HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 02-05-2003Approved Minutes
City of Plymouth
Planning Commission Meeting
February 5, 2003
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chair Peggy Larson, Commissioners Frank Weir, James Holmes,
Kendall Griffith, Jason Rohloff, Nancy Franke -Wilson and Melissa Musliner
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Director Anne Hurlburt, Planning Manager
Barbara Senness, Senior Planner Shawn Drill, Senior Planner Marie Darling, Associate Planner
Josh Doty, City Engineer Ron Quanbeck and Office Support Specialist Ranelle Gifford
1. CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 P.M.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. OATH OF OFFICE — PLANNING COMMISSIONER MELISSA MUSLINER
Director Hurlburt administered the Oath of Office to Melissa Musliner.
4. PUBLIC FORUM
5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Commissioner Griffith, to approve the
February 5, 2003 Planning Commission Agenda. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION approved.
6. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Commissioner Griffith, to approve the January
15, 2003 Planning Commission Minutes. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION approved.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
A. WOLD ARCHITECTS — ROBBINSDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT (2002160)
MOTION by Commissioner Rohloff, seconded by Commissioner Weir, to approve the site plan
amendment for renovations and site improvements including a new chiller, storm sewer
improvement, and two storage room additions and a variance to allow expansion of the existing
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non -conforming loading area at the Armstrong Senior High School located at 10635 -
36th Avenue
North. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously.
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. MOUNT OLIVET LUTHERAN CHURCH (2002163)
Vice Chair Larson introduced the request by Mount Olivet Lutheran Church for a conditional use
permit to operate a daycare at the church located at 12235 Old Rockford Road.
Associate Planner Doty gave an overview of the January 27, 2003 staff report.
Vice Chair Larson asked how this proposed daycare is different from the previous Montessori
school that operated out of the church.
Associate Planner Doty stated this daycare would be run by the church and not a separate entity
and would use a larger portion of the church facility.
Vice Chair Larson introduced Linda Finley, representing Mount Olivet Lutheran Church. Ms.
Finley stated she was in agreement with the staff report and was available for any questions.
Vice Chair Larson opened the public hearing.
Chair Larson introduced James Bjorgan, 12135 Old Rockford Road.
Mr. Bjorgan stated he opposes the request for conditional use permit to operate a daycare out of
the church. He stated the Montessori daycare previously operated from the church was licensed
for 34 children. He stated the new request is for 60 children. He stated there should be
consideration to the adjacent property owners. He stated they have constant lights from the
added traffic and increased activity in the neighborhood. He stated the daycare would increase
the activity to an unacceptable level. He stated he feels this will have a negative affect on the
value of his property.
Vice Chair Larson closed the public hearing.
Associate Planner Doty showed a site plan of the church and parking lot. He stated there were
two entrances into the church. He stated the daycare would be located in the lower level of the
church. Community Development Director Hurlburt asked where the main entrance for the
daycare would be located.
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Ms. Finley stated the main entrance would be in the rear of the church (which is separated from
Mr. Bjorgan's property by the church building). She stated the hours of operation would be from
6:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Commissioner Wilson asked how many children would be allowed in the daycare.
Ms. Finley stated they are proposing 60 children because it is what best utilizes their space at the
church.
Chair Larson asked how many children the original conditional use permit allowed for and if there
is a maximum amount of children.
Ms. Finely stated the maximum is 60 and that number is based on the square footage of the space.
Associate Planner Doty stated the original conditional use permit allowed for 34 children. He
stated one of the conditions of the approving resolution is that they also comply with the
requirements of the State of Minnesota Department of Human Services.
MOTION by Commissioner Rohloff, seconded by Commissioner Weir, to approve the request by
Mount Olivet Lutheran Church for a conditional use permit to operate a daycare at the church
located at 12235 Old Rockford Road. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION approved
unanimously.
