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At . (regular) ($pdW meeting of the Village CQyH,ci,1 _
of the Village of Plymouth duly hiid on the
1h day of .dune , 19 60, the following resolution. was
offered by 'PrIlaleg ffPP7'P i
seconded by Iruaee Kreaz
IMMAS THE Commissioner of Highways has prepared
preliminary plans for the improvement of a part of Trunk Highway
limber 188 renumbered as Trunk Highway Number s- within the
corporate limits of the Villagg_ of Plymouth from the
NjimeaRclis At,, Paul & SaultStU 40• Mario Crossing to 15000 Et of -4-
Jot. C.S.A.H, 3, S.P. 2722-2 (55-288) and S.P. 2723-2 (T.H. .55-2885
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WHEMAS said preliminary plans aro on file in the office of
the Department of Highways, Saint Paul, Minnesota, being marked,
labeled, azd identified as I,evouj_j8j V e t of Pl outh TYP._ _ 1
from Jct. C.S.A.H. 9 to 1500' E. of Jct. C.S.A.H. 6
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HSS copies of said ureliminary plana as so marked, labeled
and identified are also on file in the office of the Village Clerk;
and
MMAS the term "said preliminary plans" as hereinafter used
In the body of this resolution shall be deemed and intended to moan,
refer to, and incorporate the preliminary plans as in the ffregoing
recitals particularly identified and described;
W, TIM, BE IT RMOLVED that said preliminary plans for the
of Truck Highvay_.Bnmber 2$8 renumbered Trunk Highway
Yumber 55 within the limits of the Village Of Plymouth
be xnA ho%rehy are approved.
Form 251
Uper. the call of tha roll the follwi,ng
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r` t -W a+ the R080%lution l eryor Anderson, Trustees Keefe. Kreatz,
,Bahly and Theis _
The following _ � . ti otaci against its sdoptior s
None
whereupon the k4yor and prodding officer declared the Resolution adopted.
Dated �t„�, ne 7. .. • 1960
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Attest
p;IIMAM ! Clerk
STATE OF 93SUMOTA )
COB1A2'Y OF os.
=UAQrb-- or PLYMOU11 )
I do hereby certify that at a re or roe IM 11 19
x Ail atlbMq - of the VilL&& Council
of pInauth _ • Minnesota, on the 7th day of T-uua 19.f1g.
at which a majority of the members of sold Council were present, the foregoin6
resolution eras adopted.
Given under_ my hand %nd seal this � tb day of &Re__,.,,
—VLll!LClark
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Form 221
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At u (regular) (1jj%&p 'I meating of the
of the of 94"""--- duly held on the
day af_ , 19, the following resolution was
offered by .... , ;
to -reit:
HHERLM THE Commissioner of Highvrays has prepared
preliminary plans for the improvement of 6, part of Trunk Highway
Numberrenumbered as Trunk Higiaray Number_ _ within the
aorparate limits of the yam_ of Mpmsuft from the
Kfiftoars"s Sow PMA 1 111-4,16 ---
Jiaet. C�B.A.R. (i, $.F. 2722-R8 (55:288) sad B.P. 2 &'m (T.g. 55.28$)
YIIMSM,PS said preliminary plans are on file in the office of
the Department of Higtnvays, Saint Paul, Minnosota, being marked,
ltsbelbd, Brad identified ash"
from Jot. C.B.A.x. 9 to 1500 E. of Jot. C.S.A•S.
and 4
WMREd6 copies of said preliminary plans as so marked, labeled
and identified are also on file in the office of theyi»t." ClerkI
and
MMFMA6 the term "said preliminary plans" as hereinafter used
In the body of this resolution shall be deemed and intended to mean,
refer to, and inoorporate the preliminary plans as in the fAregoing
recitnIs partioalsrly SdentifW and deseribedI
NW, THEM, BE IT 4880LVED that said preliminary plans for the
1v rrav*mas*-.nf Trunk. Highwty.Xunber y}g„_reaueb&red Irunk Highway
4umber_5j_ within the limits of thetT� ci'
b,!o %nA hereby are apprmod.
