmember Johnson, seconded by Councilmember Bildsoe to remove
residential demand charges and residential private hydrant inspection fees, implement tiered rate
structure for residential customers, and eliminate special senior rate (Ord99-26, Ord99-27, and
Ord99-28). Councilmember Slavik commented she would not support this motion because the
Council would be eliminating the senior citizen rate, and the commercial users are not included
in the tiered water rates.
Councilmember Johnson stressed that senior citizens are not being penalized.
There being no further discussion and with all members voting in favor of the motion but Slavik,
the motion carried.
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Reports and Recommendations
Motion was made by Councilmember Johnson, and seconded by Councilmember Bildsoe to act
on item No. 9.1 before item 9.2. With all members voting in favor, the motion carried.
9.2) Consider Eliminating On -Street Parking on Plymouth Boulevard near LifeTime
Fitness/Plymouth Ice Center (requested by Councilmember Harstad)
Manager Johnson stated staff has been considering permanent changes in the streetscape plans
on Plymouth Boulevard. He stated there have not been any recent studies undertaken to
determine if there is sufficient parking for the Ice Center and LifeTime Fitness. He
acknowledged that the barrels on Plymouth Boulevard in front of LifeTime Fitness are not the
most attractive. He stated staff is recommending either eliminating the on -street parking or
continuing the on -street parking and replacing the existing barrels with flexible, fiberglass posts
until a more permanent solution is identified.
Councilmember Harstad stated the 25 additional on -street parking stalls could create problems
for the plowing of the street. However, he has heard that some people prefer these spots on the
street even though there could be spots in the parking lot. The exception could be made if there
is a special event at the Ice Center, and the City knows that there is going to be an overflow.
Manager Johnson stated regarding the issue of special events, there are one to two special events
per week throughout most of the winter. Councilmember Harstad clarified that the major events
he was referring to were the hockey tournaments during the winter.
Councilmember Brown asked staff if there are other alternatives. Manager Johnson replied there
is the opportunity for shared parking with future City Center developments, as well as future
streetscaping improvements to allow for on -street parking.
Ralph Durand, 15145 38th Avenue North, representing Park Brook Townhouses Association,
stated he received a copy of the staff report which explains the need for additional parking during
special events and that the membership of LifeTime Fitness is increasing. The report also
addresses the unattractiveness of the barrels, and the City's recommendation to make the barrels
more attractive. He said there was no mention in the report that the traffic should be slowed
down. He stated the problem would continue to grow as LifeTime Fitness increases its
memberships. He questioned at what point is the membership unreasonable for the size of the
club. He stated prior to this evening's meeting, he surveyed the parking lot, and there were 117
empty spaces in the lot with nine cars parked on Plymouth Boulevard. Therefore, he doesn't feel
the on -street parking is necessary. He requested the City remove the barrels unless there are
special events, and when the City is prepared to review the streetscaping improvements, the
Council can make their final decision at that time.
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Mayor Tierney asked if Lifetime Fitness is utilizing their shuttle. Parks and Recreation Director
Blank stated no one currently uses it.
Councilmember Johnson asked what would be involved in using the barrels for only special
events. Public Works Director Moore stated it's not only the barrels, but there would be warning
signs in advance of the intersection that would need to be removed and replaced continuously.
Parks and Recreation Director Blank addressed the membership of LifeTime Fitness, and he
stated the membership has been pretty stable at 10,400. However, he noted that Plymouth
residents seeking a membership are not denied.
The Council asked Mr. Durand if he is opposed to on -street parking. Mr. Durand stated he is
opposed to this small area being used for on street parking when the remainder of Plymouth
Boulevard doesn't have on -street parking.
Councilmember Johnson asked if it is difficult for the City to plow around these spaces. Public
Works Director Moore stated it's not really an issue due to the snow emergencies after major
snowfalls and the no parking restriction from 2 a.m. to 5 a.m.
Parks and Recreation Director Blank stated in regard to the City's relationship with LifeTime
Fitness, the City Center area was designed for shared parking to meet the demands of peak hours.
In 1998, the City expanded the parking lot by 105 stalls, and LifeTime Fitness shared in the cost.
LifeTime Fitness also pays for improvements to the lot.
Motion was made by Councilmember Bildsoe, and seconded by Councilmember Black to amend
the rules to extend the meeting to 11:30 p.m. With all members voting in favor, the motion
carried.
Motion was made by Mayor Tierney, seconded by Councilmember Black to continue with the
on -street parking and replace the existing barrels with flexible, fiberglass posts until a more
permanent solution is identified in relation to the overall streetscaping plan for Plymouth
Boulevard.
Councilmember Black suggested other than replacing the barrels, the City paint a right turn lane
in advance of this intersection.
