HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-19-2012Approved Minutes
City of Plymouth
Planning Commission Meeting
September 19, 2012
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair James Davis, Commissioners Dick Kobussen, Nathan
Robinson, Scott Nelson, Bryan Oakley and Marc Anderson
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Gordon Petrash
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Manager Barb Thomson, Senior Planner Marie Darling, Senior
Planner Joshua Doty, and Office Support Representative Janice Bergstrom
1. CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 P.M.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. PUBLIC FORUM
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Planning Manager Thomson added Item 7.A. Cancel October 3, 2012 Planning Commission
Meeting.
MOTION by Commissioner Kobussen, seconded by Commissioner Robinson, to approve the
amended September 19, 2012 Planning Commission Agenda. Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION
approved.
5. CONSENT AGENDA
A. APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 5, 2012 PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Oakley, seconded by Commissioner Kobussen, to approve the
September 5, 2012 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes. Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION
approved.
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. U.S. HOME CORPORATION DBA LENNAR (2012054)
Chair Davis introduced the request by Lennar for rezoning and preliminary plat for "Kirkwood
II" for 77 single family lots to be located south of 54th Avenue between Dunkirk and Vicksburg
Lanes.
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Senior Planner Darling gave an overview of the staff report. Senior Planner Darling said a letter
from Roy Pasquarette, 5405 Vicksburg Lane, has been added to the public record. She said Mr.
Pasquarette has hired an engineer to prepare a concept plan to see if streets as proposed could be
extended into his property.
Commissioner Anderson asked what the three color components of each wetland indicate.
Senior Planner Darling said the dark green is the wetland, light green is the wetland buffer, and
the buff color is the required wetland buffer setback.
Commissioner Anderson noted there can be landscaping but no building in the setback. He said
some of the homes do not have a lot of backyard but are not encroaching in the setback.
Commissioner Anderson said Phase I creates a large cul-de-sac with 45 homes, and all traffic has
to head out 52nd Avenue. He asked if the fire chief is comfortable with that or do you need to
extend some other access point for this phase.
Senior Planner Darling said this will be looked at closely with the final plat submission. She said
the fire inspector had no initial concerns after reviewing the preliminary plat. The applicant is
required to show adequate hydrant pressures. She added this is a temporary situation and said
some longer dead end cul-de-sacs have been allowed in the past.
Commissioner Kobussen asked about the proposed outlots and where, under the proposed
condition, are the lots to which they would be attached.
Senior Planner Darling discussed the three outlots and said they required the applicant to
consolidate with the adjacent lots so there would be no remnant pieces of property. She said the
applicant then can adjust property lines later. Senior Planner Darling said the one outlot is
proposed for a trail corridor which will connect to the city park and that is permitted to remain.
Commissioner Kobussen asked if the homeowners association or the city is responsible for the
maintenance of the trail through the subdivision.
Senior Planner Darling said the city will have responsibility for the southern portion of the trail
and property in the outlot. She said the property owners adjacent to the two trail segments will
maintain up to the paved surface of the trail; the trail itself will be maintained by the city.
Chair Davis introduced the applicant, Joe Jablonski. Mr. Jablonski thanked staff for an excellent
job working together to present a plan that works well with adjacent properties and ties into
neighborhoods around it. Mr. Jablonski said during Phase I the sewer connection has to come
through to
54th Avenue. He said they will be providing construction easements with the intent
that the sewer has to come back up north. Mr. Jablonski said they will likely have to build that
road and a road will be constructed to the west to provide two ways in and out.
Commissioner Kobussen asked where the fence would be located in relation to the Canadian
Pacific railroad line and trail, and what kind of fence would be installed.
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Mr. Jablonski said the fence runs along the railroad property line with the trail and lots inside.
He said the chain link fence matches the fencing used in Timber Creek Crossing and The Fields
of Nanterre. Mr. Jablonski added there may be a different style of fence on the eastern edge
because the back yard grades are lower than the railroad. He said these lots may include a
privacy -type fence.
Commissioner Anderson asked what is proposed for the shared amenities on Block 1, Lot 7,
Kirkwood.
Mr. Jablonski said they will be proceeding with a pool -type park for the homeowner's
association.
Commissioner Anderson said he understands the sewer line needs to go through the area on
Black Oaks Lane, but grading the road bed and putting the sewer pipe in doesn't necessarily
bring the water main in and a paved surface. Commissioner Anderson asked Mr. Jablonski if
they are committing to building that road or will it be discussed during final plat.
Mr. Jablonski said they are willing to commit to building the road because the actual Phase I
boundary will increase from what is shown. Mr. Jablonski restated it is their intention to build
Phase I and have the road go all the way to 54th Avenue.
Chair Davis opened and closed the public hearing as there was no one to present on the item.
Commissioner Anderson said the applicant is committing to putting Black Oaks Lane through.
He said he is uncomfortable with 45 homes without a second access and would like to add a
condition that the road be added as a second outlet during Phase I.
MOTION by Commissioner Anderson, seconded by Commissioner Kobussen, to approve the
request by Lennar for rezoning and preliminary plat for "Kirkwood II" for 77 single family lots
to be located south of 54th Avenue between Dunkirk and Vicksburg Lanes with the added
condition for a second street connection with Phase I. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION
approved.
B. GARY ANDERSON (2012063)
Chair Davis introduced the request by Gary Anderson for rezoning and preliminary plat for
Homeland" for two single family lots to be located at 4520 Holly Lane.
Senior Planner Doty gave an overview of the staff report.
Commissioner Anderson said historically the owners of the Hollydale Golf Course have opposed
most every development that has occurred, citing storm water issues. He asked if there are any
concerns adding impervious surface adjacent to the Hollydale Golf Course.
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Senior Planner Doty said we received property owner consent for the purchase of land from the
owners of the golf course. He said we have not heard from them and the City has no concerns.
Chair Davis introduced Gary Anderson, 226 Peninsula Road, Medicine Lake.
Commissioner Anderson asked if there are any concerns of golf balls landing in the backyard.
Mr. Anderson said he finds occasional golf balls, but there have been no broken windows. He
said with the direction of green number eight and the new home, it would be quite rare for golf
balls to go that direction, but it is golf.
Commissioner Anderson asked if the golf course has conditioned their purchase acknowledging
that someone could be injured.
Mr. Anderson answered negatively.
Commissioner Kobussen asked the purpose of the four trees to be removed.
Senior Planner Doty said the city required those trees to be slated for removal because they are in
the location of the sewer and water stubs. He said the developer can try to save the trees, but city
staff expects that the four trees will be lost.
Mr. Anderson said he would try to keep as many as possible, as he planted those trees.
Commissioner Anderson asked if boring is a possibility rather than digging a trench and
knocking the trees down.
Senior Planner Doty said that would not be standard.
Commissioner Anderson stated if the trees are worth more to the lot value than the cost of
boring, this option could be considered.
Chair Davis opened and closed the public hearing as there was no one present to speak.
MOTION by Commissioner Kobussen, seconded by Commissioner Robinson, to approve the
request by Gary Anderson for rezoning and preliminary plat for "Homeland" for two single
family lots to be located at 4520 Holly Lane. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION approved
unanimously.
7. NEW BUSINESS
A. CANCEL OCTOBER 3, 2012 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Motion by Chair Davis, with no objection, to cancel the October 3, 2012 planning commission
meeting.
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8. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Chair Davis, with no objection, to adjourn the meeting at 7:44 p.m.