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R$S OLUT IC2i
X 50
At u (regular) (1jj%&p 'I meating of the
of the of 94"""--- duly held on the
day af_ , 19, the following resolution was
offered by .... , ;
to -reit:
HHERLM THE Commissioner of Highvrays has prepared
preliminary plans for the improvement of 6, part of Trunk Highway
Numberrenumbered as Trunk Higiaray Number_ _ within the
aorparate limits of the yam_ of Mpmsuft from the
Kfiftoars"s Sow PMA 1 111-4,16 ---
Jiaet. C�B.A.R. (i, $.F. 2722-R8 (55:288) sad B.P. 2 &'m (T.g. 55.28$)
YIIMSM,PS said preliminary plans are on file in the office of
the Department of Higtnvays, Saint Paul, Minnosota, being marked,
ltsbelbd, Brad identified ash"
from Jot. C.B.A.x. 9 to 1500 E. of Jot. C.S.A•S.
and 4
WMREd6 copies of said preliminary plans as so marked, labeled
and identified are also on file in the office of theyi»t." ClerkI
and
MMFMA6 the term "said preliminary plans" as hereinafter used
In the body of this resolution shall be deemed and intended to mean,
refer to, and inoorporate the preliminary plans as in the fAregoing
recitnIs partioalsrly SdentifW and deseribedI
NW, THEM, BE IT 4880LVED that said preliminary plans for the
1v rrav*mas*-.nf Trunk. Highwty.Xunber y}g„_reaueb&red Irunk Highway
4umber_5j_ within the limits of thetT� ci'
b,!o %nA hereby are apprmod.
The following _.atod against Its ldeptior.:
None
+rhersupor. the Mayor and presiding officer declared the Resolution adopted.
I do hereby certify that at a regular meting (XNXXKXPNNM
dvaa auodt>,ncrEfo[sc7r�lule0�q� of the :i a Council
of Minnesota, on the 7th day of uz6 lye,
at which a majority of the membors et said Council were presents the foregoing
resolution was adopted•
Given under my ha -A find seal this 7th day of June 1q6o .
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Yills�a Clark
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Transcript of the Public Hearing held
at the Beacon Beights School in Ply-
mouth Village on April 21, 1960, at
7:30 p.m. to consider the economic
effects of the proposed lunrovcment
of T.H. 55 (S.P. 2722 and 2723), ex-
tending Prem Hamel to a point 1500
feet east of Hennepin County Hoed 6.
frank D. Morzitelli, Deputy Commissioner of HigbAWs, Minnesota Highway
Department: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen: I am certainly pleased that you
found it possible to attend this public hearing this evening. I know that you join
with me in hoping that a great deal of good will come from this meeting.
In order to better accomplish our purpose, we will try to be as informal
as possible in the conducting of this hearing because in that way I know you will
feel mote free to express yourselves. By maintaining this informality, I hope that
we can stimulate a feeling of cooperation between you and the Department of UP -
ways -- an attitude which will be necessary if we are to do the most good for the
people of the Village of Plymouth and the residents of the surrounding areae.
I em Frank D. liarsitelli, Deputy Commissioner of Highswaye for the State of
Minnesota. I, along with Mr. Q. F. Welch, out District aogiaeer, his assistants
ZdL Borneo, Werett Vevea and Norman Ostorb9, and Swett Martineau and Bogard Owen
of our Public Information Section, an bore to conduct this hearing which will con-
sider the economic effects of the proposed improvement of Trent Higbwey 55, to be
outlined by Mr. Heinen.
Let me point out here that we are not concerned with the detailed design
of tbo" improvements tonight, but should attempt to limit our discussions to the
economic effects these improvements will have upon you and your comeraaity.
