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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
COUNCIL INFO MEMO
rib October 12, 2007
UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS
Youth Advisory Council Agenda for October 15 ........................................................ Page 3
Planning Commission Agenda for October 17 ........................................................... Page 4
Housing and Redevelopment Authority Agenda for October 18 ................................ Page 5
Hennepin County Adult Corrections Facility Open House October 24 ...................... Page 6
October, November, and December 2007 Official City Meeting Calendars .............. Page 7
Tentative Schedule for City Council Agenda Items .................................................. Page 13
MEETING MINUTES
Environmental Quality Committee Meeting Minutes of September 19 ................... Page 14
Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of September 19 ....................................... Page 19
Park and Rec Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes of September 20 ................ Page 26
STAFF REPORTS
Active and Pending Public Improvement Projects (Engineering) ............................Page 42
Pending Planning Applications (Community Development)....................................Page 46
CORRESPONDENCE
Letter from Hennepin County regarding new residential site for Aging and
Disability Services clients......................................................................................... Page 49
Letter of Resignation from the Human Rights Commission from Judith Labeck ... Page 50
Letter from Hennepin County Adult Correctional Facility on monthly population. Page 51
Invitation to Mayor or city representative to attend planning conference for
Minnesota's 150"' anniversary of statehood..............................................................Page 52
YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL
October 15, 2007
6:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
Time Allotment
1.
Call to Order
6:30 PM
2.
Approvals:
u) Agenda
6:30 — 6:35 PM
b) September 24 meeting minutes
3.
Presentation on Park Programming
6:35 - 6:45 PM
4.
Discussion Items:
a) Work Plan
6:45 PM
❖ Human Rights Youth Event
•'• Intergenerational Event
❖ Youth Service Awards
❖ Youth Leadership Conference
b) Set Future Meetings
5.
Adjournment
7:30 PM
6.
Additional Materials:
a) October, November, December 2007
and January 2008 Official City
Meeting Calendars
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PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2007
WHERE: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Plymouth City Hall
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
CONSENT AGENDA
All items listed on the consent agenda* are considered to be routine by the Planning Commission
and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a
Commissioner, citizen or petitioner so requests, in which event the item will be removed from
the consent agenda and considered in normal sequence on the agenda.
1. CALL TO ORDER- 7:00 P.M.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. PUBLIC FORUM
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
5. CONSENT AGENDA*
A. Approve the October 3, 2007 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes.
6. PUBLIC HEARING
A. City of Plymouth. 2008-2012 Capital Improvements Program. (2007094)
B. City of Plymouth. Amendments to the zoning text and map for Plymouth City Center.
(2007090)
7. NEW BUSINESS
A. City of Plymouth. Comprehensive Plan Update — City Center Land Use Plan.
(2005050)
B. City of Plymouth. Cancel the November 21, 2007 Planning Commission Meeting.
8. ADJOURNMENT
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AGENDA MEETING
PLYMOUTH HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 18, 2007 - 7:00 p.m.
WHERE: Medicine Lake Room
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
CONSENT AGENDA
All items listed with an asterisk (*) are considered to be routine by the Housing and
Redevelopment Authority and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate
discussion of these items unless a Commissioner, citizen or petitioner so requests, in
which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in normal
sequence on the agenda.
1. CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 P.M.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Approve HRA Meeting Minutes from September 20, 2007.
B. Plymouth Towne Square. Accept Monthly Housing Reports.
C. Vicksburg Crossing. Accept Monthly Housing Reports.
3. NEW BUSINESS
A. Vicksburg Crossing. 2008 Operating Budget.
B. Plymouth Towne Square. 2008 Operating Budget.
4. ADJOURNMENT
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ACF OPEN HOUSE 200 7
The Adult Corrections Facility (ACF) cordially invites you, our family, friends and
neighbors, to attend an "Open House" at the Men's Section/Main Building.
WHAT: The Open House is an interactive experience. Activities include a
facility tour, demonstrations, photos in the cellblock and a light
supper. Due to security needs, all residents will be LOCKED
DOWN during this time.
WHEN: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 from 6:00 P.M. to 9:00 P.M.
WHERE: ACF Men's Section
1145 Shenandoah Lane
Plymouth, MN 55447
Reservations are required. Children under the age of 18 are only permitted
when accompanied by a parent. Please secure all purses, cameras, cell
phones, contraband, etc. in your vehicle (or leave them at home) before
entering the facility. No recording devices are allowed in. Please park in the
south staff parking lot. Everyone should enter through the main entrance of the
Men's Section. (Adults) Please bring photo ID to speed the entry process.
Please call Dianne at 612-596-0065 or Booking at 612-596-0005 by Monday,
October 22, 2007 to place your reservation. Thank you.
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Tentative Schedule for
City Council Agenda Items
October 23, Special, 5:30 p.m., Medicine Lake Room
• Discuss Comprehensive Plan
October 23, Regular, 7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
• Assessment hearings for Black Oaks, Hawthorne Ponds, and City View street
reconstruction projects
Assessment hearing for Vicksburg Lane mill and overlay project.
• Hearing on On -Sale Liquor and Sunday Liquor License applications from Kobe
Operating, LLC d/b/a Kobe Japanese Restaurant, 15555 34`x' Avenue
• Presentation by Senator Ann Rest, Sesquicentennial Commission, "Catch the City
Spirit Campaign"
November 13, Special, 5:30 p.m., Medicine Lake Room
• Discuss water and sewer elements of the Comprehensive Plan
November 13, Regular, 7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
• Surface Water, Parks, Transportation, and Transit Elements of the Comprehensive
Plan. City of Plymouth. (2005050)
• Adopt City Center Zoning Ordinance amendments and remove Interim Ordinance
November 27, Special, 6:00 p.m., Medicine Lake Room
• City Manager Annual Performance Review
November 27, Regular, 7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
• Approve caterer contract for Plymouth Creek Center
December 3, Truth in Taxation Hearing, 7:00 p.m. Council Chambers
December 10, Continued Truth in Taxation Hearing (f necessary), 7:00 p.m. Council Chambers
December 11, Regular, 7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
• Approve Comprehensive Plan. City of Plymouth. (2005050)
• Adopt 2008 Budget, Levy, and CIP
January 15, Special, 6:30 p.m., Medicine Lake Room
• Board and Commission interviews
Note: Special Meeting topics have been set 1, ( 13) all other topics are tentative.
City of Plymouth
Environmental Quality Committee (EQC)
September 19, 2007
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Kathy Osborne, Commissioners Carlos Gutierrez, Tawnia
Johnson, David Pellinger, Terrie Christian, Peggy Willenberg and Sally Strand
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Water Resources Manager Derek Asche, Solid Waste Coordinator Kris
Hageman, Office Support Representative Patty Hillstrom
OTHERS PRESENT: Councilmember Ginny Black
GUEST SPEAKERS: Paul Kroening, Hennepin County Dept. of Environmental Services; Jim
Wollsehlager, Randy's Sanitation; Lin Vee, City Clerk, City of Orono; Lili McMillan,
Councilmemer, City of Orono
1. CALL TO ORDER — 6:05 P.M.
2. PUBLIC FORUM
3. PRESENTATIONS AND PUBLIC INFORMATION ANNOUNCEMENTS
(3.01) Public Information Meeting —Draft Non -Degradation Report
There were no attendees from the public at the public information meeting.
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda for the September 19, 2007, EQC meeting was approved as written.
5. CONSENT AGENDA
(5.01) APPROVAL OF JUNE 13, 2007, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Strand, seconded by Commissioner Pellinger, recommending
approval of the June 13, 2007, Envirorunental Quality Committee meeting minutes. Vote. 7
Ayes. MOTION approved.
6. PUBLIC HEARING
There was no public hearing at the meeting.
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September 19, 2007
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7. GENERAL BUSINESS
(7.1) COMMERCIAL SECTION RECYCLING STATUS REPORT AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCREASED ABATEMENT
A special EQC meeting was scheduled on October 24, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. for an in-depth
discussion of opportunities for increased abatement in the commercial sector.
Councilmember Black suggested bringing in Jean Buckley to share information on recycling
efforts in the commercial sector in the City of Bloomington. She also suggested obtaining
information from the MPCA about a presentation they are making on resource conservation
because she felt that there may be a recommendation for statewide business/commercial
recycling.
(7.2) MULTI -FAMILY DWELLING RECYCLING STATUS REPORT AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCREASED ABATEMENT
A special EQC meeting was scheduled on October 24, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. for an in-depth
discussion of opportunities for increased abatement in multi -family dwellings.
For the special EQC meeting, Chair Osborne asked Solid Waste Coordinator Hageman to draft a
recommendation for the EQC to review and provide comments.
Solid Waste Coordinator Hageman referred to the handout and noted the Hennepin County
Environmental Quality Report that is available online.
(7.3) ORGANICS COLLECTION AND OPPORTUNITIES
Solid Waste Coordinator Hageman reported that Hennepin County has been a leader in the Metro
Area supporting organics programs both in the residential and commercial sector. She said many
communities and public entities have taken advantage of grant programs available and she asked
Paul Kroening of Hennepin County to share information about what is being done.
Mr. Kroening introduced himself stating that he manages the waste reduction recycling programs
for Hennepin County within the Solid Waste Division. He explained that organic materials are
the biodegradable compostable portion of the waste stream. After everything is removed for
recycling, he said there is still a lot of material left in the waste stream that is compostable such
as food waste, paper towels, pizza cartons and anything that is biodegradable or carbon based.
Mr. Kroening stated that Hennepin County has started talking about composting the last four or
five years because a plateau has been reached with recycling. He said there has not been much
of an increase in residential or commercial recycling in six or seven years.
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Mr. Kroening said the organics portion of the waste stream is currently either going to a landfill
or a waste energy facility. He explained that organic material is undesirable at waste energy
facilities because it is not very combustible and is not wanted in the landfill because it generates
methane and greenhouse gases. He believes composting is the best way to manage organic
materials and added that these materials collected for composting can be included in the 50%
recycling goal set in the MPCA Strategic Plan.
Mr. Kroening reviewed Hennepin County's efforts in the community to encourage the separation
of organic materials from the waste stream in schools, businesses, restaurants and hotels in the
County. He said the City of Wayzata was the first community to start collecting organics
curbside four years ago and the City of Minnetonka and Orono started programs this spring.
Lili McMillan introduced herself stating that she is on the Orono City council. She stated that
two years ago she received a call from a citizen who wished to have an organics collection
program in Orono. Ms. McMillan spoke about the implementation of Orono's program and
noted that the two biggest challenges were making citizens aware of the availability and benefits
of the service and for residents to change to the hauler that provides the organics pick up.
