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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-22-1999Approved Minutes City of Plymouth Planning Commission Meeting September 22, 1999 MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Mike Stulberg, Commissioners Allen Ribbe arrived at 7:07 p.m.), John Stoebner, Kapila Bobra, and Sarah Reinhardt MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioners Bob Stein and Roger Berkowitz STAFF PRESENT: Planning Supervisor Barbara Senness, Planners Kendra Lindahl John Rask, and Shawn Drill, and Clerical Supervisor Denise Hutt 1 Call To Order 2 Public Forum 3 Approval of Agenda MOTION by Chairman Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Bobra to add item #7B November Planning Commission Meeting Dates). Vote. 4 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously. 4 Approval of Minutes MOTION by Commissioner Bobra, seconded by Commissioner Stoebner to approve the September 8, 1999 Planning Commission Minutes. Vote. 4 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously. 5 Consent Agenda MOTION by Commissioner Stoebner, seconded by Commissioner Reinhardt recommending approval of a variance for Archie Seashore for property located at 17505 26th Avenue North. Vote. 4 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously. 6 Public Hearings A AASE WARREN (99081) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Aase Warren for a zoning ordinance text amendment to allow metal roofs on single family homes. Planner Drill gave an overview of the September 15, 1999 staff report. He also presented a material sample of a standing seam roof and a color photograph of a residential installation. Approved Planning Commission Minutes September 22, 1999 Page #155 Commissioner Bobra stated that we should encourage other homeowners to install metal roofs if they last longer and cost less. Planner Drill stated that the purpose of the text amendment is to make metal roofs an option for homeowners, but that they would not necessarily cost less than other roofing materials. Commissioner Reinhardt asked how long a metal roof would last. Planner Drill responded roughly 50 years or more. Commissioner Reinhardt asked what is the earthen material mentioned in the ordinance. Planner Drill stated that earth -covered homes are presently allowed and refers to earth homes. That part of the ordinance would not change as a result of the proposed amendment. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Richard Warren, the husband of the applicant. Mr. Warren presented pictures of their home depicting different views. He stated that the current roof is 14 years old and already in dire need of replacement. He added that they are in the process of upgrading their property, including a new fence and concrete driveway. Mr. Warren stated that the metal roof would not present a risk to any other neighbors. The roof is of very sturdy construction material. He stated that they are willing to pay twice as much to get a high quality and maintenance -free roof. Chairman Stulberg opened and closed the public hearing, as there was no one present to speak on the issue. MOTION by Commissioner Reinhardt, seconded by Commissioner Stoebner recommending approval of an ordinance amending Chapter 21 of the Plymouth City Code to allow metal roofs on single family homes, as well as the Findings of Fact for amending Section 21115 of the Plymouth City Code. Chairman Stulberg noted that he recently visited Quebec City and learned a great deal about of metal roofs. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously. B TSP ONE, INC. (99085) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by TSP One, Inc. for a site plan amendment and conditional use permit amendment for a 4,200 square foot one-story building addition and parking lot expansion for Sunset Hill Elementary School located at 13005 Sunset Trail. Planner Rask gave an overview of the September 15, 1999 staff report. Approved Planning Commission Minutes September 22, 1999 Page #156 Chairman Stulberg asked if a treatment pond would be required at some point if the petitioner would happen to come back again for future requests that are '/z acre at a time. Planner Rask responded that he wasn't sure how the Engineering Department would look at that particular situation, but added that the watershed district is more restrictive. He said that the watershed district reviews applications and submits their comments to staff Planner Rask stated that the existing wetland already serves the function of a pond. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mark Thiede, the petitioner. Mr. Thiede stated that he would be available to answer questions. Commissioner Reinhardt asked if the school has events where there wouldn't be adequate parking available on site. Mr. Thiede replied that the school does have special events, and there may be some occasions where the parking spills over to the street. Chairman Stulberg introduced Joe Matson with Wayzata Public Schools. Mr. Matson said that the elementary school does experience overflow parking for some events. He stated that normally there is adequate parking, but people have a tendency to park along Teakwood Lane because it is closer to the front door. Chairman Stulberg opened the public hearing. Chairman Stulberg introduced Paul Josephson of 145 Teakwood Lane. Mr. Josephson asked what the purpose is of the construction. He asked if there will be any more students or staff added because of the proposed addition, and if so, how many. He asked if there will be additional traffic because of the proposed addition. Mr. Josephson asked if this is the appropriate site to add on for the proposed functions. Mr. Josephson wanted to know when construction would start and be completed, and if any restrictions are involved. Mr. Josephson said that he is concerned with drainage and stated that the existing storm sewer is not adequate. Chairman Stulberg closed the public hearing. In response to questions raised, Mr. Matson stated that the addition is to move the administrative area to the front of the school, and that they are going to add two classrooms to the back of the school on the east side. He said that they will also be doing some interior remodeling. The added space will be used for an existing after school daycare program. He stated that no additional programs