This meeting is being held in accordance with Title 21 United States Code,
Section 128, which requires such public hearings to be bald whenever we propose Im-
provements to a federal aid highway which either goes through or by-passes a eamou-
nity. But, although this type of hearing is mandatory under that law, we of the
Department are happy that it gives us an opportunity to receive from you your cm -
menta and suggestions.
You see tiers a couple of tape recorders. Don't let them frighten you or
prevent you from saying anything you wish to say which is pertinent to this meeting.
We ars regiArad to provide the Bureau of Public loads with a transcript of these
proceedings, and the best and easiest way to do that is to record everytbiag which
is said. Tberefore, I will appreciate it very much if anyone who wishes to speak
will use the micraybons which will be made available to you so that your remarks may
be recorded and made a part of the proceedings of this meeting. Before asking your
question or making a statement, please state your name and any organisation you may
be representing so that we can identify the comments when the tape recording is
transcribed.
First of all, I will call upon our Assistant District Engineers Mr. Heinen
to masse the proposal; then I will ask the village, county and school officials and
civic leaders to make any convents they may wish regarding these proposals. And,
finally, I will invite anyone else present here tonight to make statements in favor
of, or in opposition to, the proposals as outlined by Mr. Heinen.
Now that I have outlined our purpose for being here and have acquainted you
with the simple rules for this evening's meeting, I will ask Mr. Heinen to take
over and make the Department's presentation.
Mr. Heinen: Good evening ladies and gentlemen.
We have two types of interchanges I would like to describe, as shown on
these large layouts. One is a diamond type interchange, whereby the major highway
is taker, over the minor highway; that is, a divided four lane highway is taken over
with two bridges and the minor highway goes underneath. This type of interchange
providers access to all four quadrants so that traffic on either highway may inter-
change through the ramp legs and make a movement back through under the bridges.
The other layout we have is purely a highww, crossroad separation. Here
the minor highway bridges the major highway with the divided four lanes of the major
roadway going under.
The diamond type of interchange takes approximately 25 acres of land and
costs about $300,000 to build. A highway separation takes relatively a little more
right of way than needed for the highway, another additional 10 acres, and costs in
the vicinity of $200,000 to build, which is mainly the cost of the bridge and the
ramping.
We use these two types of interchanges in our expressway design and our
freeway design. The Interstate system will be built to freeway design and this
particular section of T.H. 55 that we are looking at tonight will be built to an
expressway design, whereby we provide crossing at grade for township roads, county
roads or trunk highways that intersect.
The particular section on T.H. 55 that we're concerned with starts on the
westerly end of the village of Hamel, just east of the Minneapolis -St. Paul, and
Sault Ste. Marie railroad, and runs eaterly to approximately 1,500 feet east of
County Road 6. The right of way was purchased some years ago and one roadway was
constructed at that time. The proposal is now to construct the other roadway with
a depressed island in the center so the highway.will be 75 feet between the center
of the roadways.
Starting at the westerly end at the Hamel Inn, the proposal is to connect
onto the present existing divided lane highway that goes underneath the railroad.
CSAR 9, which now crosses T.H. 55 at quite an acute angle, will be brought parallel
to T.H. 55 to a point at about Station 1215; it will cross in a northerly direction
and go on up CSAR 9.
We will also construct a frontage road along the north side of T.H. 55 to
supply access to the homes and onto the county highway at that point. On the south-
erly side it is proposed to construct a service road to carry CSAH 9 to Station 123.5,
and then construct a frontage road up into Smith's Gardens Addition to take care of
the homes in that area. There will also be a crossover constructed at this point,
at the present entrance from Smith's Gardens.
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The roadway now in place then will become the vest bound roadway and the
new construction will be the east bound roadway on the south side of the present
right of vay.
The next crossover will be a grade crossing at T.H. 101. T.H. 55 continues
in an easterly and southerly direction.