Lin Vee, Orono City Clerk, provided the EQC with marketing materials that are used with the
organics program in Orono. She added that other promotional pieces include website
information, representation at Orono's Spring Clean-up Day, Hennepin County press release,
mailing from Randy's Sanitation, cable announcement and card hangers on bins.
Jim Wollschlager, Randy's Sanitation, stated that there is an end market for compost. He
explained that Hennepin County uses tons of dirt every year for road remediation projects and
that composted soil applied to the side of the road after a road project will hold 10 times its
weight in water.
Mr. Wollschlager stressed that organics collection is a big win for everybody and Randy's
Sanitation is excited about being a part of a program if implemented in Plymouth.
Councilmember Black pointed out that when the recycling program first started participation was
very low and she warned everyone not to be discouraged if the same thing happened with an
organics collection program.
Commissioner Strand asked why the City of Orono chose not to accept diapers in their organic
collection program. Councilmember Black replied that it is dependent on how the compost
facility operates. Mr. Kroening added that facilities have to meet PFRP standards that require
that the compost heat up to 138 degrees to kill pathogens and weed seeds.
Commissioner Christian asked if the compost produced from a successful organics program
could be returned to the City and used for development projects. Councilmember Black replied
no. She said that it is a business for the haulers and that they need to cover the cost of
transporting the materials and make a profit.
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Water Resources Manager Asche asked what is the greatest challenge to a City starting up an
organics program and where should the City focus its resources. Mr. Kroening replied that the
biggest issue is cost. He said there are incentives that include a waiver of taxes for organics by
the State and County and a County program called the Public Entity Waste and Abatement
Incentive Grant Program with $200,000 available annually to any public entity in Hennepin
County that wants to do innovative waste managing projects.
Commissioner Strand asked if any studies have been done on what age group is more attune to
participating in an organics program. Mr. Kroening replied that the County has not done any
studies for organics but surveys of recycling behaviors indicate that nationally the worst
participators are between the age of 18 and 35. He felt that the best recyclers and composters
would be the 45 and older age groups. Solid Waste Coordinator Hageman added that the people
that will participate in the compost program will be the good recyclers and then possibly anyone
who sees a potential to reduce their garbage bill.
Solid Waste Coordinator Hageman felt that there still seems to be some question about which
recycling system would be best for Plymouth and how to include organics into that system. She
said Plymouth has the opportunity to participate in organics the same way as other communities
utilizing grant money and the solid waste fund to offset the cost of starting up a program.
Commissioner Christian would like the value of the stream considered when making decisions
about the recycling program. She would like the waste stream to be looked at as a resource and
that a hauler should be chosen that would keep the materials as clean as possible so they are as
usable as possible.
MOTION by Chair Osborne, seconded by Commissioner Gutierrez, recormnending that staff
begin the grant process enabling the City to offer an organics collection service to interested
residents and also considering an organics program as an option during the RFP process for the
next recycling service contract. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION approved.
(7.3a) ST. PAUL REVENUE SHARING
There was no discussion of this item.
(7.4) WATER USE PERMITS
Water Resources Manager Asche reported that when water is pumped out of the lake for lawn
irrigation purposes it is regulated by the Dept. of Natural Resources. He added that residents are
allowed to pump 10,000 gallons per day and up a million gallons per year.
Water Resources Manager Asche will contact Jens Ahrens the City's water meter reader and
obtain information on water usage for irrigation.
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S. REPORTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS
(8.1) RECEIVE DRAFT NON -DEGRADATION REPORT
MOTION by Commissioner Strand, seconded by Commissioner Christian, receiving the draft
Non -Degradation Report. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION approved.
9. ADJOURNMENT
With no objection, the meeting adjourned at 9:16 p.m.
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Approved Minutes
City of Plymouth
Planning Commission Meeting
September 19, 2007
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chair Karl Neset, Commissioners Frank Weir, Terry
Jaffoni, James Davis, and John Cooney
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chair James Holmes and Commissioner Erik Aamoth
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Manager Barbara Senness, Senior Planner Shawn Drill,
Senior Planner Marie Darling, Planner Joshua Doty, City Engineer Bob Moberg and Office
Support Representative Janice Bergstrom
1. CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 P.M.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. PUBLIC FORUM
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Vice Chair Neset said the City received a request from the applicant to withdraw Item 5.C.
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Commissioner Jaffoni, to approve the
amended September 19, 2007 Planning Commission Agenda. Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION
approved.
5. CONSENT AGENDA
A. APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 5, 2007 PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Commissioner Davis, to approve the
September 5, 2007 Plamiing Commission Minutes. Vote. 4 Ayes. MOTION approved.
Commissioner Weir abstained.
B. STEELE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, INC. (2007079)
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Commissioner Davis, to approve the
request by Steele Construction Services, Inc. for a variance to a rear yard setback to allow
construction of a garage addition for property located at 5 300 Norwood Lane N.
Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION approved.
C. PAQUETTE CONSTRUCTION CO. (2007083)
Withdrawn.
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September 19, 2007
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6. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. LCS DEVELOPMENT (2007066)
Vice Chair Neset introduced the request by LCS Development for a rezoning, PUD general
plan and preliminary plat for "Trillium Woods", a continuing care retirement community
on property located at the southeast corner of Co. Rd. 47 and Juneau Lane N.
Senior Planner Darling gave an overview of the September 11, 2007 staff report.
Commissioner. Weir asked why the proposed 60 -foot right-of-way for local streets, which
exceeded the requirement of 50 feet, was not acceptable.
Senior Planner Darling said the 60 -foot right-of-way was too much in this case and staff is
requesting that the applicant reduce the right-of-way to 50 feet.
Vice Chair Neset introduced Steve Nornes, Project Developer for Trillium Woods. Mr.
Nornes said this project is a good fit for the City of Plymouth, offering a senior option for
people who live here and for parents of working people in the City. He said LCS is an
excellent employer and would offer employment for high school students giving thein an
opportunity to work with elderly. Mr. Nornes said extensive marketing and education has
been done about life care and this location has shopping nearby, is close to downtown, has
desirable hiking/biking trails with the greenway and corridor system connection at the
property, a nearby golf course and a hospital being built soon in Maple Grove. Mr. Nornes
displayed a TV ad that is running and reviewed marketing efforts which have resulted in
feedback and 110+ people signed on a priority wait lista Mr. Nornes reviewed the history
LCS and said they have over 80 sites in the U.S. He said they only develop properties they
manage. Mr. Nornes said they have worked on this site since 2005 and anticipate opening
January, 2011. He said the focus is on the residents through the whole process of
continuum care. Mr. Nornes said there is a one -tune joiner's fee and then the monthly
service fee of $2,500 per month that also covers skilled care. He said it is a long term care
insurance program and peace of mind and security is what they are selling.
Mr. Nornes introduced Mike Miller, Rice Fergus Miller Architects, who reviewed the
graphics for the site. He displayed views looking out from the proposed buildings. Mr.
Miller also showed sunlight views for different times of the year to show they have taken
advantage of daylight in laying out the proposed buildings.
Jason McCarty, Civil Engineer representing Trillium Woods, said they are proud of the
preservation of the forested area on the site. He reviewed the layout of the site, pointing
out that there is one below grade crossing below Cheshire Lane for pedestrians and
bicyclists. Mr. McCarty said the proposed traffic signal at Cheshire Lane and Co. Rd. 47
would be constructed during the first phase. He said the Trillium Woods proposal would
reduce proposed traffic by 45% from what a typical LA -2 development with 242
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townhomes would be on this site. Mr. McCarty said one issue in the EAW was grading
and erosion control. He said they will have an MPCA erosion control permit and storm
water pollution prevention plan. The silt fence will be installed when grading begins and
the ponds would be constructed first. He said ponds provide a construction work buffer to
protect the wetlands. Mr. McCarty said they have other erosion control practices, and pride
themselves on using the best application for each situation. Mr. McCarty said they will
keep construction and residential traffic separate. Cheshire Parkway and 59th will be built
and used for construction traffic and Juneau Lane will be used for vehicle traffic. He said
they would have to close the northerly portion of Cheshire as they can't have Juneau Lane
and Cheshire open at same time.
Mr. Miller reviewed traffic flows and access points for Phase I and Phase II of the
development. He displayed architectural drawings with modern interpretations of prairie
style architecture, made famous by Frank Lloyd Wright. Mr. Miller pointed out this style
uses massive fireplaces and large overhangs for the buildings. Mr. Miller showed
computer renderings of various views from Juneau Lane and Cheshire Parkway. He
reviewed various landscaping and other visual blockage of the service area. Mr. Miller
showed a fly -through which clearly showed the large amount of green space being retained
on the site.
Commissioner Jaffoni asked how many total units are in the proposal. She asked when the
assisted living units would be built.
Mr. Nornes said there would be 322 independent living units and 81 health care units. He
said the assisted living units would be added in the second building phase. Mr. Nornes
said as the first phase is being occupied, marketing would start for the second phase. Mr.
Nornes said dependent on pre -marketing and a 15 -month construction period, he
anticipated a full build -out by 2015-2016.
Commissioner Jaffoni noted that there was some encroachment in the wetlands and an
absence of buffers around new wetlands. She said there would be a requirement that those
would be rectified and asked if they are comfortable accommodating the requirements.
Mr. McCarty stated they are confident the wetland buffering can be accommodated and it
will be taken care of.
Vice Chair Neset opened and closed the public hearing as there was no one present to
speak on the item.
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Commissioner Davis, to approve the
request by LCS Development for a rezoning, PUD general plan and preliminary plat for
"Trillium Woods", a continuing care retirement community on property located at the
southeast corner of Co. Rd. 47 and Juneau Lane N. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION
approved unanimously.
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B. SCHUETT REAL ESTATE GROUP, LLC. (2007070)
Vice Chair Neset introduced the request by request by Schuett R/E Group, LLC. for a
rezoning from FRD to RSF-2 and preliminary plat for 10 single family lots to be called
"Hidden Acres Addition" for properties located at 4225 and 4245 Dunkirk Lane North.
Planner Doty gave an overview of the September 11, 2007 staff report.
Commissioner Davis asked if there are issues of Plymouth Creek flooding and encroaching
on the proposed homes.
Planner Doty said Plymouth Creek is covered by flood plain as established on FEMA
maps. He said the proposed plan is designed so the lowest floor of each of the homes
would be 2 feet above flood plain elevation so homes would not be flooded.
Commissioner Davis asked when the 45 trees would have to be replaced.
Planner Doty said trees typically would be planted after the property is graded. He said
that financial guarantees would be submitted to ensure that the trees do get planted.
Vice Chair Neset introduced the applicant, Tom Schuett, 16220 44t" Avenue N. Mr.
Schuett said the proposal is congruent with the adjacent neighborhood and a nice addition.
He said they have met all the City's requirements and he is excited about this project.
Commissioner Jaffoni said the houses in the diagram looked to be a similar size and asked
about the size of the proposed homes.