B. CITY OF PLYMOUTH (2003001)
Vice Chair Larson introduced the request by the City of Plymouth for a comprehensive plan
amendment to reclassify the segment of Hemlock Lane lying north of County Road 10 from an
arterial roadway to a local street, due to the recent completion of the realigned County Road 61
Northwest Boulevard) in the area.
Senior Planner Drill gave an overview of the January 28, 2003 staff report.
Vice Chair Larson opened and closed the public hearing as no one was present to speak on the
item.
Commissioner Musliner noted there are a few references to this realignment in Chapter 7 that are
not reflected in the resolution, and asked if those references should also be included in the
amendment at this time.
Senior Planner Drill stated that a few references to the roadway are not included in the
amendment, and would continue to provide historical data about the City at the time the
Comprehensive Plan was updated in August of 2000.
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Community Development Director Hurlburt stated the aim was to change the references that
affect future policy decisions. She stated that staff would review all of the references to this
realignment and would include all references having policy implications in the resolution that will
be forwarded to the City Council. She stated the next update to the Comprehensive Plan could be
in a few years.
Commissioner Holmes asked how the general public and Public Safety offices are notified of
roadway changes.
Community Development Director Hurlburt stated that notification happens when there are
physical changes to roadways. She stated the Police Chief and Fire Chief are made aware of the
proposed changes. She stated it is the basic operation to share information with other
departments. City Engineer Quanbeck also confirmed that Public Safety personnel are contacted
regarding roadway projects.
MOTION by Commissioner Holmes, seconded by Commissioner Weir, to approve the request by
the City of Plymouth for a comprehensive plan amendment to reclassify the segment of Hemlock
Lane lying north of County Road 10 from an arterial roadway to a local street, due to the recent
completion of County Road 61 (Northwest Boulevard) in the area. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes.
MOTION approved unanimously.
9. OLD BUSINESS
A. TWIN OAKS REALTY (2002150)
Vice Chair Larson introduced the request by Twin Oaks Realty for a preliminary plat to subdivide
one lot into two lots to be known as "Woodview Heights" for property located at 4525 Zachary
Lane North. This item was continued from the December 18, 2002 Planning Commission
meeting.
Senior Planner Darling gave an overview of the January 28, 2003 staff report.
Commissioner Griffith asked if they could refuse to deed the land and provide a monetary
compensation instead of the trail.
Community Development Director Hurlburt stated it is the City's choice how the park dedication
is provided.
Vice Chair Larson introduce Wayne King, 9919 -
36th Place North.
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Mr. King stated he feels there are some inaccuracies in the staff report and asked Roger Olson to
expand on those issues.
Vice Chair Larson introduced Roger Olson, 4532 Boone Avenue N., New Hope.
Mr. Olson stated he disagrees with the requirementS to remove the drive and install a trail. He
stated staff misrepresented his suggestion for the trail location. He further refuted the following
items from the staff report: 1) He stated the Summary Response from Developers survey is
inaccurate. He stated he spoke with a realtor who said if a trail is next to a home it may not
impact the value of the home, however may make it more difficult to sell the home. He stated
everyone likes trails but none of them want them next to their property. 2) He stated he doesn't
see any kind of economic impact. He stated this is not a walking neighborhood. He stated 80%
of trail users are looking for exercise not a means of getting somewhere. He stated there aren't
any stores within walking distance so again, there is no economic impact. 3) He stated that a
new driveway would need to be constructed because there is no entry door from the rear of the
property. 4) He stated you would have to remove 6 trees in order to put in a driveway. He
stated he would like to see the existing Zachary Lane driveway stay where it is. He stated if the
land was sold as three 1/3 acre lots they would get much more for the land than what was offered
for the trail outlot.
Chair Larson introduced David Bateman, 4525 Arrowood Lane.