The next proposed crossover is at the development at about Station 1260.
There are a number of homes in that platted area, and we'll provide a crossover at
that point. The next location would be at approximately Station 1283, which is on
sixteenth line of Section 17.
The next proposed crossover is on County Road 74. This is an at -grade
crossing; again, the county road cuts T.H. 55 at an angle. We will relocate the
county road that now intersects the trunk highw-., it Station 1310, and relocete that
into this same intersection so that there will not be two access points from the
county road within 500 feet. This is done for the safety of the motorists entering
there.
As we go in easterly, the next crossover is on the section line between
Sections 20 and 21. The next crossover is at the center of Section 21, and provides
access to a township road from the south.
The next crossover is at Ptilip Eike's farmstead. Then, the next one is et
the township road that runs between Sections 21 and 22. We plan to construct the
east bound roadway through this point, and this is the proposed intersection with
Interstate Route 494. This will be a diamond type interchange similar to the one
shown in this layout. At this point T.H. 55 vi11 go over Interstate Route 494 and
the legs will be constructed parallel to Interstate Route 494.
Continuing easterly, the next crossover connects onto a town road that runs
In the center of Section 22. Here again, on the north side we propose to construct
a frontage read ':o connect the two township reads, the one that runs northerly and
the one that rwz easterly, to a corm intersection to bring them across at that
point.
The next crossover is at about Station 1438, w*. ^ ttie lanes now cross; the
construction will be for the vest bound roadway from ;;`.,is point on into County Rosd6.
We have a crossover at Station 1445 and then a crossover for County Road c,
which now intersects T.H. 55. We will reconstruct a portion of the roadway on the
east bound lane now in towards Minneapolis, and a new bridge will be constructed on
that roadway over the railroad.
The present right of way has restricted or limited access on it and the
taking of additional right of way will involve very little land, other than obtaining
some borrow areas from which to obtain material. Some of the access closed off in
this condemnation.
I believe that completes my presentation, Mr. Marzitel].i.
Mr. Marzitelli: Thank you, Mr. Heinen. As we stated in the first part of
the meeting, ane will first call upon the officials of the village of Plymouth; so if
tkyor Anderson is present and desires to make a statement, we'd appreciate receiving
it at this time.
Howard C. Anderson: I'm the Mayor of Plymouth village. Gentlemen, I see
a lot of d_ewiggs here, and actually the only question I cera think of at this time
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I& this: If at some future date our development is such so that we have to have a
service road rumning alongside this road here that you propose, can we as a village
enter the property and use this property that the state owns, as part of our right
Of vayt Nov: I imagine this is getting back to your gaestion as to design and I
don't know is it is proper or not, but if so would someone please answer it?
Mr. Heinen: In most instances we have a 225 -foot basic right of way, and
includes 75 feet on either side of the proposed two lanes. Right of way widths
would not be sufficient for service read construction.
Mayor Anderson: Well, then, assuming that the right of va%� is not su_rfi-
cient, I take it that it is the higtiway policy not to provide servlce mads unlees
these accesses that you have left here are restricted completely, is this right?
Mr. liarzitel.U: The policy of the Minnesota Highway Dep%rtment, as well as
the U.B. Bureau of Puhiic Roads, is not to provide service roads if there is no
traffic demand or the abutting property is not improved or developed. In other
words, if you just have open area property and there is no traffic demand, and there
are no improvements that. v --WA generate traffic at the time that the construction or
the reconstruction is going to take place, no frontage roads or service roads would
be provided at state or federal expense.
However, if in the future improvements are made upon the land that abuts
the highway, then, of course, it would be treated like any other village or municiFal
street, and it would be the responsibility of that governmental unit to provide three
facilities.