Mr. Schuett explained that the diagram indicates a footprint for the house pad sites. He
said the homes have not yet been designed, but anticipates the homes to be in the $650,000
to $800,000 range.
Vice Chair Neset introduced Vladimir Sivriver, Engineer for Schuett R/E Group. Mr.
Sivriver said it is their intent to comply with the requirements of the City, consistent with
the City's comprehensive plan. He said they are not requesting any variances with this
proposal and thanked the planning and engineering departments for their assistance and
support for this proposal.
Vice Chair Neset opened the public hearing.
Vice Chair Neset introduced Matt Blair, 16725 43'd Avenue N. Mr. Blair said he lives on
the north side of the proposed project and is concerned about tree removal at his property
line. Mr. Blair recommended that the new trees should be replaced on the property border
line. Mr. Blair said there is a drainage line on his yard and wants to make sure the City can
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access that. Mr. Blair pointed out that most of pond indicated on the map is on the side of
his property. Mr. Blair asked for an explanation of the rain garden and said he had
drainage problems when his house was built.
Vice Chair Neset closed the public hearing.
Planner Doty explained that a rain garden is a shallow depression filled with native
plantings which are deep rooted, allowing for greater infiltration of rain water. He said the
City would require an access easement to the storm water pond and rain garden.
City Engineer Moberg reviewed the access points and easements for the sanitary sewer.
City Engineer Moberg added that in the case of a rain event where the rain garden reached
capacity, overflow would go to the wetland complex immediately to the east and north.
Commissioner Davis noted that many trees on Mr. Blair's side of the proposal were
scheduled to be removed and asked what could be done in terms of replacing trees in that
area. He suggested tree replacement on the north side of the property near residences as the
south side has the park and trail.
Planning Manager Senness said a condition could be added to focus tree restoration on the
northern property line.
City Engineer Moberg clarified that Lots 1 and 2 would have some limitations due to the
rain garden. He said tree restoration would have to be toward the west.
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Commissioner Davis, to approve the
request by Schuett R/E Group, LLC. for a rezoning from FRD to RSF-2 and preliminary
plat for 10 single family lots to be called "Hidden Acres Addition", with an additional
condition to focus tree restoration on the northern property line for properties located at
4225 and 4245 Dunkirk Lane North. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION approved.
7. NEW BUSINESS
A. QUEST DEVELOPMENT, INC. (2007074)
Vice Chair Neset introduced the request by Quest Development, Inc. for a site plan and
variances for an office building for property located at 10600 Old County Road 15.
Senior Planner Drill gave an overview of the September 11, 2007 staff report.
Vice Chair Neset introduced Jim Waters, Quest Development. Mr. Waters said this site is
a key parcel along the Highway 55 corridor, which is currently underutilized. Mr. Waters
said the comprehensive plan encourages redevelopment of underutilized properties. He
said it was difficult to find a project that would work on this site and they initially had a
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larger building in order to handle costs associated with the demolition of the existing
building and preparation of the new building site. Mr. Waters said he does have medical
tenants who are interested in the proposed building which ultimately will be an asset to the
City. Mr. Waters said much of the Highway 55 corridor is commercial and to compete
effectively with retail and quasi -retail uses, he reiterated the need for more signage facing
Highway 55. Mr. Waters said the sidewalk is a fine idea but feels it is redundant to a trail
on the south side of the street. He said he would prefer to complete the sidewalk when
other businesses do theirs and be assessed at that time.
Commissioner Jaffoni asked if the traffic flow for the medical business had been reviewed.
Mr. Waters said a traffic study was not done. He said there are medical uses in the
building to the west and traffic has not been a problem. He said TwinWest is a tenant and
generates a fair number of vehicles. Mr. Waters said he did not think there would be a
substantial change for this use.
Planning Manager Senness added that a traffic study was not done because a medical use is
an allowed use this area and the traffic generated would be consistent with what has been
planned for.
Vice Chair Neset introduced Katie Fruth, 424 Union Terrace Lane N. Ms. Fruth said she is
not worried about traffic but is worried about parking because she has not observed open
spaces at the 12 spaces to be borrowed from the office site to the west. She said a side
entrance or signage would encourage parking in these spaces. Ms. Fruth said she was not
concerned about signage on Highway 55, but did not want lit signage on the south side of
the building. She said the building to the west dims their parking lot lights after office
hours. Ms. Fruth said she would like to see the planting of the 26 trees on the south side of
the building. Ms. Fruth questioned the building height increase up to 23 feet as she felt a
large building looming over her property might be a deterrent to a fixture buyer for her
home.
Vice Chair Neset introduced Paul Meyer, 15050 36°' Avenue N. Mr. Meyer said lie is the
architect of the project and showed an aerial view of Ms. Fruth's house relative to the
proposal. He indicated the location of the 26 trees and said this is a significant number for
this size parcel. Mr. Meyer discussed the screening and rain garden feature. He said the
entrance to the site is across from Union Terrace and the parking has been deliberately
clustered in two parking lots. Mr. Meyer said a parking analysis was done for the building
to the west, and with the underground parking, it meets ordinance requirements. Mr.
Meyer said the 12 parking spaces would be signed for the new building. Mr. Meyer said
the City's lighting ordinance is very clear. He said while it is challenging and restrictive
compared to other communities, their submittal is compliant and the lighting would be
reduced to 50% by midnight. Mr. Meyer said the ordinance allows for a 35 -foot tall
building. He said the proposed 23 -foot tall building is appropriate to the adjacent 4 -story
building and the taller ceiling height is typical. Mr. Meyer said the signage on the south
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side will be illuminated. Mr. Meyer reiterated that in looking at the Highway 55 corridor,
others are allowed 10% wall signage and they are requesting the equivalent on the Highway
55 exposure.
Commissioner Davis asked about the parking lot connection to the site to the west.
Mr. Meyer said the parking lot connects on the north side. He said by shifting the building
north, there is access on the south side which is also the fire department access.
Senior Planner Drill added that the building height of 23 feet includes a parapet which
conceals mechanical equipment. He noted the current building is 18 feet in height and has
no rooftop equipment.
City Engineer Moberg said staff would be willing to have a condition to assess the property
in the fixture for the sidewalk, rather than constructing a piece of sidewalk that doesn't go
anywhere.
Commissioner Davis asked about the location of the sidewalk and the distance to the
transit station.
Senior Planner Drill said it would be located between the curb cut and the west lot line,
eventually connecting to the transit station.
Commissioner Davis asked why the sidewalk is required at this point.
Planning Manager Senness said it is an opportunity to get a sidewalk in the area of the
transit center. Senior Planner Drill added that since Highway 55 is a major collector
roadway it is beneficial to have sidewalks on both sides.
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Corrunissioner Davis, to approve the
request by Quest Development, Inc. for a site plan and variances for an office building with
an added condition to assess the owner for sidewalk installation at a later date, and denial
for the signage variance request for property located at 10600 Old County Road 15.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously.
8. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Vice Chair Neset, without objection, to adjourn the meeting at 8:59 p.m.
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September 20, 2007
PRESENT: Commissioners: Fiemann, Krahulec, Knight, Anderson, Smith, Singer, Vanderwall
Staff: Blank, Miller, Evans
City Council Liaison: Bildsoe
GUESTS: S.R.F. consultants: Barry Warner, Joni Wiese
ABSENT: Planning Commissioner: Weir
PACKET INCLUSIONS: Agenda, 8/16/07 Minutes, Comprehensive Sidewalk and Trail System
Memo with Graphics, Public Art Opportunities Memo, Comprehensive Plan -Golf Courses Memo,
2030 Comprehensive Plan Memo with Draft Plan, Ice Center Proposed Rate Increase Memo,
Memorial Request Memo
1. CALL TO ORDER
Meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. in the Council Chambers by Chairperson Fiemann.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chairperson Fiemann asked for any changes or amendments to the minutes. Commission Singer
requested that the Parliamentary verbiage moved rather than motioned is used in the minutes.
She also requested to check the spelling of aesthetically and correct as needed. Commissioner
Smith asked to have the word East changed to West on page 4. He also stated that he did not
make the statement regarding security issue and thought it was Commissioner Knight who made
that statement.
Chairperson Fiemann asked for a motion to approve the July minutes as amended.
Commissioner Singer moved to approve the minutes and Commissioner Smith seconded. All
were in favor and the motion carried.
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Association
No information was presented
b. Staff- Diane Evans
♦ Autumn Art Fair
■ This years event featured 25 artists down from 40 artists from previous fairs
■ The festivities were held at Parkers Lake
■ Plymouth Recreation Department sponsored a local face painter, free to children attending
■ Abrakkadoodle, a local educational art company, sponsored a mural project in addition to a
to the City's Recycling Program.
■ Five food vendors and five musical groups contributed to the festivities
■ Estimated attendance was 3,000
♦ Plymouth on Parade
■ Currently have close to 100 units
• Participants include business, non-profit organizations, area school and Politian's
■ Parade starts at 1:00 p.m. on September 29, 2007
• Pancake Breakfast runs from 8:00-11:00 a.m.
■ There will be activities offered after the parade in the Hilde area
■ Helicopter rides will be a new activity that will be offered by Hawkeye Helicopter Company
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• Notices are being sent to surrounding neighbors advising them of the activity
• The rides will run from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
• Take off and landing will occur from the area south of the Life Time Fitness Complex
back parking lot
• Rides will last from 5-10 minutes
• Pricing is $35 for adults, $30 for children under 12 and free to those under 2 as they
will sit on an adults lap
o All forms of payment are accepted
Commissioner Krahulec asked if a background check had been performed in regards to their
safety record. Evans stated a safety check had been performed. The company provided all
necessary licensures, and appropriate insurances. She also stated other communities that
used the service have been contacted and received only positive responses.
■ Current or previously served Armed Force personnel will be Plymouth on Parade Grand
Marshalls.
• They will ride in the tender car of a steam locomotive behind the lead VFW Color
Guard
♦ Star Tribune Newspaper Article
■ Robbinsdale School received a grant to promote and provide healthier lifestyles
■ One of the few Minnesota schools that received that grant
■ The focus will be fitness and wellness programs
■ The goal is getting children more active, therefore the school is purchasing treadmills and
other active forms of equipment
■ Wellness and healthier lifestyles are topics that Plymouth Recreation is moving towards
and will incorporate in more programs for all ages
♦ Fall Programs
■ Tumbleweeds Gymnastics has filled up and another class was added
■ Youth Sport Programs: After school soccer, lacrosse and football have been well received
Commissioner Singer inquired about the Women of the West Quilters Pieces of our Lives
exhibition and whether this is connected to the recreation department. Evans stated the group
is located in the community but is not a part of the Plymouth Recreation Programs.