Councilmember Brown and Harstad each stated with the above action, the Council would be
delaying action for the long-term solution.
Councilmember Johnson stated the 25 on -street parking stalls are temporary, and she is very
confident that staff will continue to review alternatives.
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Councilmember Black stated according to her recollection, the Council didn't pursue additional
streetscaping on Plymouth Boulevard due to the high costs. Therefore, the Council needs to
readdress that issue.
There being no further discussion and with all members voting against the motion but Bildsoe
and Tierney, the motion failed.
Motion was made by Councilmember Harstad, seconded by Councilmember Johnson to
discontinue the 25 on -street parking spaces in front of LifeTime Fitness. Parks and Recreation
Director Blank commented LifeTime Fitness would probably be disappointed by this decision as
it would make it difficult to accommodate larger events.
Councilmember Johnson stated the City needs to work with LifeTime Fitness and the Ice Arena
to utilize City Hall's parking lot, and the parking lot behind the Ice Arena.
Councilmember Harstad suggested that employees utilize the shuttle.
There being no further discussion and with Black, Bildsoe, Slavik, and Tierney voting no, and
Brown, Harstad, and Johnson voting yes, the motion failed.
Mayor stated due to both motions failing, this situation would remain as it currently is, and she
requested that a discussion of City Center Streetscape improvements be placed on a future
Council Work Session.
9.1) Request to Amend the Structure of the Plymouth Advisory Committee on Transit to a
City Council advisory commission (requested by Councilmember Harstad)
Manager Johnson reported Councilmember Harstad has requested that the Plymouth Advisory
Committee on Transit (PACT) be established as a formal City Council Committee rather than a
user committee as it currently is. He stated this could be acceptable with staff if approved by the
Council, but he recommended the committee continue to be comprised of users. If directed by
the Council, staff would draft a resolution to implement this suggestion.
Motion made by Councilmember Black, seconded by Councilmember Bildsoe to direct
preparation of a resolution implementing this item. With all members voting in favor, the
motion carried.
9.3) Councilmember Black stated she recently attended a transit meeting of the Metropolitan
Council. In relation to cities submitting their Comprehensive Plans, the Council had previously
heard that the Metropolitan Council discussed whether they would withhold funds for road
projects from those cities that didn't submit their Comprehensive Plans before the end of the
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year. The committee has since stated that this would be very difficult to justify this type of
action.
Councilmember Johnson stated she is opposed to this type of incentive. She stated the drafting
of the City's Comprehensive Plan involves a considerable amount of time, and the City is
striving to encourage the public to be involved in this process.
9.4) Councilmember Harstad reported on a worksheet the Council received from the
Association of Metropolitan Municipalities. He stated this should be completed no later than
November 17, 1999 as the policy adoption meeting will be conducted on that date from 5:00
p.m. -7:00 p.m. at the League of Minnesota Cities building.
Mayor Tierney suggested that Councilmembers forward their comments to Assistant Manager
Ahrens who could then compile a response based on the input received.
9.5) Mayor Tierney reported on the correspondence the Council received from Wayzata Public
Schools requesting the Council to reconsider the Dial -a -Ride ridership policy. She explained
four-year old children from at -risk families participate in the Learning Readiness Program, and
they utilize this bus service. The Council adopted the policy at the October 19, 1999 Council
meeting which stated children under the age of 10 must be accompanied by a responsible party at
least 13 years of age. The minimum age shall not apply to students enrolled and being
transported to/from a public/private school to attend kindergarten through 6`" grade. She stated
they are requesting the Council to readdress this issue.
Councilmember Johnson stated she was very supportive of the policy which the Council adopted
at the previous meeting. She stated she understands the need they are raising, however, she still
has a concern on the young age of the children who are unattended. She stated perhaps there
could be a parental consent form.
Councilmember Harstad requested this concern be referred to the Plymouth Advisory Committee
on Transit (PACT). Mayor Tierney stated that might not be an option as the Council has to
select members for PACT which could take several months.
Councilmember Harstad asked why this issue wasn't raised at the hearing, and he also reiterated
that the new policy went into effect November 1, 1999. He stated he is concerned about making
an exception for this one instance.
Councilmember Black stated four and five year olds are really young, and she doesn't even know
if a parental consent form would be a solution. She questioned why the Wayzata School District
isn't providing the busing rather than the City.
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The Council took no action on this request, but Councilmember Johnson suggested the City
could assist the school in locating funding for this special type of transportation.
9.6) Councilmember Brown requested the update on School District No. 281 facilities
organization be placed on the November 16, 1999 Council agenda.
Adjournment
Motion was made by Councilmember Black, and seconded by Councilmember Slavik to adjourn
the meeting at 11:20 p.m. With all members voting in favor, the motion carried.
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