Mayor Anderson: I take it then that this project is not regarded or rather
looked at with the same stringent rules of construction as the one on Trunk High -
my 3.2. I notice we have a nusber of access points along here which are not avail-
able on hi&aay 12. '+That I an trying to get at is, if development is such that we
have considerable cross traffic in here at a future date, would it be the Highway
Depaataent's policy -in trying to restrict this crossing traffic by closing your
access to provide service roads" In other words, I may be looking a number of years
to the future, but right nov it seems like a fair question.
Mr. Marzitelli: Those access points would remain, wouldn't they, Mr.Hel:en?
Mr. Heinen: The access points would remain, but if we did go in and take
the limited access then it would have to be considered in the taking of the access
at that time.
Mayor Anderson: In other words, if you took the access, then you would
have to give us some sort of service road so that we could travel from one point to
another.
Mr. Be'—: No, not since there is limited access already on the highway.
We've already taken limited access except at particular openings, now.
Mayor Anderson: If this open land should be developed and platted, would
it then be up to the village to obtain the land and provide the service road that
would cors in at these crossover points?
Mr. Heinen: Not exactly.
Mayor Anderson: We know that we are going to iawre a transportation problem
and I think probably the school district would be most concerned as well as thn
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individuals. When this is platted you are going to have !a tremendous grunt of
traffic earning in through here and if this were true, then my thought is, will the
Higb,W Department at some future date close this off and try to bring the tr&M%
over to the interchanges where you have an actual grade difference an to the two
read t, I
Mr. Beinan: We would then have to construct an interchange at Trunk High-
way 101, for instance, or at a county road.
Mayor Anderson: In other words, you are not going to take our access away
without upgrading the road if you can make provision for it.
Mr. Heinen: That would be my understanding of it.
Mayor Anderson: I have no further questions.
Mr. Marzitel11:
Thank you, Mayor Anderson.
Is the village clerk, Mr. Johnson, present and if so does he desire to make
a statement? If not, is the village engineer, Phlph Frederickson, present and does
he desire to mL*e a statement?
Ralph Frederickson, village engineer of Plymouth: The only question that I
have is in regard to all of these crossovers. There are a lot of them and I am won-
dering if the design will include acceleration and deceleration lanes?
Mr. Heinen: Yes. Where the turning movements warrant a deceleration or an
acceleration lane, they will be included in the construction.
Mr. Frederickson: That is the only comment that I L e.
Mr. Marzitelli: Thank you very much, Mr. Frederickson.
it there any other elected or appointed official tray the village of Ply-
mouth who desires to make a statement? If not, than ae'11 proceed to the represea-
tatives of Hennepin county.
Is the county auditor, Mr. Fitzsimmons present? If not, is County Commis-
sioaeT S. Be Ainsworth present? If not, is the county engineer, Mr. Pederson pres-
QUO Is amy county official present who desires to maks a statement?
I ve A. L. McKay# assistant county engineer for Neanspin county: The only
comments I have are primarily on design, except fbr the location of the present con-
nection an the east end of our County Road, 6 with Trunk iisbw y 55• Sms the county,
would like to see that moved back a little bit flarthar to the wast to get WO&Y from
the present railroad structures which would make for a little safer intersection and
give us a chance for acceleration and deceleration lanes.
We have one problem on the westerly end where County Road No. 9 comes i&,.o
Trunk Htghy 55 dust east of Hemel. By the ways County ibad go. 9 does not go be-
yond Trunk 31*m y 55; it eemes in right there and that is the end of it. There is a
considerable ssaunt of traffic casing fru the vest and going met over County Hoed
No. 9 throve Plymouth, Crystal., Robbinadale and into North Miemeapolis. Somday I
believe it would require a separation between County Road 9 and Truk 1l*may 55,. arA
the only practical location that I own see at the present time for that interchange
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would be where present Trunk Highway 101 crosses 55 and you swing up to the north-
east to the curve on County Road 9. That would give you a connection to Trunk High-
way 101 and 54' . I have no other remarks to make.