4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
a. Approved New Neighborhood Park Name -Woodland Trails Park
Approved by City Council
Chairperson Fiemann asked Blank about the current land purchase for the Greenway. Blank
stated the City Council authorized the purchase of the 70.8 acre property for $2,610,000. The
property was negotiable due to the landowner's death and the estate going to bankruptcy court.
Closing on the property will occur no later than November 15, 2007.
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5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Comprehensive Plan presented by S.R.F. consultant Barry Warner and Joni Wiese
The final elements of the comprehensive plan were presented. Highlights discussed for each topic
are outlined below. (Please refer to specific memorandums/graphics for complete details). All topics
presented over the last four months will be assembled for the PRA October meeting as well as the
Oct 17Th Planning Commission hearing.
♦ TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS- Barry Warner
o Current Conditions
Warner walked the Commissioners through the current sidewalk and trail analysis map. He
informed the Commissioners that these map graphics are quite complex due to all the detail.
Outlined and identified were items such as:
Road crossings in need of improvement
On -Road Bike Routes
Existing City Trails
Existing Grade -Separated Crossings
■ The City provides sidewalks for pedestrians to use in the downtown Plymouth area to link
local commercial and employment areas
■ Downtown sidewalks connect to local trails in Plymouth Creek Park
■ Several locations exist along roadways, such as TH 101 and south of County Road 6
■ Sidewalks within residential areas are not maintained by the City and therefore are not
included
• Trail Plans Developed by Other Agencies
■ Bicycle routes developed by other agencies were reviewed to ensure that the City's plan
incorporated existing and proposed regional and county facilities and linked to proposed
trails in adjacent communities.
On Street Bike Lanes for Commuters
■ Commuters are higher skilled riders that prefer on -street bicycle facilities
■ Designations includes:
• Employment areas
• Commercial areas
• Transit stations
• Schools
• Playfields
• Regional/State trails systems
• Longer recreational rides
On February 22, 2006 a roundtable meeting was held for commuter bicyclists to gain
feedback for on -road facilities. Comments included but are limited to:
• Improve Vicksburg Lane, North of TH 55 with on -road facilities
• Educate motorists about bicycle laws
• Improve on -street facilities between County Road 6, TH 55 and Parkers Lake roads
• Install bicycle facilities in Plymouth City Center
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• Improve signage
Commissioner Singer asked Warner what the term bicycle facilities mean. Warner replied it refers to
provisions that accommodates off or on -street bike movement. Commuter bicyclists, who generally
have a higher skill level, prefer to ride on the roadway rather than on an off-road trail, due to the
speed at which they travel etc. Families generally prefer to be on bike trails. He continued to say that
bicycle sidewalk and trails will be addressed in two sections of the comprehensive plan; the park
section and the transportation section.
Major north/south and east/west roadways in the city were reviewed for possible on road
bike lanes. Considerations include but are not limited to:
• Continuity of the road through the community and adjacent communities
• Connections to regional and state trail networks
• Proximity to playfields and schools
• Connections to transit facilities
Off -Street Trails for Recreational Bikers
■ Less skilled and prefer riding in:
• Neighborhood parks
• Schools
• Regional/state trail systems
• Smaller looping trail systems for leisure rides
Analysis of Physical Conditions
• Review of existing trail network to determine gaps
• Determine if trail connections can be made to schools and proposed neighborhood
parks
• Review of barriers to non -motorized movements
• Existing railroad and roadway crossings should be improved
o Draft Plan
■ On -Street Bike Lanes for Commuters
• Identify north/south and east/west routes through the city for on -road bike facilities
V Vicksburg Lane and Schmidt Lake Road are identified as key on -street bike
lanes
00 Schmidt Lake Road provides a convenient east/west corridor across northern
Plymouth
Vicksburg Lane provides a continuous north/south connection across the
entire city
Off -Street Trails for Recreational Bicyclists
• Improve recreational bicycle trails by filling gaps in the local trail network
• The City has a policy of constructing trails along both sides of major roadways
V Physical Conditions
The City is working with Minnesota Department of Transportation to plan for
the reconstruction of TH55 with accommodations for pedestrians and bicyclist
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00 To increase safety for pedestrians and bicyclists, improvements should be
made at numerous intersections or roadway crossings. (See Sidewalk and
Trail memo for complete list)
Warner asked the Commissioners for questions. Commissioner Smith asked to what level of detail
they should be delving into the presentation to identify additions or changes. Blank requested the
Commissioners identify as much as they possibly can at this meeting in order to wrap the plan up at
the October meeting. Commissioner Smith continued to state that he would like to see an additional
proposed city trail go up to Medina Road and possibly to the wetlands. He also suggested that they
look at a future crossing improvement possibly around 32nd and Dunkirk or at the stop sign in that
proximity. Blank stated that he will make a note and submit that to the engineers who will make the
most logical design for trails and crossings when they implement the project.
Commissioner Anderson asked that the following on -road bike routes be considered as inclusions to
the Comprehensive Plan:
County Road 47
Fernbrook
Old Rockford Road
Niagara Lane
Medina Road
Nathan Lane from Schmidt Lake Road to Rockford Road
He also suggested the analysis map include on -road bike routes that have already been striped
and/or signed. Commissioner Anderson provided the Commission with a list of those roadways.
Commissioner Anderson continued to say at the August 28, 2007 City Council meeting, David
Montivello and John Hagan presented where they saw projected growth in traffic and where there
was room for roadway improvement. They suggested rebuilding County Road 47 similar to Schmidt
Lake Road, which has proven to be more effective for all forms transportation. Blank suggested
having a brief discussion on each proposed additional on -road bike route. He then questioned if
S.R.F. would take each route back for analysis. Warner replied there are going to be issues regarding
right of way width, along with significant financial considerations. He suggested that the supporting
text point out the issues and challenges that are inherent with some of the corridors. When each
roadway comes up for reconstruction or improvement, it may be a more appropriate time to consider
these additions. Warner continued to state there are many different options that can be considered
such as signage, actual lanes etc. Blank informed the commissioners when staff and S.R.F. were
looking at the various scenarios; they debated how many corridors they should have due to
expenses, difficulty in design, and the need to do some retrofitting with corridors such as with
Vicksburg. A consideration was to offer a major north/south and east/west corridor for those trips
where people want to go through Plymouth from Maple Grove to Minnetonka, Edina to New Hope,
etc. or for those that are coming into Plymouth to a place of work. With that said, the focus became
the Vicksburg corridor, the Schmidt Lake Road corridor, and County Road 24, which has a bikeway
that comes in from the west to TH101. Blank stated that it may be more advantageous to look at two
major north/south and east/west corridors. Commissioner Anderson stated the county roads are so
busy and therefore he would like to see more bicyclists on city roads. Chairperson Fiemann stated
he sees many bicyclists going west on three routes, County 6, 24 and Medina Road. He feels that
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bicycle lanes or signage needs to be considered on these roadways. He also questioned how they
might deal with bicyclist using TH 55 traveling east into the Minneapolis area. Warner replied that the
reason most bicyclist migrate to TH55 is the absence of alternative corridors and that TH 55
expedites their trip into downtown as it is the most direct path from Plymouth to Minneapolis. The
regional bike trail being considered that will run from French Park and eventually connect to Theodore
Worth will be another direct route to downtown, but he considers this more for the recreational user.
Chairperson Fiemann noted the bike paths are better in the residential areas and notices gaps in the
industrial areas. Warner stated that as shown on map, those gaps are identified as potential trails in
the future.
Commissioner Singer stated she feels that as a City we need to serve our commuters and have that
balance with the recreational bicyclist. She asked Commissioner Anderson if he feels the plan
outlines a balance of both. Commissioner Anderson stated he also is asking for both recreational and
commuter considerations for many safety reasons. Commissioner Singer stated the need to educate
the motorist and population to make them aware of the need to share the road. Commissioner
Anderson requested that Commissioners visit the website Completestreet.org, which outlines striking
a balance for both recreational and commuter bicyclists.
Commissioner Krahulec questioned the work being done along Northwest Blvd up to the crossing of
County Road 47 and wanted to know if the project goes north of there. Blank stated he believed it is a
signalized intersection that is a county improvement project.
Commissioner Anderson asked Warner if the Luce Line at County Road 61 will be installing a grade
separated crossing and if the map graphic shows only the improvements being made by the City as
he does not see these noted. He continued to state that Three Rivers has discussed the possibility of
making that a grade separated crossing. Warner replied that Three Rivers had initiated discussion of
at -grade crossings and safety measures however, it became apparent Three Rivers could not handle
this project individually and needed MNDOT and other county agencies to assist with the at -grade
crossing issues. MNDOT has taken over and will more than likely implement a project that
standardizes crossways at four lane roadways. This issue is further complicated by the current law
and some public confusion. The current law indicates that a pedestrian has the right-of-way over a
motorist; however a bicyclist does not unless they dismount and walk the bike across. Commissioner
Anderson questioned that accuracy of that statement. The accuracy of this will be investigated
however; Chairperson Fiemann stated it remains a safety issue and should be something that is
looked at as plans are constructed. Warner will note this.
Blank commented that if Commissioners have other specific questions, they need to let the S.R.F.
consultants and/or staff aware and they will come back with recommendations in October.
Commissioner Smith noted grammatical errors in the trail/sidewalk memo. Page 4 of 5 should read
Fernbrook not Ferndale. He also advised that Schmidt Lake Road runs east/west so the north/south
reference on page 3 of 5 should be eliminated.
With no further comments or questions, the remainder of the presentation was turned over to Joni
Giese.