Mr. Bateman stated he is mostly in support of the subdivision of the lot. He stated the house is
not designed to open towards Arrowood Lane. He stated the proposed path is another primary
concern he has. He stated he would rather see the path through the existing park area. He stated
they already have very little privacy from their deck. He stated he is surrounded on two sides by
park land, and if the trail is constructed by their property he would be surrounded on 4 of 5 sides
by City property. He stated his only boundary, that wouldn't be City property, would be a small
area on the northwest side of his property. He stated they don't want to have to fence their yards
to prevent the traffic. He stated the addition of this proposed path is going to limit the frontage of
the proposed Lot 2 onto the cul-de-sac. He stated they would have difficulty installing a driveway
because of the limited frontage.
Mr. King asked to speak again and reiterated that he disagrees on the driveway and the proposed
trail issues.
Commissioner Griffith asked if park dedication is required by the City. Community Development
Director Hurlburt answered affirmatively and that staff recommends the park dedication be in the
form of dedication of the trail outlot. Commissioner Musliner asked if they weren't subdividing
this lot, if the City would still pursue the trail. Senior Planner Darling stated the City looks at
every subdivision as an opportunity to add park land or trails. She stated if a land dedication is
not needed, a monetary contribution is required. She stated with this proposed subdivision, there
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was a need for an additional trail connection. Community Development Director Hurlburt stated
if there was not a subdivision request, the City would not be looking to purchase the trail/outlot.
She stated it is the City's approach to wait for the development to occur, then provide the trail.
She stated it is a way to pay as you go to build the park and trail system. Commissioner Musliner
asked how many feet the trail would take from the property. Senior Planner Darling stated the
Park Department would require a 20 -foot trail outlot, although 30 feet is more typical.
Community Development Director Hurlburt asked how wide the new lot would be after the
deduction for the trail outlot if it were located on the south side of Lot 2. Senior Planner Darling
stated the lot is presently 94.73 feet. She stated because of the curve of the street, the outlot
would have slightly less than 20 feet of frontage.
MOTION by Commissioner Rohloff, seconded by Commissioner Griffith, to approve the call to
question. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. Commissioner Musliner voted nay.
MOTION ON THE MAIN by Vice Chair Larson, seconded by Commissioner Holmes, to
approve the request by Twin Oaks Realty for a preliminary plat subject to the conditions to
subdivide one lot into two lots to be known as "Woodview Heights" for property located at 4525
Zachary Lane North. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. Commissioner Musliner voted nay. MOTION
approved.
Commissioner Musliner stated she agrees with the plat and trail recommendation but she indicated
that she did drive by the house and feels the front of the house is off Zachary Lane and it wouldn't
look right with the driveway on the other side of the house.
B ACCEPT PLANNING COMMISSION 2002 ANNUAL REPORT
Community Development Director Hurlburt stated it is typically common to bring forth the work
plan for the following year with the annual report. She stated the Planning Commission's work
program is driven almost entirely by applications received for developments and the priorities the
City Council gives regarding any other planning items they want the Planning Commission to
undertake for the following year. She stated the City Council has not yet held their goals and
priorities session. She stated the session is set for February 18, 2003. She stated the draft work
plan will be available after that date and will be presented to the Planning Commission. She stated
once the draft work plan is approved it will be forwarded, along with the annual report, to the
City Council.
MOTION to accept the Planning Commission 2002 Annual Report. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION
approved unanimously.
C. ELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR
2003.
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MOTION by Commissioner Rohloff, seconded by Commissioner Weir, to nominate Vice Chair
Larson for Planning Commission Chairperson. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION approved unanimously.
MOTION by Commissioner Rohloff, seconded by Commissioner Holmes, to nominate
Commissioner Weir for Planning Commission Vice Chairperson. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION
approved unanimously.
D. APPOINTMENT OF PLANNING COMMISSIONER TO SERVE AS LIAISON
TO THE PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
Commissioner Weir volunteered to serve as liaison to the Park and Recreation Advisory
Committee.
10. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Commissioner Weir, seconded by Commissioner Holmes, to adjourn the meeting.
Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION approved. The meeting adjourned at 8:25 p.m.