Mr. Marzitelll: Thank you, Mr. McKay.
present.? Is State Senator Bergerud present? If not, to State Representative Perish
If not, are there any school representatives, achool superintendents,
school boas,4 members or school princi!xxls present wino lesiz_ to mace a statement?
Dr. Gorman, Wayzata school district boardo I think, gentlemen, we are at
the crossroads here tonight. We ata kind of woe --W, fur both ends. At least that's
the way I summarize this. We are barnbnrded -11th acts and figures by the Metropoli-
tan Plenning commission. They tell us to puV our tiour a in order as a school dis-
trict for an ultimate population of 1E,000 s,;mAeMts. Then we are building this
highway here and our planning is Ln ar.cordance with 1Ais of open area. I think,
Mayor Anderson, that you are right in bringing iV tke problems in regard to the so-
called service roads and croasom.-m. I think mat is a very important factor.
To us in the school dis arida, transly4t at; ou is a very important question
and it will be even more importtart In the futurd becFAuse there is a definite trend
to remove support frac the state. In tact, the school district in the future will
carry lots more of the load In regard to bus tratulcrtation. Now that means higher
t =s for us and for every m:V a tvxvelled, and me" that in mind, I would :Ay
that ire should bear in mind that +.hese structures shauld be included in this map at -
this time in our planning; beeeusa if we go 10 or 15 years from now to add some of
these essential structures they ars going +.o cost •ae lots more money, and a lot of
problems in the mean time.
There to one sore question I'd lil:e to a* in regard to these crossovers.
What about the distance bare in regard to buses? Sant seams to be a problem. For
instance, on Trunk Highway 3.2 is the width betwee:. r adwmys long enough for buses
to stop there in crossing over?
Mr. Seinen: The distance between the shoul4ers is about 40 feet, providing
enough if lime
Mr. Marcitelli: There is enough apace so that a bus could enter it witL-
out interfering with oncoming traffic or with opposing traffic.
Dr. Gorman: I see. Well, there is another Pactor here and it will became
evident more in the future than it is now, but it is quite evident now wren on
Truk Siglwray 12. There is quite a trend to advocate public transportation for
people that work downtown. Now the question in my mind is, when you have a very
limited crossover, holt are the people going to catch the buses in winter when there
Is saawt Now we have, for instance, all of the cross-roads plowed, but in the fu-
ture they will not be, is that right? Now are people going to get across the snow?
Mr. Heinen: Between the island, you mean, where the roadway is divided?
Dr. Gorman: Yes, in order to catch public transportation.
Mr. Heinen: Your problem is that it would be necessary to covstruc* either
a frontage road or an access road that would have two-way traffic on it.
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Dr. Gorman: Then you'd have to duplicate your public transportation as
both sides of the road, voulda't you.
Mr. Seinen: As the area develops into a residential area, the village or
the municipality would have to provide streets througb that area.
Dr. Gorman: Thanks. Then there is one other question. We have iareeti-
gated a number of sites and we have a maber of sites for new schools Siong this
road. If we locate a new school will additional entrances be built?
Mr. F%rzite1U : If you locate a new school site, the district engineer
would be happy `.o sit down with the school authorities to determine what provision
can be made in )rder that that facility can be properly served.
Dr. Gonmeu: Well, I am glad to hear that because we will be calling on him
in the near future on several of these sites.
In closing, I would say that I see that there is a lot of planning that has
gone into this and I see you have a lot of romp ahead of you.. I think that one of
the main factors that we have to bear in wind is that these now highways are not a
social and economical and an educational barrier. Some of thma seem to be planned
that way, and I hope that this is not one of these. Thank you.
Mr. Marsitelli: One question raised by the dmiAr that probably Could use
a little clarification is the request that the Nim+a.: wets Hidmwsy Department aon-
struet today those highway 1 _ - - gimme-- a that aey be needled in the par 1973 or 199D.