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♦ PUBLIC ART- Joni Giese (Please refer to specific memorandums/graphics for complete details)
The City of Plymouth is in the process of enhancing public art within the community. Public art can be
defined as Visual art in a public place; art permanently installed in a public place. Publicly accessible
art that enriches the city as it evokes meaning in the public realm.
o Benefits of Public Art
• Provides unique opportunity to enrich the lives of City residents and visitors
■ Engages and promotes civic dialog
■ Strengthens community identity, creates distinctive places and promotes economic vitality
■ Promotes multi-cultural/multi-generational understanding
■ Commemorates and celebrates lives of civic leaders
■ Interprets historic, cultural, and environmental information
■ Provides recreational opportunities and visitor attraction
o Public Art
■ Opportunities can be categorized into four broad categories -(Review the graphic for visual
examples)
V Streetscapes are primary community public space allowing a large number of diverse
range of residents to experience art on a daily basis, such as:
■ Street lights
■ Banner Poles
■ Sidewalks
■ Fountains/Plazas
■ Median islands
■ Kiosks
■ Bicycle Racks
■ Signs
■ Tree guards, grates and pits
■ Benches
o Parks are primary community public places that draw in a large and diverse range of
community members and provide opportunity for creation and temporary display in
locations such as:
■ Open lawns for Sculptures or Memorials
■ Signs
■ Shade or Picnic Shelters
■ Overlooks
■ Benches
■ Drinking Fountains
■ Sidewalks
• Building and Building Sites which includes both private and public buildings. These
structures can host a variety of interior and exterior public art forms. Components can
include:
■ Building Facades
■ Entrance Drives
■ Atriums
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■ Windows
■ Wall Murals
• Hand Rails
V Infrastructures can be influenced by the design of public art. The art elements can help
interpret transportation, health and safety functions for residents. Infrastructure
elements that can be incorporated or host public art include:
■ Roadway Bridges
■ Pedestrian Bridges
■ Transit Shelters
■ Retaining Walls
■ Stormwater Ponds or Rain Garden
■ Roadway Pavement
Joni asked the Commissioners if they had questions or comments. None were provided
♦ RAILROAD CROSSINGS- Joni Giese (Please refer to specific memorandums/graphics for
complete details)
Conceptual plans were developed for at -grade trail crossings of railroad corridors at the following
locations:
Holly Lane Crossing
Woodland Trails Park Crossing
Three Ponds Park Crossing
All three locations have informal trail crossing. Several of the sites have multiple informal crossings in
relatively close proximity to each other. Improve formal pedestrian railroad crossings at these
locations by consolidating the existing informal crossings to one crossing location and then enhance
the safety of the consolidated crossing.
o Site Evaluation Criteria
■ An unobstructed view of/4 mile in each direction should be provided at the railroad crossing
■ Maintain existing drainage patterns adjacent to the railroad
■ Adjacent land uses were reviewed to determine appropriate locations and lengths of fencing
■ Locate crossings to make connections to existing or future trails and minimize site impacts.
o At -Grade Crossing Concepts
■ Concepts are based on the premise that the railroad corridor has been designated a quiet
zone
■ A pedestrian maze approach is utilized in all of the concepts to improve safety
■ The maze concept utilizes fencing to prohibit undesired crossings
■ The fence is configured to require bicyclists to slow down while approaching the railroad
■ The maze forces trail users to view the railroad, both up and down
■ Longer lengths in fencing can only be used along one side of the railroad to avoid trapping
pedestrians in the railroad corridor
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• Black, vinyl -coated chain link fencing is a cost effective style that minimizes the visual impact
of the fencing
■ Railroad companies typically allow crossings to be constructed from wood timbers, concrete or
rubber
• Concrete is proposed as it provides a mid -price, safe and comfortable surface for
pedestrians and bicyclist
■ Lighting is proposed at the crossing to increase visibility and safety
■ All concepts reflect fill material being brought in to provide level trail approaches to the
crossings
o Proposed Implementation Steps
The following is a scenario to get new pedestrian crossings approved and constructed by the railroad.
■ Introduce the City's desire and design concepts in a meeting with the Canadian Pacific Public
Crossing Manager
■ Discuss the existing conditions at the crossing sites and the City's desire to reduce the number
of informal crossing while improving safety
■ As part of the discussion and negotiations the City will likely be required to meet the following:
• Obtain easements from the Railroad for the crossings
• Indemnify the Railroad of any liability and provide proof of insurance for any future incidents
• Obtain a MNDot crossing order. ( Additional research is needed to determine if this is
applicable to pedestrian crossings)
■ Construction within the railroad right of way is performed by the Railroad and billed to the City
Giese asked for any questions or comments. Chairperson Fiemann questioned if mazes are common.
Giese replied they are based on the sites being considered quiet zones so as trains travel through the
city they do not have to blow their horns at every crossing. She informed the Commissioners that
Wayzata is designing and installing mazes at railroad crossings. Chairperson Fiemann questioned if
bikes with burlies can navigate through the maze. Giese replied yes, though they may have to
dismount, as would other type of bicyclists. Another concern Chairperson Fiemann brought attention
to was whether two groups of people could pass in the middle of the maze. Giese replied that one
group would have to give way reiterating the purpose of the maze is to slow pedestrians/bicyclists
down. Commissioner Krahulec voiced concern about burlies possibly being too large to maneuver
through the maze. Warner stated that he will re -investigate and advise at the next meeting. Blank
interjected the city established having these crossings a quiet zone priority and will enter negotiations
with the Railroad as such to avoid whistle blowing.
Commissioner Smith asked if there were any mazes in the Hennepin County area that they could
visit. Warner didn't believe so, but will check with S.R.F. engineers.
♦ GOLF
Blank advised the Commissioners that the topic of the City's involvement in golf courses need to be a
discussion item and is looking to get their philosophy as the language that will be used in the
Comprehensive plan, with the current focus particular to Hollydale Golf Course. Commissioners were
provided a memo along with pages of the 2000 Comprehensive plan that addresses golf courses.
Blank requested the following options be open for discussion.
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Continue with the majority of the language in the current document, indicating the City be
an active player in the pursuit of maintaining an 18- hole golf course for Plymouth; which
may include acquiring a golf operation
The City recognizes the economic difficulties in the purchase of an 18 -hole golf course; but
under certain circumstances may consider taking an active role in a golf operation
For economic reasons, future golf ventures within the City of Plymouth would be operated
by either a private industry or County Agency and the City would not get into the golf
business based on current information
It was also noted that Plymouth citizens are in attendance to discuss and give their feedback on the
topic.
Chairperson Fiemann opened discussion up to the Commissioners first. Commissioner Anderson
needed clarification regarding comparing two 9 -hole golf courses to one 18 -hole course as outlined
on page 2. Blank clarified there are two key components. The first being the actual golf course and
the other being open space. The two 9 -hole courses that have opened up exceed the acreage of
Hollydale in terms of open space and not in terms of the recreational golf experience.
Commissioner Smith voiced a concern that golf in Plymouth would be going down while the demand
is going up. Blank stated the golf statistics presented were secured in 2000 and were not re-
investigated for the current Comprehensive Plan. Per readings, he stated that overall nationwide golf
has slipped, whether that is true in Minnesota is unknown. Commissioner Fiemann wanted to know
what the ask was from the Commissioners. Blank stated the Commissioners need to provide a
recommendation to the City Council on the philosophy and approach to public golf and how involved
the City should be. Commissioner Singer stated she was not sure she wanted to see the City involved
in the golf business. She acknowledged the need for open space but was hopeful open space could
be found in the Greenway, Nature Canyon etc. Commissioner Knight asked what have been the
experiences in partnerships for managing other sports/sport complexes. Blank stated the partnership
between Lifetime Fitness and the Ice Center, as deemed by the City Council, has the Ice Center
responsible for the upkeep and maintenance of that complex. There are no tax dollars that support it.
The same applies to the fieldhouse which nets approximately $100,000 per year. These are two are
enterprise funds that the City Council dictated will support themselves. Commissioner Krahulec
clarified that key term is operations and not acquisitions. Blank concurred by saying all major capital
purchases probably will go to in front of the City's residents for referendums. Commissioner Smith
pointed out that the 2000 comprehensive plan had a 1999 survey (page 8.40) showing 79% thought
the City should take steps to secure at least one public golf course with 54% in favor of spending City
funds towards it. He felt those were decent numbers.
Commissioner Singer reiterated that she could be convinced to go the other direction if she saw
creative ideas and if a $25,000,000 price tag was not involved. Commissioner Smith asked Blank if
they might be able to acquire the property for less (with a referendum) and recoup dollars by charging
non-residents more than residents. Blank wanted to clarify when he wrote the estimated value of the
golf operation at $ 25,000,000, a resident called to remind him that the price could be lower for any
number of economic reasons and the City could take advantage of that. He also reminded the
Commissioner's, even if the golf course could be purchased for less it could still need to go before the
voters. Commissioner Anderson, in an attempt to find middle ground, brought up the possibility of
having the City responsible for 9 -holes and the partnership responsible for the other 9 -holes. Blank
agreed that are any number of possibilities. He also stated Three Rivers operates four or five courses
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and has the knowledge to run a golf course. The County may be a better contender than the City,
however, he does not know if the County has any interest. Commissioner Smith asked if numbers
could be obtained from Hollydale on how many golfers sign up for 9 -holes versus 18 -holes.
Commissioner Singer reminded the panel the question before them is answering the question is there
is a need to preserve golf? Chairperson Fiemann asked for other comments. As there were none, he
introduced Bob Burke, a Plymouth resident who came to express his ideas on preserving Hollydale.
Bob Burk, who resides at 4962 Comstock Lane North and whose townhome backs up to Hollydale
Golf Course had concerns with the Comprehensive Plan and the desire for the City to maintain an 18 -
hole golf course. He also wanted to share a case in which the Comprehensive Plan played an
important role in reserving golf property in the City of Eagen. For those not familiar, he stated that a
developer had wanted to rezone a golf course for residential development. It went to the Minnesota
Supreme Court and based on Eagen's Comprehensive Plan, Eagen was entitled to maintain and not
rezone their golf course for the developer. Mr. Burk shared this to let the Commissioner know how
important the contents and language needs to be stated in the Comprehensive Plan. He continued to
say he had the understanding the City Council had taken the position that they would not change the
PI zoning guidance for Hollydale Golf Course. Based on Blank's memo, Mr. Burk recognizes the
Commissioners duty is to recommend the City's involvement in the preservation of an 18 -hole golf
course in Plymouth. He noted the options that were given and feels that none of them have to be
adopted in their entirety. Language in the Comprehensive Plan could read that the City will be active
in maintaining an 18 -hole golf course and will look at the possibilities in doing so.
Mr. Burk, who is also the Vice President of the Association, let the Commissioners know that more
residents would have been in attendance to discuss this matter, however, they were only given a two
day notice. He advised the interest in maintaining Hollydale was ever present by the amount of
residents that showed up at the City Council meeting. Current homeowners specifically bought
property in that area based on the golf course. He also stated that he felt the $25,000,000 price tag
was an erroneous number. He sited the Eagen case; the Supreme Court stated the value of the
property has to be assessed as it is currently zoned and not valued as if the property was rezoned to
residential property. His investigation brought forth a value, based on Hennepin County land market
value where the dollars would be closer to $750,000 and the building around $160,000. Mr. Burk feels
that if it was sold as is, a golf course, the price would be substantially less to anyone who would want
to purchase it and it might be a consideration for the City. If Hollydale is allowed to be sold, The City
of Plymouth would be the largest city in the upper Midwest without an 18 -hole golf course. Mr. Burk
disputed that statement that golf as on a decline and feels it remains a very active sport. He is
advocating the Commissioners to consider options that will keep Hollydale open. He feels the City's
protection of Hollydale 18 -hole course is crucial and what will be written in the Comprehensive Plan
vital. Mr. Burk asked the Commissioners if they had any questions. As there were none, Chairperson
Fiemann thanked Mr. Burk for addressing the Commissioners.