are being added. Mr. Matson said that the school district boundaries have not changed, so they don't anticipate any changes in enrollment and no additional staff will be added. The addition will not create more busses or additional traffic. Mr. Thiede commented that the construction is due to commence in May 2000 and be completed by August 2000. He anticipated that construction traffic will come from Sunset Trail. He stated that parking for construction workers would be on site, but that there may be some overlap while school is still in Approved Planning Commission Minutes September 22, 1999 Page #157 session. Chairman Stulberg stated that the construction trucks and equipment should be kept on site and not on residential streets. Mr. Thiede said that he would relay that comment. Planner Rask stated that the noise ordinance limits construction activity from 10:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. Planner Rask stated that the applicant will need to maintain erosion control, and that they are required to clean the street. Planner Rask stated that the drainage issue raised by Mr. Josephson is an unrelated issue to this proposal, but staff will take a look at it before the item goes to City Council. Chairman Stulberg suggested that Mr. Josephson's concerned by relayed to the City Engineer. MOTION by Commissioner Ribbe, seconded by Commissioner Bobra recommending approval of a site plan amendment and conditional use permit amendment for TSP One, Inc. for Sunset Hill Elementary School located at 13005 Sunset Trail. Roll Call Vote. Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously. 7 New Business A PREMIER LINCOLN MERCURY, INC. (99084) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Premier Lincoln Mercury, Inc. for a variance for a 100 -square foot freestanding sign for property located at 3901 Vinewood Lane North. Planner Lindahl gave an overview of the September 13, 1999 staff report. Chairman Stulberg asked if the applicant is requesting a 100 -square foot sign or 97.9 square feet as indicated on their plan. Planner Lindahl replied that the applicant is indeed requesting a 100 square foot sign, the difference is in how the ordinance specifies the calculation. Commissioner Reinhardt asked where the 96 square feet was derived from in the ordinance. Planner Lindahl replied that it is based on the old standard of two 48 -square foot boards. She said that 96 square feet is standard in most communities. Chairman Stulberg stated that it was researched at the time that the ordinance was revised, and it was standard size with the sign manufacturers. Commissioner Reinhardt asked what the reason was for City Council approval of the 38 - foot high pylon sign. Planner Lindahl replied it was approved because of the applicant's location. Approved Planning Commission Minutes September 22, 1999 Page #158 Commissioner Reinhardt asked how the sign permit got issued after it was denied by the City Council. Planner Lindahl replied that she wasn't sure how it happened. Planning Supervisor Senness stated that it was 12 years ago, with a different staff and different precautionary procedures in place. She commented that unfortunately human error does happen. Chairman Stulberg introduced Al Crain, the petitioner. Mr. Crain stated that he wasn't aware that staff had recommended denial of the application and stated that it may be better to table the item since he was not prepared to respond to the staff report. Mr. Crain said that they are not in compliance with Ford Motor Company and they need to get a new sign. He said that Ford Motor Company provides a 100 -square foot sign or a 75 - square foot sign at no cost. He said that a 75 -square foot sign would not be adequate, and that going from their current 155 -square foot sign to a 100 -square foot sign is a big sacrifice. He said that the 75 -square foot sign won't be visible enough or look proper on their tall pole. Commissioner Ribbe wondered if the 100 -square foot sign that is provided by Ford Motor Company could be reduced to 96 square feet. Mr. Crain said that he could check on that, but he would have concerns about that. Commissioner Bobra asked what size signs the other Lincoln Mercury dealerships have. Mr. Crain replied that he would have to find out and come back to the Commission with that information. Chairman Stulberg stated that the applicant may want to find out what size signs their competitors have within the City of Plymouth. Commissioner Reinhardt stated that the applicant should check into what the cost would be for a custom sign. Commissioner Reinhardt asked if the site has any special characteristics that could warrant a larger sign like the other businesses along I-494. Planner Lindahl stated that some variances have been granted to businesses along I-494, based on visibility, existing grades or overpasses. She said that every variance is unique and a lot of the businesses along I-494 do comply with the sign ordinance. Chairman Stulberg noted that a request for a larger sign from Cottonwood Plaza was denied. MOTION by Commissioner Bobra, seconded bey Commissioner Ribbe to table the item at the request of the applicant to the October 13t Planning Commission Meeting or whenever the applicant is prepared to come back. Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously. Approved Planning Commission Minutes September 22, 1999 Page #159 B NOVEMBER MEETING SCHEDULE Chairman Stulberg gave an overview of the September 20, 1999 memo. MOTION by Commissioner Ribbe, seconded by Commissioner Stoebner to cancel the November 24th Planning Commission Meeting. Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously. Commissioner Stoebner asked if there are any other meetings to be canceled. Planning Supervisor Senness said that as the time gets closer, they will look at whether the December 22nd meeting can be canceled. Chairman Stulberg reminded the Commissioners of the joint meeting with the City Council on September 29th. Planning Supervisor Senness stated that there will be a public hearing on the land use element of the Comprehensive Plan at the October 13th meeting. Chairman Stulberg requested that maps be available in the hallway to look at for the proposed changes. MOTION by Commissioner Bobra, seconded by Commissioner Stoebner to adjourn the meeting. Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 8:12 p.m.