We are completely cognisant in the Mincr=sota Rigbmay Department as to the projected
growth of not only the Twin City Metropolitan area but the rive county area Which
comes under the jurisdiction of the Metropolitan Planning CoamissiOn.
In fact, I feel a little proud of the Metropolitan Planning COmNissiOn,
because as a member of the St. Paul pita council, I not Only introduced the resolu-
tIon. for the creation of the Metropolitan Planning Commission but also, W Olrisea
of the legislative committee of the St. Paul city council, helped in its passsp,
in a small way, before the state legislature.
We do have on the Metropolitan Planoia�g Comission two raP'"seactatives of
the Minnesota Highway Department, so that the department and the Ommlsslon know
what each is doing in the best public interest. Also, Me have a OOrplste e=hange
of information. The Metropolitan Flaming Commission has access to OW and all of
the records of the Minnesota Highway Department and those hurray i■j§ovsmmats v
they ars being developed.
The thing that we are afrmid of is that if ve were to cegly Witb all or
the requests that ars mads to construct service meds, front'bp turfs, 6n As 901015
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tions and interchanges for the traffic oftmwAmm - sal that. traffic in our opdaicn
isn't going to develop for a period of lo, 15 or 20 years • the cost item Would be
one which would cause a lot of public resentment, because it would be a facility
timet would receive 7.itt3e or no use for a period of rears. we would be accused,
than,, of what is referred to as over-desigrmirk.
We have made and are making studies to measure toe 1971-1990 traffic ds -
made, from Which we determine se aecumtely as possible Oust vaat the land uses
are going to be in that community to which we intend to sive this traffic service.
As has been stated, we attempt to design and construct only "bone facilities which
we think are needed; bowever, if the growth is more rapid than what we have been
able to aeasure, the Mimesota Highway Department is always happy to sit down with
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the govermautal units concerned and give consideration to whatever changes have to
be Made. our job, In to reader a traffic service.
To provide these additional facilities before the need exists or too soon
before the need can be justified, would bring about not only a veto insofar as the
Minnesota Fighway Department is concerned as to the expenditure of the state col-
lected truck highway dvl]ar - but I can assure you that based on our own experience
the Bureau of Public Roads of the United States government would not participate in
their share of the cost of such construction.
I think that what we nave to do is to design and construct these rrAds so
that they will give the proper traffic service to the cmmunity, keeping in mind, of
course, the future growth and attempting to measure it, and than be willing to meet
whatever change is necessary when the traffic demand arises.
It would be nice if we could come in and construct a complete facility on
the basis of what we think the growth is going to be for the year 1975 or the year
1980, but I am afraid it would be termed a economic waste and we could be severly
criticised. In other words, Doctor Gorman, 1t might put us in the same position as
you might be in if you were to build school rocrc !facilities today to met that 1975
or 1990 class load of 18,000 more school children and then have empty classrooms for
a period of three, four or five years. I am afraid that you too would be severly
criticized for it.
Dr. Gorman: I would like to answer that argument. Isn't it wise to plan
for the fature because now a lot of places entail extra purchase? It's a matter of
just plann'ng, that's what my point was.
Mr. Marsitelli: We do plan for .he future and we intend to construct for
the immediate future, but we can't construct for the ultimate or oybinum needs be-
cause, as I said, we would be over -designing. We would be building a trunk Ligb w
that would get little or no use insofar as certain of those facilities are concerned
and we'd be over building.
The Minnesota Highway Department recognizes that it bas to construct and
maintain trunk highways to give traffic service; and the fact that it is an organi-
zation that will remain as long as we have a state government testifies that we are
always going to be cognizant of those needs. If we don't recognize them in advance,
I am quite sure that the people, through their own local units of government, will
call that to the attention of the state highway officials and those responsibllitie3
will than be met.
I think that one of the other questions that you raised is whose responsi-
bility is it to give the toteal traffic services required. There you have different
levels of gove=rnent that have a responsibility. The federal goverment is responsi-
ble on certain classl- ications of roads; the state higbaay deparonent is responsi-
ble for another classification of roads; and, as your county engineer representative
will testify, the county is also responsible for another classification of roads.