Maureen Modrack, who resides at 4950 Comstock Lane N., approached the podium to reiterate that
Blank obtained the $25,000,000 price tag as if the property had been rezone as an R1 (residential).
This property needs to be assessed as it currently is zone which drops the price tremendously. She
also stated that many community members like the current way the plan addresses golf and they
have built their home and families around the Comprehensive Plan.
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Mark Kramer was the next resident to speak. He resides at 4715 Yuma Lane. He came to present the
case that the overall statistics show there are more golfers per capita in the state of Minnesota than
any other state largely due to publicly owned and operated golf courses. He does not want Plymouth
to be one of the biggest cities in the Midwest without an 18 -hole course. He said that if the City lets go
of Hollydale, it sets precedence for other golf course, such as Begin Oaks, to go as well, leaving only
Eagle Lake. He believes the City should be doing everything it can to maintain Hollydale Golf Course.
He believes there are many creative ways to utilize the course in the winter; such as partnering with
recreation to provide cross county skiing or other winter activities.
Commissioner Singer inquired if Eagle Lake was a 9 -hole or 18 -hole golf course. Blank replied it was
a 9 -hole with a chipping putt for children and a driving range.
Commissioner Krahulec interjected the direction from City Council is to determine golf's recreational
value and he is of the opinion that it would not be a tremendous loss to lose Hollydale as he believes
it is not a burden to get to other 18 -hole course, such as Shamrock. His feeling is he does not want
the City to be in the business of golf.
Chairperson Fiemann asked if there were any more comments. Commissioner Singer made an
inquiring statement referring to the Commissioners not having to make a decision at this time. Blank
interjected that a specific decision does not have to be made; however, they need to craft some
language to look at for the next meeting. Commissioner Singer proposed the language bulleted in the
2000 Comprehensive Plan on page 8.41 be drafted into the 2007 Comprehensive Plan. She also
proposed that staff look up the statistics in relationship to the growth of golf in Minnesota and the
upper Midwest. She suggested getting demographics of who play golf, both young and old, and have
those statistics available for the October meeting.
Chairperson Fiemann asked for a motion. Blank clarified the three bullet points items on page 8.41 of
the 2000 Comprehensive Plan is what will be drafted as the language for the 2007 plan.
Commissioner Singer moved the draft language read as clarified by Blank be incorporated into the
draft plan, with Smith seconding. Chairperson Fiemann asked to vote. All agreed and the motion
carried.
♦ DRAFT PARKS,TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AND APPENDICES —Diane Evans
Blank introduced this topic by giving full credit to Evans for rewriting this section. He then asked
Evans to present. Evans stated she will walk through the plan and get Commissioners comments
after each topic. She reiterated it is important to remember this is a document in progress. Since the
Commissioners received their copies, two updates have occurred since input from other members of
the Comprehensive Plan Committee was requested. The copy for next months meeting will reflect the
changes. She continued to say that Parks, Trails and Open Space is only one chapter of the overall
Comprehensive Plan. The goal of the City was to produce a plan that was user- friendly and easier to
read for the public. Therefore, the appendices become the larger document, which will be what
internal staff will use for their technical review.
o Appendices 7A
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Evans welcomed comments and suggestions as she bEagen to move through each section.
■ Parks
Commissioner Singer asked if page 7-9, tables 7-3 and 7-4 which lays out the needs for 2030, were
incorrect. Evans replied that table was only a placeholder, and has been updated. Commissioner
Singer then referenced page 7-17 where a line space needs to be entered in the Community Garden
section after the word land and before the word bicycle. In the Spray park section, Commissioner
Singer requested that an addition line read: This would be added to an existing facility or to a new
facility. Evans will incorporate.
Commissioner Krahulec asked if we had an archery range. Blank replied yes, however it is closed at
the moment. He continued to say there is a plan to rebuild and open the range next year. Evans
interjected that 95% of content is from the 2000 Comprehensive Plan with new items folded in.
Commissioner Singer wondered about the verbiage regarding Nature Canyon and the consideration
of athletic amenities. She was under the impression this area was an eco -system type park and was
wondering if these amenities would be of a passive nature. Blank responded by stating the top third
that is currently used as a land fill was bought to have as a future athletic field. The lower two thirds
would be used as the nature area. This was approved by the City Council.
With no future comments the presentation moved to Trails.
■ Trails
Diane advised the Commissioners page 7-29 was a place holder for the topic of golf. This will be
where their approved language from tonight's meeting will be interjected, Commissioner Anderson
referred to page 7-31 and asked if there was any difference between the graphic Boulevard Trails and
Roadside Trails and if they are used in the City. Blank explained that it gets into the width of the
boulevard with some roads having wider right -a -ways than others. Chairperson Fiemman asked how
will the S.R.F. presentation and discussion on bike trails will be included. Evans stated they tried to
include this information in service area table on page 7-21 in the Parks section. Page holders such as
7-35 will show the exiting city trails and sidewalks on page 7-43 will show the plan which will identify
all the recommendation changes and/or improvements.
■ Northwest Greenway
Evans directed the Commissioner to page 7-47 which starts the Northwest Greenway section. She
reminded the Commissioners that there is a separate Northwest Greenway plan. The information in
the Comprehensive Plan is to provide an overview of that specific Greenway plan. Evans then moved
to page 7-48 where she advised that an updated map with trail alignment visuals will be included. She
asked for questions or comments. There were none.
■ Natural Areas and Open Spaces
Evans stated the information in this section is old and she is not sure how much of this material will
remain in this section or be moved to another section. The planning department is working on some
of this and it remains an important component for the City. In recent conversations with Barb
Senness, Planning Manager, she has been told the parcels the City is picking up for easements for
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the Northwest Greenway are significant natural resources in Plymouth. She attributes this to paying
attention to the 2000 Comprehensive and Greenway Plan. Chairperson Fiemann asked for
comments. None were provided.
Evans moved on to the Recreational section of the plan which covers programs and services,
collaborations and partnership etc. Commissioner Singer inquired if this is were the wellness topic
would be addressed. Evans replied yes, page 7-66 will have future strategic actions called out.
Evans concluded her presentation by asking the Commissioner to contact her with further questions
or comments. The most recent Comprehensive Plan draft will be presented to the Commissioners at
the October meeting, with the caveat that changes to the draft will occur again, more than likely, at
the Planning Commission forum on October 17, 2007. Chairperson Fiemann directed members to
come prepared to the next meeting with any corrections or changes. Commissioner Krahulec asked
to have the packets with all the materials sent out Friday as opposed to Monday. Evans replied that
staff will make every attempt to accommodate that request. Commissioner Singer requested an
electronic copy if at all possible with Commissioner Anderson asking that maps be copied to larger
paper for an easier read.
o Appendices 713
■ Park Facilities Inventory
• City Parks
• Playfields
• Neighborhood Parks and Mini Park
The Commissioners were shown an example of how this section will be formatted. Evans added this
section has new graphics showing the parks outline, from an application called Landlogic.
o Appendices 7C
■ S.R.F. materials that have been presented to PRAC over the last four meetings
This material is in the process of being combined into one document and will be available at the
October meeting.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a 2008 Rental Rates for Plymouth Ice Center (please refer to memo and financial documentation for
complete details)
Blank reviewed the highlights of his memo
o No increase in the last two years
o Reserve fund for the maintenance of the facility has declined
o Request $10.00 increase per hour
o Wayzata Hockey Association is aware of the proposed increase
o Increase would occur January 1, 2008
Chairperson Fiemann asked for discussion. Commissioner Krahulec asked why the ice center rates
can be increased with only a two month notice, but the activity center requires 18 months. Blank
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informed the ice center does not have contracts that go out further than the end of the year where as
the activity center and garden contracts can go out the 18 months. With no further discussion
Chairperson Fiemann asked for a motion. Commissioner Krahulec moved for the increase and
Commissioner Knight second. The motion carried.
b. Request for Memorial at Parker Lake Playfield (please refer to memo, photos, and landscape
drawing for complete details)
Blank reviewed the highlights of his memo.
o No current policy is in place. Have reviewed these request an individual basis
o Memorial Garden for Carolyn Weisneburger, a long time member of the Youth Baseball
Association
o Memorial would be placed at Parker Lake Playfield
o Recommendation up for approval
• The Baseball Association is responsible for the total cost of installation
• The Baseball Association will be responsible for the annual care and maintenance of the
garden
• Should the Association choose to longer pay for the care and maintenance, the City has the
option to take over or remove the garden from the park
Chairperson Fiemann wondered in previous situation if a timeline was determined between the
incident and when memorials could be considered. Blank stated as there is no policy adopted, there
is no timeline.
Commissioner Krauhlec reviewed the maps and landscape description and was surprised there was
no mention of the honoree. and found that there would be only a small printed plaque with Carolyn's
name on it.
Chairperson Fieamnn asked if the City could review the plaque's size to insure it is appropriate and
Blank replied yes. Commissioner Singer stated they are calling this a memorial garden but there are
quite a few pavers so it appears to more of a plaza or structure rather than a garden. Maintaining a
garden is quite different that trying to maintain an entire structure. She suggested the verbiage in the
recommendation be changed to call it out as memorial structure and a garden. She questioned
whether in any of the City's policies there is reference for the maintenance for trees and benches and
who is responsible? Blank replied that is some cases benches already existed and people paid
money to have a plaque placed on it. It is understood that the City will not be responsible for them
forever. Commissioner Krahulec asked if they could wait on this until the Art Policy is in place and
Blank responded that the City Manager has put that on hold due to logistics. Chairperson Fiemann
asked if this would open up more memorial requests. Blank replied that you can't stop people from
asking when you have public facilities such as parks. Commissioner Smith asked when this person
passed and Blank stated a few years ago. Commissioner Singer stated that she is struggling because
it feels like an added structure to the park. Commissioner Smith commented that this may bring some
aesthetic improvements to the playfield. Commissioner Anderson wondered why no representative
from the Association came to the meeting. Blank replied that he had met with them twice and
informed them he was bringing this request to the meeting and didn't specifically ask them to attend.
Commissioner Anderson asked since there is not a current policy to address this issue, will there be
one in the future? Blank reiterated that it has been handled case by case and no policy has been
adopted. Chairperson Fiemann asked how this memorial would be used since it is downhill for the
baseball field. Blank replied the public would walk by it or step into it to view as you are unable to
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watch games from that location. Commissioner Singer moved to recommend the approval of the
memorial with the conditions as they are laid out in Blank's memo adding the verbiage of care and
maintenance of the entire area. Anderson second. Commissioner Singer made a final comment by
stating if even it does have to go case by case, she hopes going forward to get a policy in place that
outlines criteria and parameters. Chairperson Fiemann asked for a vote. Knight, Vanderwall, Smith,
Anderson voted in favor. Krahulec, Singer and Fiemann opposed.
As requested by the City Council, the following reasons were given as to why the Commissioners
opposed:
Commissioner Krahulec stated it would have been easy if we had a policy but barring that he had to
make a decision on its own merit and he doesn't care for the merits. If it were functional it would have
been different.
Chairperson Fiemann stated that memorials are fine if they serve some purpose or fit into the area.
He does not feel this memorial serves a functional purpose for the activities that take place in that at
area.
Commissioner Singer stated that she has verbalized most of her feelings throughout the discussion,
but added that she doesn't know Carolyn Weisenburger. It would have been helpful to know why a
memorial of 110 square feet be placed in her honor. She also believes that memorials can take any
for or size but this feels more like a public art display and she is not in favor of that without more
information and a policy in place.
Other:
Blank advised the Commissioner of the departure of the Plymouth Creek caterer, Suzanne's Cuisine.
Suzanne's Cuisine will be leaving effective 11-15-07, fulfilling the current signed contracts. An RFP
has been sent out to other caterers. Interviews and food tastings will take place over the next month
or so. There is the possibility of having more than one caterer in order to offer a variety of choices and
prices.
8. COMMISSIONER PRESENTATION
None was presented
9. ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Commissioner Fiemann asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner
Krahulec moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Vanderwall second. All ayes and the
meeting adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
The next meeting will be held on Thursday October 11, 2007.
Respectfully Submitted,
Mary Miller
PRAC recorder
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City of Plymouth Engineering Department
Active and Pending Public Improvement Projects
'roj. or Proj.
CIP Type of Manage Estimated
No. Proj. iProj. Descp, r Consult Total Cost Current Notes
Actrve Public Improvement Pra�ects
1013 S Fernbrook Ln. -27th to 34th - Design & ROW & DC/BM SRF $5,741,000 SRF Consulting Group, Inc. designated as
Construction engineer. Engineering Agreement approved.
Begin Preliminary Design. Public Information
meeting held 4/27/06. Representatives of four
properties in attendance. Staff determined
watermain replacement. Approval from Bassett
Creek Watershed has been received. Right of
way acquisition in progress. Final plan approval
requested from MnDOT. City Council approves
condemnation proceeding to acquire right-of-way
on 11/28/06. Sixteen of twenty properties
acquired. R/W condemnation hearing on
3/12/07. Right of entry set 3/27/07. Federal
Highway Administration (FHWA) approval
received. 5/24/07 - bid opening. FHWA
contract approval required. Contract awarded to
Eureka Construction on 6/27/07. Construction
started on 7/16/07. Medians removed traffic
shifted to center of road. Temporary traffic signal
installed at Highway 55 and Fernbrook
intersection. Widening started. Replacement of
trunk water main is completed. Pond grading is
completed. Storm sewer construction is
underway. Still waiting for Xcel to complete pole r
4141 S Petition Project - 47th Ave Street & Utilities DC/BB SRF $215,000 City Council awarded contract to R.P. Utilities,
Remove Inc. 8/9/05. Preconstruction meeting was held
8/10/05. Utilities are installed. Street to be built
in Spring 2006. Concrete curb and aggregate
base installed. Bituminous base installed,
bituminous wear and punch list items completed.
Engineer preparing final payment documents.
Meeting with contractor on 3/5/07 to discuss
project closeout. Negotiating with contractor to
close-out project. Final payment approved by
council on 7/10/07. Assessments, going to
Council for adoption 8/28/07. Assessments
adopted on 8/28/07.
4145 S S. Shore Drive Bridge Replacement RB BRA $350,000 Preliminary plans have been reviewed by
MnDOT. Working on final design then will be
submitted to state aid for funding. Constrution in
summer of 2009.
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5102
S
CR 101, CR 6 to CR 24
DC/BM
Henn.
$17,000,000
Preliminary layout of CR 101 approved by City
Co.
Council on 10/11/05. The plan is 30% complete.
Met with Hennepin County 4/4/06. City staff will
do engineering for watermain replacement. EAW
comments received and approved by County.
The plan is 90% complete. The County has sent
out property acquisition letter to affected property
owners. City working on watermain replacement
plan. Condemnation has been initiated by the
County.
5122
S
CR 24, Olive Ln. to 32nd Avenue
DC/BM
Henn.
$2,500,000
Co.
Preliminary layout approved by City Council
6/14/05. Construction scheduled for 2008.
Design in progress. Received Draft Layout
2/21/06. Met with Hennepin County design staff
on 5/2/06. City staff will do design engineering
for watermain replacement. Met with utility
companies on 5/24/06. Received draft plan on
5/23/06. City watermain replacement plan
completed and submitted to the County.
6108
S
Intersection Imp. - CR 47 & CR 61
RB
$1.2 million
Construction is underway, signals to be installed
starting this week. Storm sewer and pond
excavation work currently underway, but slow
due to all of the rain.
7101
S
2007 Street Reconstruction Project - Hawthorne
JR
$3,620,000
Base course asphalt placed in the entire area.
Ponds Area.
Sodding will likely begin the week of 9-24 in this
area.
7104
S
2007 Mill & Overlay - Vicksburg Lane
DC
566000 Final
Restoration, minor ped ramp work and hand work
$418,300
for striping needs to be completed yet. October 1
is final completion date. Milling, paving, and
striping has been completed. Assessment
hearinq to be held on 10/23
7107
S
2007 Street Reconstruction Project - City View
JR
$4,245,000
Base course asphalt has been placed throughout
Acres
the entire area. Sod has been installed in the
9th/11th and 13th/CR 101 areas and wear course
asphalt is expected the week of 9-24. Sod will be
installed on 12th/ Dunkirk Ln and 14th/Garland
areas in the next week. Contractor currently
digging out the pond on 14th Ave, west of
Garland Lane.
8108
SS
28th Ave. Lift Station Upgrade
RB/SN
$600,000
Engineering proposals received and going to
Council to designate engineer on Oct. 9.
Construction in summer of 2008 in conjunction
with the 2008 Street Reconstrution Project.
7144
P
2007 Revere Lane/Hwy. 55 Trail Project
RB
$50,000
Construction is 90% complete, only concrete ped
ramps and restoration remain.
3105
WR
Plymouth Creek Pond
RB/DA
Wenck
$900,000
Wenck is coming up with a few preliminary
designs which best utilitze the area while
maintaining the goal of phosphorus removal.
Staff will review their options and the next
meeting will be with all of the governmental
agencies involved in this project.
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4135
WR
CR 61/CR 9 Erosion Site
DC
BRA
$350,000
Options and estimated costs received 10/27/05.
Three options considered. Additional concerns
raised by Three Rivers staff. Consultant directed
to investigate drainage concerns south of County
Road 9. Three Rivers requesting City to proceed
with additional investigations south of County
Road 9. Meeting held 7/26/06 to discuss
downstream drainage issues with Three Rivers
Parks staff. Three Rivers preparing draft
agreement for review. The City has received
funding through BWSR. Further funding
discussions at City Council level are necessary.
Agreement approved by Council on 8/14/07.
Final Plans & Specs ordered.
6103 WR Repair Erosion - Wood Crk. DT/BM WENC $425,000 Preliminary designs are in progress. Trees have
K been marked. Public meetings took place to
review design with residents. Homeowner's
Association had a follow-up site visit with staff
on 3/19/07. Revised plans showing minor creek
adjustments being reviewed. HOA approved
required easement. Two site meetings being held
with HOA members week of 9/24 to ID valued
trees and creek shaping. Project going to
Council for plan approval and bidding on
10/9/07..
6113 WR Wickman Erosion Project RB $250,000 Trees have been marked for removal. Tree
removal scheduled to begin during the week of
October 8, depending on the weather. Storm
sewer pipe to follow.
7111 WR Mooney Lake Pump Project DT/BM WENC $250,000 Project included in MCWD CIP for 2007
K (permanent solution). Interim emergency
pumping plan is still required for 2007. Final
design from consultant and watershed approved.
Design out to bid and quotes were opened on
9/28.07. Apparent low bidder is Dave Perkins
Contracting. Cooperative agreement with MCWD
has been executed. Consultant finished final
design adjustments. Easements are being
prepared for affected property owners. Work is
expected to begin in 3-4 weeks, pending final
DNR approvals.
PerzdingPublic Improvement projects
W-2 W Watermain - Vicksburg Ln. - CR 47 to Schmidt $750,000 Dependent on development.
Lake Road
W-3 W Watermain - Cheshire Ln. - Glacier Vista to CR $370,000 Dependent on development.
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Hennepin County Human Services & Public Health Department
Aging and DisabilityServices
(612) 348-4111, Phone
Government Center 612-288-2981, Fax
300 South Sixth Street www.hennepin.us
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55487-0150
9/28/07
To: City Clerk, Plymouth, Minnesota
Re: Development of residential sites in your district
Residential Site: Hammer Residences, Inc.
Site Address: 1120 Ives Lane North, Plymouth, 5 5441-475 7
Contact Person: Lisbeth Vest Armstrong
Telephone: 952-277-2444
This is to inform you that a new residential site is in the process of being developed or has been
developed in your district. These are homes in which our Aging and Disability Services clients
choose to live, where they receive support and supervision from a service provider under
contract with Hennepin County or the Minnesota Department of Human Services.
Elderly persons and persons with disabilities have chosen to live and work in these
neighborhoods, and to utilize their financial resources to lease the home from the service
provider. To ensure a seamless entry into the community, service providers may have already
contacted neighbors to introduce themselves, and to minimize any concerns that the
neighborhood will experience any sense of change from the inclusion of its new neighbors.
Should you have any questions about this, please call the contact person at the service agency.
That person will be able to give you a full update regarding the status of the new development.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Sharon Goldschmidt
Senior Planning Analyst
Provider Relations
Human Services and Public Health Department
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Sandy Engdahl
Subject: FW: My Resignation from the Human Rights Commission
-----Original Message -----
From: Judith [mailto:jabl@xemaps.com]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:11 PM
To: Laurie Ahrens; hatchpl@hotmail.com; lois.robbins@wayzata.kl2.mn.us; Kim Olson;
clipper74@yahoo.com; brendan@tupalaw.com; Jeanette Sobania; aaldenl216@aol.com
Subject: My Resignation from the Human Rights Commission
Hi to All:
I am writing to let all of you know that I will be moving from
Minnesota in early November. My husband and I put our house on the
market earlier this year, and given the slowdown of the housing market
overall, we were not sure if we would be leaving Minnesota this year or
not. As it turned out, we were able to sell our house and will be
moving in November.
It has been an honor to have been appointed to the Human Rights
Commission. My tenure on the Commission, although brief, has been a
very positive experience and I will greatly miss working with all of you.
My best wishes to all.