Then, there is a local unit of government responsibility.
What we attempt to do is to classify that and then let that unit of govern-
ment which is prinicipally responsible underwrite tL+ cost of those traffic facili-
ties that are required. loos,, in this particular case, if the property were improved
and if there were an immediate traffic demand for the frontage read, whit then, of
course, we would feel obligee? to make prr/vision for that.
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However, it it is open 'land, even though it say be platted, and there isn't
any ispraveat on the properWo the posi.tim that we would have to take is that
it wouldnOt be a prudent expenditure of the taxpayers' dollsto construct those
facilities. The sage policy prevails, throughout the entire state, not only on this
section of Trunk Highway 55. In such a case, then, when the iaprov !'s are made
they should be the r L%=sibility of the local unit of gowrowwit and should be
treated the same as the Local land use street would be treated. Of course, the
goveremsat, could either provide that ext of general taxation or on an assess mut
basis, or probably require the developer himself to sake those provisions; or it
could be a combination of whatww type of financing Into whdch the village rafted
to enter.
Is there any other school representative present then who malts to auks a
statement? If not, is there anyone present who wants to aloe a statsewt supporting
the highway isproveoent as presented bDr our assistant district eoginser, Mr. Heinen?
Is there anyone present who wants to make a statement in support?
If not, then, is there anyone present who wants to maks a statement in
opposition to the highway improvaasrxt as pretentod tr our assistant district W41 -
neer, Mr. Heinen? Is there anyone present who wants to make a statement in oppo-
sition?
If not, is them anyone present who desires to ask a question? Is there
aurone who wants -acre informti on relative to this hdOaay ? Is there
wWbo$y present who wants to ask a question?
C. H. pores, planning con dedon, Mynwaths I would IMIS to Inion wdmtber
there is going to be an access or a service rood ala601de TrA* R&OW 55 when
you planan gig out Trunk MO=W 55 herei if thaw, 11 be a serv'io, road an either
side so that when we do tie our roads in we wM be able to ge to the paWW lo-
cation to enter Trank Highway 55•
Mei, Heinen: You•il be able to go through the socese points at the various
townshipt country or trunk highway intersections where, you ono enter onto Trunk i1Sh-
war S5. There are no service roads in the present plan.
Mr. ftmitellis The only service roads that we will be constructing are
those that are shown an the strip layout before you this wrndng.
Mr. Hsinens Car is just east of Hamel an the north and south side, and
another is a short piece at the township road that I beLUrs cars in at the meniteI
of section 22. That am -w ats these two township roads and brringa thaw to a comm
entrancev rather than having two angle intersections onto the highway.
Mr. Marsitellis Are thane any other, questions? Two air?
IV naso is Karl Theist I as with the Plywooth village councils I tiaonld
like to have soma inforastion as to the tier sohaduls in regard to the construction
of this road?
Mr. Marzitellis The beginning as wall as the completion date?
Mr. Thais: Right.
Mr. Mauzitelli: Do you have that i.nfore*tion, hi?. Heinen?
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Mr. Heinen: We have it programmed for 1961 fiscal year; that starts the
first of July, 1960- Its scheduled for letting in fiscal 1961. The grading and the
subbase construction rnd the surfacing are scheduled for 1962.
Mr. Theis: Thank you.
Mr. Marzitelli: Are there any other questions? Are there arW other
questions? If some of you do have a question but don't want to put it on the re-
cord, we would be happy to remain and visit with you concerning those questions and
answer theca to the best of our ability.
If there are no further questions, then I Want to take this opportunity,
speaking on behalf of all of us from the Highway department, to thank you for your
participation in thio wvening•s public hearing.
(25 present at Meeting)
Adjo,u-ned at 8:30 p.m.
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