Judith Labeck
1
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MEMO
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MN 55447
DATE: October 10, 2007
TO: Laurie Ahrens, City Manager
cc: Steve Juetten
FROM: Barbara Senne M, Planning Manager
SUBJECT: Hennepin County Adult Correctional Facility (HCACF) Population
Report
Hennepin County Community Corrections staff has submitted their monthly report on
average daily population for the month of September, 2007.
The average daily population reported for the Plymouth facility was 551, less than the
occupancy limit of 601 set by the Conditional Use Permit. The difference from the recent
months when the numbers exceeded the 601 limit comes from a lower number of County -
incarcerated (versus short term offenders transferred from MN Department of Corrections
facilities) in the Men's section.
The chart below shows the average monthly population since June of 1999.
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ANN H. REST
205 State Capitol
75 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd.
St. Paul, MN 55155-1606
Phone: (651) 296-2889
Fax: (651) 225-7590
E-mail: www.senate.nui/seu4t01rest
October 8, 2007
The Honorable Kelli Slavik
Mayor, City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, MN 55447-1482
Dear Mayor Slavik,
�_T aHl�i�l__ ,yam y.� '►"-- ��ti�YtdH
Senate
State of Minnesota
Minnesota will mark its 1501h anniversary.of statehood on May 11, 2008. Communities
throughout the state are joining with businesses, educational institutions and non-profit
organizations to plan events and programs to recognize Minnesota's sesquicentennial
throughout the coming year.
The Sesquicentennial Commission, a group created by the Legislature which includes
both public members and legislators is directed to oversee the statehood celebration.
Recent events under the auspices of the Commission include the unveiling of the design
for the commemorative stamp to be issued by the U. S. Postal Service in the spring of
2008. It features a view of the Mississippi River at Winona at dusk.. It is quite beautiful
and will be issued nationwide.
I am a member of the commission and want personally to invite you or a representative of
the city to attend the Sesquicentennial Coordinating Mini -Conference. The conference
will be held on October 24 at Roseville City Hall. Participants may attend either a
morning session from 10 AN to noon or an afternoon session fi-om 1 to 3 P.M.
The mini -conference will bring together representatives from communities and
organizations that have already planned Sesquicentennial events; the conference,
however, will present networking opportunities for new events to be planned as well.
Representing the communities of Crystal, Golden Valley, New Hope, Plymouth, and Robbinsdale
COMMITTEES: Chair, State and Local Govertunent Operations and Oversight
Energy, Utilities, Technology acid Conununications; State Government Budget Division;
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All participants at the conference will receive a briefing on plans already in place
including Statehood week activities and Plan for the Future meetings scheduled across
Minnesota. Vendors from the providers of official Sesquicentennial graphics,
merchandise, banners will be on hand. Please contact my office if you have any questions
about the Sesquicentennial or the Mini -Conference specifically.
To RSVP for the Mini -Conference, please call Karen Rickert at 651-296-1870 or email
her at Karen@mn 150years.org. I look forward to seeing you on October 24. You may
also want to visit the Sesquicentennial website at www.150years.org.
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State Senator
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COMMITTEES: Chair, State and Local Goverrunent Operations and Oversight;
Energy, Utilities, Technology and Conun ulications; State Government Budget Division;
Transportation Budget and Policy Division;
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To: Council
From: Sandy Hewitt
Attached is the copy of the City Council Agenda Report that discussed the Weld property,
which is 5605 Juneau Lane. It is presently guided as LA -RT. He would like us to
consider it to be change to LA -R2.
Steve Juetten showed the wrong property at our last council meeting, and so also attached
is a map of which property is Mr. Weld's.
I believe at the time the Council discussed this we made the decision to keep things the
way they are presently. Mr. Weld felt like the Council did not thoroughly take his request
into consideration, and requested that we look at it again.
Mr. Weld is presently trying to sell his property, but is having difficulty doing so. I did
encourage him to contact all of you, and so you may receive a call from him in the future
so that you can hear his story.
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Agenda Number:
TO: Laurie Ahrens, City Manager
FROM: Anne Hurlburt, Community Development Director (763-509-5401)
SUBJECT: Plymouth Comprehensive Plan Update: Preliminary Land Use Plan for
Northwest Plymouth. (2005050)
DATE: June 23, 2006 for the City Council Meeting of June 27, 2006
1. PROPOSED ACTION
Adopt the resolution approving a preliminary land use plan for Northwest Plymouth. The
Council may wish to make additional motions giving staff direction for future work on the
Comprehensive Plan update.
2. BACKGROUND
At the last regular City Council meeting, the Council made changes in the May 31, 2006
Council Option plan which are now incorporated into the plan map labeled "Preliminary Land
Use Plan" and dated June 13, 2006. The -Council directed that the plan be brought to the June
27, 2006 City Council meeting for any final changes and approval. The preliminary land use
map, along with data tables and charts, was distributed to Council members on June 9, 2006
and made available to the public on the City's website.
3. DISCUSSION
The Council may wish to discuss the following issues prior to approval of the preliminary land
use plan:
Weld property, 5605 Juneau Lane-- At the June 13 meeting, the Council considered a number
of landowner requests for specific changes to the preliminary land use plan which were
transmitted to the Council in the staff report. Several landowner requests and one of the staff -
recommended changes concerned the former Hampton Hills property and a number of the
surrounding residential parcels. After the meeting, staff was contacted by Stephen Weld, 5605
Juneau Lane, about their request (see the attached letter dated June 16, 2006). Mr. Weld was
confused about whether or not his property was included when the Council voted to adopt staff -
suggested change #9 (changing several properties from LA -R1 and LA -RT to LA -R2). During
the discussion of potential changes, staff asked whether the Council had considered landowner
requests "g," "h" and "i." The question was answered in the affirmative, with the notation that
all three were included in staff change #9. However, in fact, staff had not included property "i,"
the Weld's property, in #9 as the request came in after the staff report was finalized.
The Welds had asked that their property be classified the same as the former Hampton Hills
and the site to the west, which are shown as LA -R2 on the preliminary plan map. They also
asked that the Council clarify that this was the intent at the June 13 meeting.
Additional landowner requests for plan changes-- Since the last meeting, a letter (see
attached) was received from Karen Lomsdal requesting that her property at 5655 Juneau Lane
be classified as LA -R2, rather than LA -RT as shown on the June 13 plan. This is a new
request. A location map showing this site, and the Weld property noted above, is also attached
to this report. The Council should decide if any additional landowner requests will be
considered prior to adopting the preliminary land use plan.
Proposed 100 foot setback from major roadways-- Prior to the June 13 meeting, the Council
had received resident comments in opposition to the proposed 100 -foot (as opposed to the
current 50 -foot setback) from major roads. A new e-mail (see attached) concerning the impact
of the 100 -foot setback was also received on June 21 from a developer who has the site at the
northwest corner of Vicksburg and County Road 47 under contract. The purpose of the
setback is to help maintain rural character along the major roadways (Vicksburg, Peony, CR
101 & CR47). Since the meeting, staff has also received questions that indicate some
confusion about how this setback would apply. Some may be under the impression that the
setback applies only to properties within one of the transition area land use designations (LA -
RT, LA -R1, etc.). The intent of the setback was that it would apply to all properties within
the Northwest Plymouth Overlay, not just the new transition area designations. If that is not
the Council's intent, this should be clarified when you approve the preliminary land use plan.
If the Council wishes to apply the setback to some roads and not others (for example, apply it
only to CR47 west of Vicksburg and to Peony Lane), you could also give that direction.
Financing of roadway infrastructure-- At the June 13 meeting, the Council received a copy
of a letter from City Attorney Roger Knutson to Council member Bildsoe, explaining that non -
abutting property may be assessed for street improvements if they receive a benefit (see letter
attached.) The letter recommended that consideration be given to including a statement in the
City's Comprehensive Plan that development be contingent upon having the necessary public
infrastructure in place. Staff is in agreement that language on timing and staging needs to be
included in the land use plan chapter, and must be tied together with other chapters of the plan
(particularly transportation, sewer and water) and coordinated with the city's Capital
Improvement Program and assessment policies. Councilmember Bildsoe has requested that the
Council consider formally giving this direction to staff.
4. NEXT STEPS
After the Council approves the preliminary land use plan for Northwest Plymouth, the next step
would be for staff to meet informally with the Metropolitan Council staff, to determine whether
or not there might be the potential for finding a significant departure from or impact on the
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regional sewer system plan. If it appears that there might be a potential for that finding, we will
report back to the Council on options for resolving the conflict. While that discussion is
occurring, the team working on the land use plan will begin drafting the plan language and
policies for the Northwest Plymouth Overlay area and the new LA -R land use classifications,
which will eventually be brought back to the Planning Commission and Council for review.
The land use plan for northwest Plymouth is only one piece of the Comprehensive Plan update.
Staff is beginning a review of land use issues in the rest of the City. We expect to bring a
preliminary report to the Planning Commission and Council in late summer. At that time the
Council would determine what public process would be necessary to address those issues and to
complete the proposed 2030 land use plan for the City as a whole.
Staff will also develop the scope of work for the other plan elements, and start the process of
selecting consultants to assist with the technical aspects of the transportation, sewer and water
plan chapters. Work on these elements can begin after the land use plan for the city as a whole
is finalized. Since each one of these individual plans must work together and with the land use
plan, we can expect some course corrections in one or more parts of the overall plan as we move
toward final plan completion. The goal is to complete the overall update and begin the formal
plan adoption process (which requires review by adjacent communities and the Metropolitan
Council) in mid -2007.
5. RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Council adopt the resolution approving a preliminary land use plan for
Northwest Plymouth. The Council may wish to make additional motions giving staff direction
for the Comprehensive Plan, including:
• Clarifying the intended guiding of the Weld property (5605 Juneau Lane)
• Responding to any new landowner requests for plan changes, including the request by
Karen Lomsdal (5655 Juneau Lane)
• Clarifying the intent of whether and where to apply the recommended 100 -foot setback
along major roadways within the Northwest Plymouth Overlay area
• Giving staff direction to include language on timing and staging in the land use plan
chapter, to be tied together with other chapters of the plan (particularly transportation,
sewer and water) and coordinated with the city's Capital Improvement Program and
assessment policies.
ATTACHMENTS:
1. Public comments received between June 13, 2006 and June 23, 2006
a. Letter from Steven Weld dated June 16, 2006
b. E-mail from Jim & Connie Schweigert dated June 20, 2006
c. E-mail from Lynn Giovannelli, Miles Development Corp., dated June 21, 2006
d. Letters from Karen Lomsdal dated June 22, 2006
2. Location Map, Weld and Lomsdal properties
3. Letter from Roger Knutson dated June 12, 2006
-24.Preliminary Land Use Plan, June 13, 2006
5. Table & graphics comparing six land use plan maps
6. Draft resolution